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Good Terrorist vs Bad Terrorist as Per Pakistani Liberals/Marxists/Leftists

Analyze how many are from universities, and how many are from religious schools.

Chalen. Ham is bat per to agai k, "university main kam hain, madarson main zada hain".

Ham jab kehte they k PPP/PMLN aur un k goons b terrorist hain to log mante hi nhn they.

Uzair Baloch. MQM. TTP.

None of them studied in madarasa.

And yes I DID mention TTP and please do NOT categorize their training camps as Madarasa. Haq building jahan Quran Pak parhaya jaraha ho woh madarasa nhn ban jati.
 
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Analyze how many are from universities, and how many are from religious schools.

This is the same arguments as how many Muslims are involved in terrorism and how many non-Muslims are involved in terrorism.

It comes down to simply how it is represented in media. A Muslim terrorist is terrorist, a non-Muslim is troubled soul with mental issues. Same deal with madrassas and universities.

Media never bothers to tell us how many terrorists studied in prestigious universities but they make sure to let us know when a madrassa student or graduate does it.
 
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Chalen. Ham is bat per to agai k, "university main kam hain, madarson main zada hain".

Ham jab kehte they k PPP/PMLN aur un k goons b terrorist hain to log mante hi nhn they.

Uzair Baloch. MQM. TTP.

None of them studied in madarasa.

And yes I DID mention TTP and please do NOT categorize their training camps as Madarasa. Haq building jahan Quran Pak parhaya jaraha ho woh madarasa nhn ban jati.

"Don't categorize the Madrassa's that TTP, ISIS, and Al Qaeda members studied in as Madrassa's... there, now there's no terrorist from Madrassa."

Very funny.

This is the same arguments as how many Muslims are involved in terrorism and how many non-Muslims are involved in terrorism.

It comes down to simply how it is represented in media. A Muslim terrorist is terrorist, a non-Muslim is troubled soul with mental issues. Same deal with madrassas and universities.

Media never bothers to tell us how many terrorists studied in prestigious universities but they make sure to let us know when a madrassa student or graduate does it.

There's a very core difference. In a university, one forms free opinion. In a Madrassa, the opinion is ingrained.
 
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"Don't categorize the Madrassa's that TTP, ISIS, and Al Qaeda members studied in as Madrassa's... there, now there's no terrorist from Madrassa."

Dont categorize the Madrassas which are not Madrassas but training camps disguised as a Madrassa.

Fixed that for you.

There's a very core difference. In a university, one forms free opinion. In a Madrassa, the opinion is ingrained.

HAHAHAHAHA.

Bhai. Kahan se latey ho esi baten, k free opinion hi nhn hota :D.

Kabhi Ikhtelaf rai k barey main suna hai apne? 4 Fuqha ki alag alag Fiqh parhi hai? Usool-e-Hadees aur Usool-e-Fiqh parhe hain.

4 Alag Mufassaren ki Tafaseer parhi hain? Jin me sab ki alag rai hoti hai.

Ap ki niyat per shak nhn hai, ap bhale admi hain, lekin jiska ilm nhn hai us k barey me opinion q form kr lete hain ap.
 
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Supporting terrorism is a crime in every country of the world except Pakistan.
Some people tweeted in favour of London bombers and their houses got raided by the British police, got arrested and jailed and were legally banned from all social media.
In Pakistan little chicken literally piss on state's face by tweeting pro terrorism material and nothing happens to them.
 
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Dont categorize the Madrassas which are not Madrassas but training camps disguised as a Madrassa.

Fixed that for you.



HAHAHAHAHA.

Bhai. Kahan se latey ho esi baten, k free opinion hi nhn hota :D.

Kabhi Ikhtelaf rai k barey main suna hai apne? 4 Fuqha ki alag alag Fiqh parhi hai? Usool-e-Hadees aur Usool-e-Fiqh parhe hain.

4 Alag Mufassaren ki Tafaseer parhi hain? Jin me sab ki alag rai hoti hai.

Ap ki niyat per shak nhn hai, ap bhale admi hain, lekin jiska ilm nhn hai us k barey me opinion q form kr lete hain ap.

A Madrassa doesn't have to be a training camp with guns to give a hateful mindset. They ingrain hate for other sects.

