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God's soldiers: Pakistan army's ideology

Pakistan's counter-insurgency commitments, he insisted, raised an “issue of legitimacy.” “If a section of society,” he wrote, “is not convinced about the moral standing of the task and a general perception on the similar lines also exists among the masses, it seriously erodes the performance of the military, which gets affected by the societal pressures. Military operations inside one's own country make it fundamental that the troops feel just and fair with regards to the operations being undertaken and popular support of the masses exists. Unless it happens, no amount of training, motivation and technology differential will deliver.”

Pakistan's army simply could not, this line of argument suggested, engage in a war against jihadist militia it had fathered without undermining the foundations of its own legitimacy.


Excellent Exposition - this explain so well, the sheepishness, the lack of body count, the lack of pride the Pakistan army experiences in it's battle against the islamist enemy - not just the army but society itself does not know whether it is noble or not to suffer suicide bombings, attacks on the GHQ, attacks on the Mehran naval station, attacks on Shiah, attacks on Ahmadi, attacks on Christians, attacks on doctors, the muder of a leading member of the Ulema for speaking against suicide bombing. the cold blooded mrder of a sitting governor, the assassination of a Christian federal minister - indeed this excellent explanation should allow Pakistanis to consider why it is that they have become divided, such that questions are now raised, "Which islam", "which Shariah", "Which sect", "which sub-sect".

Of course none of this was planned, but when enemy making and enemy seeking is the mission, it ultimately comes back to haunt the very same forces which created and unleashed these forces to begin with.
 
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Let alone AMerican SOilders and UK- when some of them feel guilty for being there

How could one, from Israel could be proud of the IDF who love the idea to hunt and kill innocent Arabs for fun ? (...and I'm not talking about me being the one)

Sir really nice to see such a true words from a Israeli ..... God bless u
 
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The bold part is important - it is a question that needs an answer - The Pakistan army is aware that it has lost control of what were once it's creatures and is trying to regain control -- but by the account of your uncle, look at what the islamista re dishing out.


Pakistan never created the taliban....specially TTP scum bags.... yes we accepted talib govt in Afghanistan coz it was the necessity of time... we didt want another enemy in our north did we?

Emotional outburst will not solve this problem - only killing off the islamist will suffice - some call islamist who behead pakistani soldiers, "our people"- these people are but useful idiots for the islamists -

Try to think logically.. its hard for a man to kill his brother but still the army went ahead and killed the scum some people believed were muslims-Pakistanis.

Some of you may have bought into the idea that insurgencies end with negotiations -- but ask yourself for whom? for far away powers, perhaps - but you have an example in Afghanistan, how long has that stuff been going on?? And what's now left of Afghanistan, is that what you want for Pakistan??


Nobdy wants to negotiate with th taliban... the only options have are either die or surrender... which is whats going on in FATA right now..

The Islamist insurgency will not end and those who tel you that it will, have not told you that it will end with Pakistan losing territory and creating a permanent enemy.


The insurgency is already dying.... losing territory to whom ? boggie man?

So why is a Jihadi army not what pakistan army should be?? Just look at the results, the army has lost so many people because it is no longer the professional force that it used to be

So just cause PA has lost men it means tht PA is not a professional force?what an example.... US army lost more than 50,0000 soldiers in vietnam,NATO lost aroud 25000 in Afghanistan despite spending trillions of $ on sophisticated weapons n vehicles unlike the poor PA with a small bugdet..... which has gained much more than their counterparts.... it must mean tht NATO is a very unproffessional force i hope u know tht 30,000+ terrorists have been sent to hell...


it is now more concerned with matters of confession and sect -

PATHETIC RANT.....I have yet to see any sort of discrimination,tensions between sects..... There is 1 mosque in a unit.... all shia,sunnis,wahabbis go to the same mosque for prayers....

I seriously dnt know where u come up with this shyt.

ultimately the Jihadi army is a losing army, an army whose officers and enlisted are suspect in the eyes of their own generals - indeed it is not far that the idea will resonate that maybe we can do without generals[

How may army officers of PA have been caught or suspected of having links with terrorists? how


Muse reading n preaching what u read in american n british newspapers dnt make u an intellectual .... rather makes u sound more like tht idiot -d-bag american journo Christopher ...


Collecting brownie points frm indians using low quality posts probably makes u proud... anyways.
 
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I think my Pakistani friends will agree that in a vaccuum, an army that is just a fighting force that does not get involved in matters of faith, politics and ideology (let alone think the civilians are an extention of the army) is generally easier to manage and will take orders more efficiently?

And here's I'm not addressing those who are not objective (i.e. army families).
 
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Bhagwan ie Allah doesn't need human sipahi to protect himself. He created all of us and will take care of all of us. So leave this god prophet thing
You talk abt things tht u dnt know anything abt...
Sipah sahaba doesnt mean Gods soldiers...it means army of the companions of Hazarat Muhammad SAW... though u can call it sipah e Allah... kinda cheesy.....

Ad its Taqwa(fear of God,avoiding lust of earthly things etc) Jihad fe sabeelallah(Jihad in the path of God)...




PAKISTAN ZINDABAD
PAK FAUJ PAINDABAD.
 
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