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Why some north European countries are the most non-religious? Care to elaborate? They are developed countries, so they care more about material things, but the US and other European countries are also developed, arguably, they even care more, however the percentage of non-religious population is lower. Thanks!

By the way, China so dark! o_O

In answer to your question about Northern Europe particularly Scandinavia, I would like you go through these material, I believe the answer is somewhere in there. My personal opinion, it may have something to do with late arrival of Christianity in these northern areas of Europe, lets say roughly around 1000 AD:
http://www.stavacademy.co.uk/mimir/religionscandinavia.htm
Northvegr Home page
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/28/us/28beliefs.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

As for China, I think the explanation is quite simple:
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Neo-Confucianism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
"Neo-Confucianism (simplified Chinese: 宋明理学; traditional Chinese: 宋明理學; pinyin: Sòng-Míng Lǐxué often shortened to 理學) is a moral, ethical, and metaphysical Chinese philosophy influenced by Confucianism, and originated with Han Yu and Li Ao (772-841) in the Tang Dynasty, and became prominent during the Song and Ming dynasties.

Neo-Confucianism was an attempt to create a more rationalist and secular form of Confucianism by rejecting superstitious and mystical elements of Daoism and Buddhism that had influenced Confucianism during and after the Han Dynasty.[1] Although the Neo-Confucianists were critical of Daoism and Buddhism,[2] the two did have an influence on the philosophy, and the Neo-Confucianists borrowed terms and concepts from both. However, unlike the Buddhists and Daoists, who saw metaphysics as a catalyst for spiritual development, religious enlightenment, and immortality, the Neo-Confucianists used metaphysics as a guide for developing a rationalist ethical philosophy.[3]"
http://www2.kenyon.edu/Depts/Religion/Fac/Adler/Writings/Confucianism Today.pdf
Confucius Institute - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
China: Confucianism in early 20th-century China
New Confucianism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
A Manifesto for a Re-appraisal of Sinology and Reconstruction of Chinese Culture - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Bottom line, whether it is religious or non-religious, there has to be some kind of unifying ideology and cosmology of belief system that is shared by the population for the proper functioning of a large human society, such as a nation state or group of nation states. I think it is a mistake to cutout the spiritual or mystical elements from any shared belief system, one reason for which communism failed. New Confucianism (the latest PRC state sponsored incarnation of Neo-Confucianism) is only decades old, so only time will tell whether it will survive the test of time, specially because of the absence of mystical/spiritual elements in this system. To compete with Christianity, New Confucianism may have to reintroduce those elements from Daoism and Buddhism, in my opinion.
 
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Bottom line, whether it is religious or non-religious, there has to be some kind of unifying ideology and cosmology of belief system that is shared by the population for the proper functioning of a large human society, such as a nation state or group of nation states.

True, this is ruling ideology, before Northern Song, Daoism and Buddhism still have huge fan base :partay:, after Southern Song, Neo-Confucianism emerged and it became dominated ideology in Ming Dynasty.

Thanks for the material, they are awesome, I always thought most Western people believe Catholicism or Christian in the very first place.
 
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I disagree. Religion is in no more danger as it was a thousand years ago. This mistaken belief that religion is on a decline is a complete myth that needs to be dispelled.

Its not a myth at all....u will see urself what happens in next 50 years provided u live that long:D

North America was incredibly religious too at one point. I didn't say 100% would go non-religious. It was so religious they put "In God We Trust" on our money and "Under God" in our Pledge of Allegiance without much noise. You know what the chances of something like that happening today - ZERO (and it isn't because of the percent of other religions).The same thing in Europe.

Its happening everywhere,,,the more affluent people become in free liberal democracies the more further away from religion they will be.

So yeah we won't see it happening in states like saudi for instance
 
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Its not a myth at all....u will see urself what happens in next 50 years provided u live that long:D



Its happening everywhere,,,the more affluent people become in free liberal democracies the more further away from religion they will be.

So yeah we won't see it happening in states like saudi for instance
People have been calling the demise of religion for decades, so far, I'm still waiting. It's a foolish thing to believe that thousands of years of ingrained beliefs of civilizations will disappear over the course of a few decades or a century. Heck, there are still people who believe in Zeus un-ironically.
 
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People have been calling the demise of religion for decades, so far, I'm still waiting. It's a foolish thing to believe that thousands of years of ingrained beliefs of civilizations will disappear over the course of a few decades or a century. Heck, there are still people who believe in Zeus un-ironically.

Well television and internet are death knell for staunch religious beliefs,,,,the change will be exponential.
So any comparison with previous decades is pointless as conditions were totally different then,,,,there was no freedom of press,hell no press even.

There was no internet,nothing for a person to verify wrong from the right.

Now its a different story though.

Again i am not implementing religion will vanish,no........religion is an important aspect of culture too so it will exist but the level of allegiance people show towards it will decrease drastically.
 
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Well television and internet are death knell for staunch religious beliefs,,,,the change will be exponential.
So any comparison with previous decades is pointless as conditions were totally different then,,,,there was no freedom of press,hell no press even.

There was no internet,nothing for a person to verify wrong from the right.

Now its a different story though.

Again i am not implementing religion will vanish,no........religion is an important aspect of culture too so it will exist but the level of allegiance people show towards it will decrease drastically.
I disagree, in fact, religious organizations are evolving to use the internet. The fact is that right wing organizations, and religious groups are actually on the rise, and not actually decreasing in influence.
 
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Nothing will change in south asia, muslim will remain backward and iliterate (thanks to soudi funded mullahs).even in india their birth rate is almost 2X faster(almost equal to pakistan birth rate) than other communities and literacy rate is way behind than non muslims.numbers never matter in morden world, they already lost their power from hindus and sikhs in past and got their own country pakistan .
 
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As longs as the desire will remain to be "rubber" free , population will keep increasing.

I mean reallyrubber and plastic aree worse thing imaginable pollutes the whole environment

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If there were God, he would have punished Sweden which is 75% atheist/agnostic/non believers...
YET PROSPERING MORE THAN OIC COUNTRIES....
 
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What on earth is hooters? - I might replace one alphabet in there with a K, so it makes sense.
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If there were God, he would have punished Sweden which is 75% atheist/agnostic/non believers...
YET PROSPERING MORE THAN OIC COUNTRIES....

That is the misconception. If we are talking about Islam, The world as whole is a test, and everyone has a free will to do what ever they want, how ever they wanna live. And as per Islam Atheists are better then Hindus, Christians who says there "are Gods". Like DR Zakir Naiq said, Atheist has reached half a way by saying "There is no God" The only remaining Part is "Except Allah".

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Quantity don't matter much, until quality is right.
 
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I see religion as a genetic disorder, you are the way you are because of your parents, no free will. Thats what I always never understand about muslim in particular, always talking about how Islam is the religion of peace and freewill, the only people I know who have chose Islam are white converts, ive never met someone from the middle east who chose it for the simple reason being that they had no choice, I have met people from that region who have left Islam though for that reason.

Free will!!! aslong as your not born to a muslim parent.
 
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Free will!!! aslong as your not born to a muslim parent.

Another misconception. It's not you born as muslim, Whether you die as muslim? So even if you born, has a muslim name, but if you don't have a faith you are not muslim. So, no body can forcefully make you a muslim. It is you Free Will which makes you one.
 
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Atheists are the voice of logic and science. That will never be wiped out. Religions (whether Christianity or Islam) will most likely be wiped out as science can practically explain everything. More people will wake up and get with the 22nd century.


Unless we become immortal you can't take humanity's hopes for an after life.
 
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