And this Ikhtilaf is not present in a single Madrassa, but between different sect Madrassas.
 
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A Madrassa doesn't have to be a training camp with guns to give a hateful mindset. They ingrain hate for other sects.

Wrong. Because all four fiqh are taught in a Madarasas. And All fiqh are about 98% SAME. There simply is no place for hate to be taught when people agree on 98% of the issues and disagree on only about 2% of the issues. And that 2% is backed by Quran and Hadith. There simple is no space and enough content to incite hate.

And this Ikhtilaf is not present in a single Madrassa, but between different sect Madrassas.

Wrong. All different sects are taught about all other different sects. This was done to resolve this specific issue.

Ap us chiz k barey main opinions to nhn banain jinka apko ilm hi nhn hai.
 
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What i find interesting is that nobody says Quad e Azam university is training terrorists.
In 2014, American and Iraqi intelligence analysts said that al-Baghdadi has a doctorate for Islamic studies in Quranic studies from Saddam University in Baghdad.[46][47] According to a biography that circulated on extremist internet forums in July 2013, he obtained a BA, MA, and PhD in Islamic studies from the Islamic University of Baghdad.[41][48][49] Another report says that he earned a doctorate in education from the University of Baghdad.[50]

Bin Laden was raised as a devout Sunni Muslim.[38] From 1968 to 1976, he attended the élite secular Al-Thager Model School.[34][39] He studied economics and business administration[40] at King Abdulaziz University. Some reports suggest he earned a degree in civil engineering in 1979,[41] or a degree in public administration in 1981.[42] bin Laden was an attendant at an English-language course in Oxford, England during 1971. [43] One source described him as "hard working";[44] another said he left university during his third year without completing a college degree.[45] At university, bin Laden's main interest was religion, where he was involved in both "interpreting the Quran and jihad" and charitable work.[46] Other interests included writing poetry;[47] reading, with the works of Field Marshal Bernard Montgomery and Charles de Gaulle said to be among his favorites; black stallions; and association football, in which he enjoyed playing at centre forward and followed the English club Arsenal.[48]


Ayman al-Zawahiri worked in the medical field as a
surgeon. In 1985, al-Zawahiri went to Saudi Arabia on Hajj and stayed to practice medicine in Jeddah for a year.[34] As a reportedly qualified surgeon, when his organization merged with bin Laden's al-Qaeda, he became bin Laden's personal advisor and physician. He had first met bin Laden in Jeddah in 1986.[35] In 1981, Ayman al-Zawahiri traveled to Peshawar, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, Pakistan, where he worked in a Red Crescent hospital treating wounded refugees. There he became friends with Ahmed Khadr, and the two shared a number of conversations about the need for Islamic government and the needs of the Afghan people.[36][37] In 1993, al-Zawahiri traveled to the United States, where he addressed several California mosques under his Abdul Mu'iz pseudonym, relying on his credentials from the Kuwaiti Red Crescent to raise money for Afghan children who had been injured by Soviet land mines—he only raised $2000.[38]

Considering majority of our population isn't a graduate, It seems many highly educated people are terrorists. It's a shame media has tainted Madrassas.
 
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In 2014, American and Iraqi intelligence analysts said that al-Baghdadi has a doctorate for Islamic studies in Quranic studies from Saddam University in Baghdad.[46][47] According to a biography that circulated on extremist internet forums in July 2013, he obtained a BA, MA, and PhD in Islamic studies from the Islamic University of Baghdad.[41][48][49] Another report says that he earned a doctorate in education from the University of Baghdad.[50]

Bin Laden was raised as a devout Sunni Muslim.[38] From 1968 to 1976, he attended the élite secular Al-Thager Model School.[34][39] He studied economics and business administration[40] at King Abdulaziz University. Some reports suggest he earned a degree in civil engineering in 1979,[41] or a degree in public administration in 1981.[42] bin Laden was an attendant at an English-language course in Oxford, England during 1971. [43] One source described him as "hard working";[44] another said he left university during his third year without completing a college degree.[45] At university, bin Laden's main interest was religion, where he was involved in both "interpreting the Quran and jihad" and charitable work.[46] Other interests included writing poetry;[47] reading, with the works of Field Marshal Bernard Montgomery and Charles de Gaulle said to be among his favorites; black stallions; and association football, in which he enjoyed playing at centre forward and followed the English club Arsenal.[48]


