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Good Bye General Bajwa!

well congratulations to the very stoic and non-nervous army. they have successfully managed to alienate those very same people who stood by them during all their trials and tribulations you related above, the middle class.

Job well done. shot oneself in the foot, a feat many can boast of having pulled, but only Pakistani generals can boast having mastered.
People of this country stand firm with the armed forces, that is a bond no politician can influence. If someone joins some political propaganda against the army, by all means please...but soon they would find themselves out of jalsas and marches, and intellectually marooned in the middle of nowhere.
 
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Could be worse…


Run away to London on a lie and then around Europe on another lie
 
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It was James Madison one of the founding fathers of the US who wrote the following (a feeling shared by many of the other founders), a sentiment that I think describes Pakistan's bad luck. These men in the 18th century had more sagacity on affairs of man, politics and power than the contemporary Pakistani political thinker. He wrote:

"Of all the enemies to public liberty war is, perhaps, the most to be dreaded, because it comprises and develops the germ of every other. War is the parent of armies; from these proceed debts and taxes; and armies, and debts, and taxes are the known instruments for bringing the many under the domination of the few.[...he then went on to state]....The same malignant aspect in republicanism may be traced in the inequality of fortunes, and the opportunities of fraud, growing out of a state of war, and in the degeneracy of manners and of morals engendered by both. No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare."

These words should resonate in the minds and hearts of all Pakistanis.

In no way is my argument that armies should not exist. In Pakistan having a standing army is a precursor to our survival given the neighborhood. However as a nation we should understand that this institution though critical must come within a ambit of checks and balances, otherwise this child that the nation nurtures, loves, and protects will one day become the undoing of the very thing it intends to protect.
 
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if army have little brain they will not do it again . also army chief must be accountable not like king . in army they should have some system to keep in check army chief

army should understand its 2022 people and not unaware uneducated liek 1970s and 1980s . this BS dramas must be stopped now
 
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Mulk ka diwalia hogya hai wo socho

That's the thing everyone should be worried about...

Taaja hawaldar didn't do Jack.

It was the airchief and his team of aviators so the credit goes to the vayosayna and their boss i.k.

Ffs

27th feb credit goes to Leadership of PM Imran Khan and ACM Mujahid Anwar and the brilliance of PAF officers.

Bajwa was shitting his pants as rightly told ayaz sadiq and it proved to be trie

It was a team effort, dear...How come General Bajwa was not involved in it? It just doesn't make sense...Army Chief is the boss of Navy and AirForce as well, at least in Pakistan.

I don't think that a guy who served on LoC can be called a coward. No reason to trust politicians as well....

Ye Bhai ka lagta hai DHA me plot phasa hua hai.

No sir...That's not the case :)

"Sarrrr, plzzz give mee DHA Property...."

LMAO

Doing what is right and to do what one thinks and considers is right … two very different things.

He wanted to be popular and ended up being infamous.

Even if he says he had no hand in what has happened and has been happening … he is still responsible, because he could have very easily avoided all this. Bai Naib Qasad nai lagay hoey thay Army Chief thay Pakistan kay.

I understand what you are trying to say here...But a man is a man...whether he is a grade 15 clerk or Army Chief. No one is immune to his surroundings. Mistakes occur and sometimes man can become helpless. We are a complicated country with weak economy.

Positives:
- PAF response to India
- Good team work with PTI to get Pakistan out of FATF
- Did well with handling COVID under leadership of PTI

Negatives:
- Regime Change Operation
- let the corrupts back
- kept on meeting Showbaz and not asking for IK’s permission
- throwing fits at DG ISI’s replacement
- taking the extension
- FIRs on Arshad Sharif and other journalists
- Torturing politicians
- DG ISI and DG ISPR circus of a press conference
- Lack of leadership skills and refused to decouple Military from politics
- Negative infinity pulse ratings of the military under his leadership
- Allegedly corrupt but the verdict is out there (as per Factfocus article)
- No understanding of job role (meeting ambassadors/diplomats, US visit)

What did you have this morning?

The guy overthrew a popular government , assasinated journalists and tried to assasinate an ex pm , stripped people naked , unleashed terror on people and you are saying he was loyal? Worst chief in history.

Also abhinandhan episode credit was to PAF. What had this idiot to do with anything?

hmm...I see lot of exaggeration there. No one is fond of picking someone up unless a call for mutiny in army is raised - shahbaz gill case...

In Fact, General Bajwa said to have decoupled military from politics after refusing to side with IK onwards - (He was being criticized by PDM for supporting Khan)

Corruption has been there in everyone from top to bottom but consider him innocent unless proven guilty...

That's the PTI perspective you put out in your post..
 
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is Bajwa the b$£%£$%£ now unemployed ??? Or he is still employed by the Army?
Depends, If he keeps serving the interests of the colonial empire like a puny little loyal colonial dog he is, then he will be employed for life with no interruptions in perks and benefits...
 
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Ffs

27th feb credit goes to Leadership of PM Imran Khan and ACM Mujahid Anwar and the brilliance of PAF officers.

Bajwa was shitting his pants as rightly told ayaz sadiq and it proved to be trie
Start believing other stuff ayaz Sadiq says as well then..

You folks are a gone case.. . Army chief bajwa had a prominent role in preparedness and proactive role in February 2019.. itsjust protocols.. we don't need an online anti bajwa troll brigade to validate what he did
 
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Both bajwa n faiz should be investigated for corruption.


Lets be honest IK is just anothet chutiya, only thing is that he is stubborn.

I only hope the loud mouth goes after bajwa n gang. They shouldnt be let go so easily.
That's the dilemma...
IK once comes to power will forget the bajwa episode. Like it never existed.. everything with will be goody goody with foj..because everything was political to begin with. ..norani bastard.. Whats his reputation .. what will be IKs position if invesigation finds bajwa made money from stocks or flipping properties and no corruption. So this will never happen.

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So long soldier..we will.miss you sir.
 
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I understand what you are trying to say here...But a man is a man...whether he is a grade 15 clerk or Army Chief. No one is immune to his surroundings. Mistakes occur and sometimes man can become helpless. We are a complicated country with weak economy.


Helpless, makes mistakes, easily gets influenced by his surroundings ….. these all render him not fit for the job.
 
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Army Chief is the boss of Navy and AirForce as well, at least in Pakistan.




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Which country's constition you've been reading so far ? The airforce and navy are separate branches of the armed forces headed by separate chiefs serving in equal paygrades ------ . Team effort my foot if it wasn't for the air and naval force the land force would've been eaten for a breakfast by the enemy. Heck both of these even came up with their own respective dg's for public interaction witnessing army is plagerizing the I and the S in p.r . Stop being an ignorant.

what will be IKs position if invesigation finds bajwa made money from stocks or flipping properties and no corruption

Conflict of interest right there . A govt servant is legally barred from carrying on any private business activities -----.
 
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Bajwa ke supporters lol
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