Goodbye IMF?

[dadeechi]

How is terrorism related to cpec?

They are inversely proportional.

 

[艹艹艹]

That's a GREAT analysis. I don't know you did it by heart, but it turned out to be in Pakistan's favor. The message from the above analysis are:

1) For every bad thing, they've replaced it with something great for their economy and the nation. Like Terrorism that killed people and destroyed businesses, is now replaced with the CPEC, which is peaceful opportunity for all the Pakistanis, less than half the Chinese and many other countries. How cool?

2) For F-16's, even thought they depended on them, and India has much more influence, they've blew through that resistance and have multiple options now, from EFT to SU-35 to obviously multiple Chinese platforms.

3) By saying good bye to Saudis, they've shown them they are not a useless toy that the master will call when to use. The Saudis are now officially dealing with the world's top 15th (later to be 10th) economy and the seventh largest and nuke power. So they need to work on that level. Awesome work. Turkey has always worked with Pakistan on equal basis, plus unlike KSA Turkey is much advanced in technology. So what more can one ask for??

4) There is no Goodbye to the US. There is a weapon purchasing issue due to India. But the US and Pakisan will always work together to grow Pakistan's economy. India can't stop it as its business. Your own game from 2 decades ago is at play. Only difference is, the US is the same, India is being replaced by Pakistan to get high growth emerging market profits by US businesses. It doesn't mean the US doesn't have more strategic ties with India, it always will. But the true reality is that India can ONLY stop the military cooperation. It can't give 30-40% returns on investments due to being a mature economy, that emerging economy Pakistan can give. So welcome to Global Economics .

Interesting thing is, India had the US back her up economically. Pakistan has China, some Arab countries to join, Turkey and the US has started to invest large sums into Pakistani stock market. Pakistan requires a lot less investments to provide her citizens a European lifestyle than India. As Pakistan is 5 times smaller in population and size. So India and China will need a LOT more to improve their human index than Pakistan.

5) Pakistan wasn't a part of the NATO, nor is she at odds with it. So that doesn't make sense why there is a good bye to NATO. SCO is a local / Asian specific group so it makes sense to be a part of it due to so much trade being done within Asia. Hope this helps!!



Exactly what I wrong on my analysis above. Good going Pakistan!!



This question is tricky like "Does the God exist and have you seen him"?? These things are subjective. A wife who tells her husband "I love you" for years, one day leaves him. A Son who his Dad did everything for all his life, grows up and goes away to a different State or a Country to pursue his life dreams and leaves the old man behind to die of old age. So when these God made relationships are based on interests, how do you expect a Super Power to not follow them?? That's the system of the nature. You'll pursue your interests no matter what.

Think about it, if the Chinese didn't have interests in Pakistan, would they be pouring so many billions into Pakistan? The interest was there for a while, they just needed a Civilian Business oriented system to support them as they didn't trust the military (and for good reasons, no military has ever grown a country economically, ever). So its all based on country to country interests and its subjective for every country.

WASHINGTON: The Obama administration has opposed the move of the US Senate to impose conditions on the USD 300 million aid to Pakistan, saying restrictions would "unnecessarily complicate" progress in bilateral ties and would be against America's national interest.
Is the US government trustworthy?

 

[That Guy]

3 years ago when I would write about these things, people would call me names. Both Indian and Pakistanis as if I was writing drunk posts. I back then told you that Pakistan will say good bye to the IMF in three years, that Pakistan's foreign reserves would be around $ 30 billions by December 2017 and $ 40 billion by the end of 2014 (these were my conservative estimates per calculations, things are moving faster actually).

I projected Pakistan's defense budget around $ 16-18 billion by 2018. As of today, the official budget is around $ 9 billion and then there are $ 2-3 billion added for special purposes like Zarb-e-Azb, etc. So its already at $ 11-12 billion and it might get to $ 18 by December 2018 (or more).

My assessment also projected that the PSI (ex- KSE) would tripple by 2018. Well its already tripled and has crossed a trillion mark with size and has been the top 2nd / 3rd market in terms of returning the highest profit back!!!!

The power outage will start to get reduced from this December and by the end of next year, the power outages will start to feel like the nightmares of the past.

The US and the West in general are getting ready to pour in billions in investments as Pakistan has proven herself one of the fastest growing market and now officially has an Emerging Market status. So the future is looking good for the Pakistanis.

Irrespective of the military dealings, Pakistani leadership needs to work closely with the US administration to get 15-20 global companies to invest into Pakistan. For the US, a $ 100 billion over a few years is a drop from the Ocean, but for Pakistan, it may be a little Ocean, when coupled with the Chinese investments. This will help Pakistan get to the top 15th and top 10th economy in less than 10 years. Otherwise, as things are, its a 15 year target. So don't forget that capability about the US. Keep up the good work and keep growing the economy like it has been. Pakistan as of today, has many Dubai's in the making (all major cities).