Ayman al-Zawahiri worked in the medical field as a
surgeon. In 1985, al-Zawahiri went to Saudi Arabia on Hajj and stayed to practice medicine in Jeddah for a year.[34] As a reportedly qualified surgeon, when his organization merged with bin Laden's al-Qaeda, he became bin Laden's personal advisor and physician. He had first met bin Laden in Jeddah in 1986.[35] In 1981, Ayman al-Zawahiri traveled to Peshawar, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, Pakistan, where he worked in a Red Crescent hospital treating wounded refugees. There he became friends with Ahmed Khadr, and the two shared a number of conversations about the need for Islamic government and the needs of the Afghan people.[36][37] In 1993, al-Zawahiri traveled to the United States, where he addressed several California mosques under his Abdul Mu'iz pseudonym, relying on his credentials from the Kuwaiti Red Crescent to raise money for Afghan children who had been injured by Soviet land mines—he only raised $2000.[38]

Considering majority of our population isn't a graduate, It seems many highly educated people are terrorists. It's a shame media has tainted Madrassas.

Yes, ban Universities.

In 2014, American and Iraqi intelligence analysts said that al-Baghdadi has a doctorate for Islamic studies in Quranic studies from Saddam University in Baghdad.[46][47] According to a biography that circulated on extremist internet forums in July 2013, he obtained a BA, MA, and PhD in Islamic studies from the Islamic University of Baghdad.[41][48][49] Another report says that he earned a doctorate in education from the University of Baghdad.[50]

Bin Laden was raised as a devout Sunni Muslim.[38] From 1968 to 1976, he attended the élite secular Al-Thager Model School.[34][39] He studied economics and business administration[40] at King Abdulaziz University. Some reports suggest he earned a degree in civil engineering in 1979,[41] or a degree in public administration in 1981.[42] bin Laden was an attendant at an English-language course in Oxford, England during 1971. [43] One source described him as "hard working";[44] another said he left university during his third year without completing a college degree.[45] At university, bin Laden's main interest was religion, where he was involved in both "interpreting the Quran and jihad" and charitable work.[46] Other interests included writing poetry;[47] reading, with the works of Field Marshal Bernard Montgomery and Charles de Gaulle said to be among his favorites; black stallions; and association football, in which he enjoyed playing at centre forward and followed the English club Arsenal.[48]


Ayman al-Zawahiri worked in the medical field as a
surgeon. In 1985, al-Zawahiri went to Saudi Arabia on Hajj and stayed to practice medicine in Jeddah for a year.[34] As a reportedly qualified surgeon, when his organization merged with bin Laden's al-Qaeda, he became bin Laden's personal advisor and physician. He had first met bin Laden in Jeddah in 1986.[35] In 1981, Ayman al-Zawahiri traveled to Peshawar, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, Pakistan, where he worked in a Red Crescent hospital treating wounded refugees. There he became friends with Ahmed Khadr, and the two shared a number of conversations about the need for Islamic government and the needs of the Afghan people.[36][37] In 1993, al-Zawahiri traveled to the United States, where he addressed several California mosques under his Abdul Mu'iz pseudonym, relying on his credentials from the Kuwaiti Red Crescent to raise money for Afghan children who had been injured by Soviet land mines—he only raised $2000.[38]

Considering majority of our population isn't a graduate, It seems many highly educated people are terrorists. It's a shame media has tainted Madrassas.

Clearly, he was forced to form an opinion at university since young age.

Wrong. Because all four fiqh are taught in a Madarasas. And All fiqh are about 98% SAME. There simply is no place for hate to be taught when people agree on 98% of the issues and disagree on only about 2% of the issues. And that 2% is backed by Quran and Hadith. There simple is no space and enough content to incite hate.



Wrong. All different sects are taught about all other different sects. This was done to resolve this specific issue.

Ap us chiz k barey main opinions to nhn banain jinka apko ilm hi nhn hai.

Yes, there is no place for hate. But these madrassas teach hate.
I dare you to go take a survey from Madrassa students on questions like should a Muslim if he leaves religion, and do they think all non Muslims are evil, and such questions. Ask the same questions from University students.
 
