Gilgit-Baltistan's liberation

[WAJsal]

Nice read @WAJsal have read about half of it and have bookmarked to read the whole in some free time with a peaceful mind, looks interesting.

Sir give the OP a read first. Followed by post number 85. And then this post you were reading. Thank you. And share your feedback.

Anyone who is reading this, both post's are quite informative post number 85 and 87, they are long but deserve a read. An important part of our history.
regards

 

[Arsalan]

Sir give the OP a read first. Followed by post number 85. And then this post you were reading. Thank you. And share your feedback.

Anyone who is reading this, both post's are quite informative post number 85 and 87, they are long but deserve a read. An important part of our history.
regards

will do!! thanks for bringing this up!

 

[WAJsal]

will do!! thanks for bringing this up!

Tag anyone who i might have missed. This is a important part of our history. Not many know about this. Always good to know more.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

I am talking about Kashmiri Muslim under Dogras it was dogras and Sikhs who freed them from pakhtoun oppression in 1800s they only gathered the courage when their rule was weakened as Dogras started to be recruited by British Indian Army making them quit the service of Princely state.

Maybe they preferred a brutal unstable Islamic Pashtun ruled land rather than be at peace with Hindus. Of course, one could force them, but for that Hindus then would have needed to do things that very few were prepared to do.

 

[Areesh]

Maybe they preferred a brutal unstable Islamic Pashtun ruled land rather than be at peace with Hindus. Of course, one could force them, but for that Hindus then would have needed to do things that very few were prepared to do.

But they are not living under brutal unstable Islamic Pushtun rule as you are saying. So what new lie you are pushing here?

 

[SarthakGanguly]

But they are not living under brutal unstable Islamic Pushtun rule as you are saying. So what new lie you are pushing here?

Read the meaning of 'maybe' 3 times. Out loud. And the date is late seventeenth and eighteenth century.

 

[Areesh]

Read the meaning of 'maybe' 3 times. Out loud. And the date is late seventeenth century.

I know the meaning. But since that "may be" didn't happen so people of GB made a good choice? Right?

 

[SarthakGanguly]

I know the meaning. But since that "may be" didn't happen so people of GB made a good choice? Right?

Yes of course they did. About 120 Indian non Muslims were taken prisoner. Not one returned alive. But that's what happens when you go unprepared.

 

[Areesh]

Yes of course they did. About 120 Indian non Muslims were taken prisoner. Not one returned alive. But that's what happens when you go unprepared.

Worst happened with Muslims in Jammu under Dog-ra raj. Anyways good that you appreciate their timely and wise decision.

 

[Matrixx]

Our kin in Indian occupied Kashmir shall see brighter days too.

How about East Pakistan...when they will see bright days?

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Not possible. The princely states were all corrupt. The Islamists, though inhuman, had a real motivation...to free Muslim lands from non Muslim control. Islamists have similar goals to this day.

Yeah sure.. The massacre of KAshmiris in the valley is well known... Julab oops ghulab singhs forces - wirh support from indian govt Aswell as maharaja of patiala are all well published facts.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

Worst happened with Muslims in Jammu under Dog-ra raj. Anyways good that you appreciate their timely and wise decision.

The Hindus and Sikhs from west Punjab were settled first in Sialkot and then in Jammu. What do you expect to happen in a riot? Hindus take Gandhi's advise and mutely die in Muslim attacks? Sorry, in riots both sides kill. In Jammu it was the other way round, that's all. I am not defending the actions, but explaining them.

 

[Areesh]

The Hindus and Sikhs from west Punjab were settled first in Sialkot and then in Jammu. What do you expect to happen in a riot? Hindus take Gandhi's advise and mutely die in Muslim attacks? Sorry, in riots both sides kill. In Jammu it was the other way round, that's all. I am not defending the actions, but explaining them.

It was not a simple riot. It was a state sponsored genocide. Riots are what happened in Punjab and Bengal. State sponsored massacres are what happened in Jammu. There is a huge difference. It was a deliberate attempt by Dog-ra ruler to change demographics of the Jammu region.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

It was not a simple riot. It was a state sponsored genocide. Riots are what happened in Punjab and Bengal. State sponsored massacres are what happened in Jammu. There is a huge difference.

And still so many survived? Hindus really do a shoddy job when it comes to ethnic cleansing.

 

[Areesh]

And still so many survived? Hindus really do a shoddy job when it comes to ethnic cleansing.

Yup. May be because Dog-ra ruler couldn't get enough time to complete the job with tribals attacking Jammu to help their Muslim bretheren. But still Dog-ra rule did a good job. So don't be sad.

Today, Jammu is a Hindu-majority area. But in 1947, it had a Muslim majority. The communal riots of 1947 fell most heavily on Jammu’s Muslims; lakhs fled into what became Azad Kashmir. That turned Jammu’s Muslim majority into a Hindu majority. In sheer scale, this far exceeded the ethnic cleansing of Pandits five decades later.

A tale of two ethnic cleansings in Kashmir - TOI Blogs

So cheers.