Whoa there, hold yer horses.

Pakistan is nowhere need "top 10th economy in less than 10 years". Most projections put Pakistan barely in the top 25 within 15 years.

Pakistan still has a long way to go, and it seems that NS may be thinking about reversing some policies (all of which helped Pakistan's economy recover) simply to get political support. Tax collection may have increased, but the way it increase is completely and utterly scummy; instead of getting rid of subsidies for corporations, NS just increased increased taxes on the middle class. He also didn't really widen the tax net, he just made went after those that weren't paying taxes within the current tax net. Businesses are still refusing to pay taxes, a majority of the upper class and elites still refuse to pay taxes, and the subsidies that corporations receive, continue to increase.

Mean while, investments have only increased due to close allies wanting support in today's current climate; on the other hand, investment from major markets is leaving the country (US, EU (minus UK), Japan...etc).

Now, we're getting reports that the government, instead of letting the market decide prices, is giving into land owners and setting prices artificially lower, so more land owners can buy them.

Pakistan is STILL a mess, NS only just managed to sweep that mess under the obvious rug.

 

[Zibago]

WASHINGTON: The Obama administration has opposed the move of the US Senate to impose conditions on the USD 300 million aid to Pakistan, saying restrictions would "unnecessarily complicate" progress in bilateral ties and would be against America's national interest.
Is the US government trustworthy?

Its in our interest to have a close relation with US however we must always be prepared for a reversal of US policy be ause of their domestic political scenario this year alone they have flip flopped numerous times i would take their words with a bit of salt from now on

 

[Viper0011.]

Whoa there, hold yer horses.

Pakistan is nowhere need "top 10th economy in less than 10 years". Most projections put Pakistan barely in the top 25 within 15 years..

I stopped reading after this. I don't argue with people who are energy vampires, meaning without having access to any market research, investment and economy house experience, they'll blah stuff out based on their feelings. When you have done some research, you should come back to this post and write me something that would be productive for me to answer.

Till then, you can remain negative like you have been for the past three years about all of my posts, and ignore the progress because your personal hatred and political Pakistani affiliations against the democratic government. I don't have a skin in that game. I write about progress and you have a right to disagree. The conversation ends.

Also, don't forget, the Real Estate reforms, just added over a 3 trillion size of the "dark economy" to Pakistan's real economy. Same with many other initiatives where the businesses and taxes were hidden. In next year's "re-evaluation" of Pakistan's economy, it would be close to $ 1.2 -1.5 trillion as is.

PWC, MS and a couple of other economic houses are listing Pakistan's real estate market to boom by $ 1 trillion. There is a reason why Pakistan got added to the "Emerging Market" status. Its not just given to a country with "potential" like a dead car that everyone knows one day could win a race. Its given to countries who are out perfoemed many growth KPI's and have proven the track!!

 

[艹艹艹]

I stopped reading after this. I don't argue with people who are energy vampires, meaning without having access to any market research, investment and economy house experience, they'll blah stuff out based on their feelings. When you have done some research, you should come back to this post and write me something that would be productive for me to answer. Till then, you can remain negative like you have for the past three years of my post, and ignore the progress because your personal hatred and political Pakistani affiliations against the democratic government. I don't have a skin in that game. I write about progress and you have a right to disagree. The conversation ends.

Also, don't forget, the Real Estate reforms, just added over a 3 trillion size of the "dark economy" to Pakistan's real economy. Same with many other initiatives where the businesses and taxes were hidden. In next year's "re-evaluation" of Pakistan's economy, it would be close to $ 1.2 -1.5 trillion as is.

PWC, MS and a couple of other economic houses are listing Pakistan's real estate market to boom by $ 1 trillion. There is a reason why Pakistan got added to the "Emerging Market" status. Its not just given to a country with "potential" like a dead car that everyone knows one day could win a race. Its given to countries who are out perfoemed many growth KPI's and have proven the track!!

Excuse me, would you please ask your research to represent your government
Is the US government trustworthy?

 

[Skull and Bones]

How is terrorism related to cpec?

Economic prosperity and jobs at ground level will eradicate poverty and the sole reason for the misguided youths to join fringe elements in the society.

 

[LA se Karachi]

I stopped reading after this. I don't argue with people who are energy vampires, meaning without having access to any market research, investment and economy house experience, they'll blah stuff out based on their feelings. When you have done some research, you should come back to this post and write me something that would be productive for me to answer. Till then, you can remain negative like you have for the past three years of my post, and ignore the progress because your personal hatred and political Pakistani affiliations against the democratic government. I don't have a skin in that game. I write about progress and you have a right to disagree. The conversation ends.

Also, don't forget, the Real Estate reforms, just added over a 3 trillion size of the "dark economy" to Pakistan's real economy. Same with many other initiatives where the businesses and taxes were hidden. In next year's "re-evaluation" of Pakistan's economy, it would be close to $ 1.2 -1.5 trillion as is.