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Yes, there is no place for hate. But these madrassas teach hate.

Ese general ilzam nhn lagaya keren bhai kisi per, Gunah hai. Kia ap k pass THOS suboot hai? Ager apko judge k samne khara kera kerdia jae aur woh apse kahey k thos suboot la ker do, sirf akhbar ki khabron se kam nhn chalega to kia ap sabit kr sakenge? ALLAH qayamat k din har tohmat ka suboot mangega apse. Aur ap to itne barhey gurooh per ilzam laga rahe hain, kese sabit kerenge.

Dusri bat, common sense istemal keren. Jab Aik shaks ko dikh raha hai k dusre k belief main aur mere belief main koi khas fark nhn hai to woh nafrat kese kerega, itni jaga hi nhn hai nisab main.

I dare you to go take a survey from Madrassa students on questions like should a Muslim if he leaves religion.
Apne kia hai survey? nhn? to phr yakeen kese hai apko?

and do they think all non Muslims are evil, and such questions

Iska jawab barha asaan hai aur Quran aur Hadees main mojood hai. ALLAH ne Quran main farmaya hai (paraphrased):
"Aur Hamne farishton ko hukum dia k woh adam ko sajda keren, to sabne kia siwai iblees k".....
"Aur iblees ne kaha k main azm krta hun k tere bandon ko teri raah se bhat kaonga, siwae un k jo tere khas hain"...
"Aur tamam insan Adam ki aulad hain"...
"Aur ae Iman walon, tum behtreen ummat ho, Insano ki bhalain k lie nikale gai ho"...
"Aur hamne Moosa (A.S) ko hukum dia k firon se narmi se pesh ana, k shayad woh hidayat pa le"...

Mafhoom-e-Hadees
"Gunahgar se nafrat nhn kero, Gunah se nafrat kero".

Is se hamen yeh pata chalta hai k burai shetaniat hai. Aur iska badal, yani neki, Islam hai. Ager ham yeh nazaria apnain to nafrat ka rukh Insanon ki jaga shetan ki taraf hojata hai. Phr Muslim vs Hindus, Muslim vs Jews, Muslim vs christians nhn rehta. Aur yeh sab hamare bhai hain, q k tamam Insan Adam ki aulad hain. Hamen ALLAH ne Hidayat di hai aur Musalman peda kera hai. Is lie hamara maqsad ger-muslimon se nafrat kie bagair unko Islam per lana hai. Ta k woh hidayat pa len aur akhirat main unka anjaam acha ho sake. Aur hamen apni dawat main narmi baratni hai, q k jab ALLAH ne Mossa A.S ko firon se narmi se bat krne ko kaha jo k ALLAH ka sabse nafarman banda tha to koi aam ger muslim firon se zada bura to nhn hosakta.

Bhai. Madarase main Quran aur Hadees parhai jati hai. Aur Nabi S.A.W ki seerat parhai jati hai. Jahan per sirf guns rakh di jain, aur Quran sirf is lie parhaya jae k us se agey pichey reference nikal ker logon ko brainwash ki ja sake usko madarasa nhn kehte.

Ask the same questions from University students.

Main apko b dare de sakta hn, jain university students k pass aur unse yehi sawaal puchen lekin un se kahen k Quran aur Hadees ka hawala de ker jawab den. Muje yakeen hai apka experience acha nhn hga.

Lekin main apko yeh dare nhn dunga. Muje Universities se masla nhn hai.

Apko b Madarase se nhn hona chye.
 
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Communists in china , russia are pro nation but communists in south asia are anti nation (be it pakistan or india) . Why ?
 
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Extreme leftists are literally speaking in favour of anti Pakistan terrorists who have picked guns with the agenda of killing innocents, why are they not being detained and tried in court for supporting terrorism and terrorists is beyond me.

EXFh-pQXQAAFESG
 
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Extreme leftists are literally speaking in favour of anti Pakistan terrorists who have picked guns with the agenda of killing innocents, why are they not being detained and tried in court for supporting terrorism and terrorists is beyond me.

EXFh-pQXQAAFESG

Good will always win. They will be punished for their crimes. InshaALLAH.
 
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