PWC, MS and a couple of other economic houses are listing Pakistan's real estate market to boom by $ 1 trillion. There is a reason why Pakistan got added to the "Emerging Market" status. Its not just given to a country with "potential" like a dead car that everyone knows one day could win a race. Its given to countries who are out perfoemed many growth KPI's and have proven the track!!

I don't think he was being too negative. He is right about the size of the economy. PwC currently projects Pakistan's Pakistan's economy to be #22 in 2030, and #15 in 2050.

 

[Viper0011.]

I don't think he was being too negative. He is right about the size of the economy. PwC currently projects Pakistan's Pakistan's economy to be #22 in 2030, and #15 in 2050.

Re-read my post. It'll dawn on you that I said close to, or over a trillion dollar worth of "dark economy" got legalized this year (real estate, and many other sectors). So it takes a year to revise economic adjustments. Add that 1 trillion to projections and Pakistan cut down 5-7 years already by adding dark economy and money to her real economy and the GDP. So per some calculations my organization has done (obviously unofficial as we follow Moodies, S&P, Godlman, etc), it comes out to Pakistan is already at # 23rd-24th. Let's see when the re-evaluations take place next year. These previous also didn't take into consideration the 1 time size growth of the Pakistani market which happened a couple of months ago. So all these play a role in measuring the size of an economy.

On that gentleman, I had wrote all these analysis three years ago and every ONE of them have come out true and above our estimates. But there are some naysayers on here, who do propaganda because they don't like the party running Pakistan, which is none of my businesses. So he's one of them and will always tell you the Sun didn't come out and everything is dark in Pakistan and will remain so. I am used to that crap, on everything, no matter how much progress is visible to the naked eye!! This democratic election was the best thing that happened to Pakistan in the past 70 years, measuring purely on performance!!

 

[LA se Karachi]

Re-read my post. It'll dawn on you that I said close to, or over a trillion dollar worth of "dark economy" got legalized this year (real estate, and many other sectors). So it takes a year to revise economic adjustments. Add that 1 trillion to projections and Pakistan cut down 5-7 years already by adding dark economy and money to her real economy and the GDP. So per some calculations my organization has done (obviously unofficial as we follow Moodies, S&P, Godlman, etc), it comes out to Pakistan is already at # 23rd-24th. Let's see when the re-evaluations take place next year. These previous also didn't take into consideration the 1 time size growth of the Pakistani market which happened a couple of months ago. So all these play a role in measuring the size of an economy.

I doubt that Pakistan's economy is actually double its current size with the "dark economy" included.That would make it almost as large as South Korea.

Regardless, PwC had Pakistan at #25 as of 2015. I don't think it being a spot or two higher will change their projections much:

Source: http://www.pwc.com/jp/en/japan-press-room/press-release/2015/world-in-2050-150227.html

 

[艹艹艹]

I doubt that Pakistan's economy is actually double its current size with the "dark economy" included.That would make it almost as large as South Korea.

Regardless, PwC had Pakistan at #25 as of 2015. I don't think it being a spot or two higher will change their projections much:

Source: http://www.pwc.com/jp/en/japan-press-room/press-release/2015/world-in-2050-150227.html

PPP

 

[LA se Karachi]

PPP

I don't understand. Care to elaborate?

 

[艹艹艹]

I don't understand. Care to elaborate?

China and India have become a developed country in the PPP

 

[LA se Karachi]

China and India have become a developed country in the PPP

No they haven't. This isn't showing per capita PPP. Remember that China and India both have over a billion people. America has only about 320 million.

 

[That Guy]

I stopped reading after this. I don't argue with people who are energy vampires, meaning without having access to any market research, investment and economy house experience, they'll blah stuff out based on their feelings. When you have done some research, you should come back to this post and write me something that would be productive for me to answer.

Till then, you can remain negative like you have been for the past three years about all of my posts, and ignore the progress because your personal hatred and political Pakistani affiliations against the democratic government. I don't have a skin in that game. I write about progress and you have a right to disagree. The conversation ends.

Also, don't forget, the Real Estate reforms, just added over a 3 trillion size of the "dark economy" to Pakistan's real economy. Same with many other initiatives where the businesses and taxes were hidden. In next year's "re-evaluation" of Pakistan's economy, it would be close to $ 1.2 -1.5 trillion as is.

PWC, MS and a couple of other economic houses are listing Pakistan's real estate market to boom by $ 1 trillion. There is a reason why Pakistan got added to the "Emerging Market" status. Its not just given to a country with "potential" like a dead car that everyone knows one day could win a race. Its given to countries who are out perfoemed many growth KPI's and have proven the track!!

Really? You couldn't even be bothered to read my comment? Why the hell would you expect anyone else to read yours then?

When you have done some research, you should come back to this post and write me something that would be productive for me to answer.

No, I think I've had enough of you. If you're going to be a dick, than I won't bother anymore.