Germany's Last Remaining WW2 Knights Cross Recipients Hold Meeting Amid Threats

[Desert Fox]

These men are living legends from an age long gone. The Germany they fought for was drastically different from the cucked, self hating, self immolating one today. Sadly, these brave men who gave their all for their people had to come together in secret. Apparently, in Germany, the antifa subhumans and the current German regime they serve are eager to attack these 90-something-year-old men.

Now under the boot of the current German regime, these men must live in the shadows like criminals, while all sorts of refuse do everything from rape random women in the street to erecting giant dildos in the middle of Berlin and calling it “art.” Their genuine stories of heroism and hardship are suppressed and censored so the German people will never know that their grandfathers were some of the greatest warriors the world has ever seen. Sadly, they will soon be gone and many will not know their stories.

WWII Knight’s Cross Holders Hold Secret Meeting In Germany​

This weekend I had the remarkable opportunity to attend a very unusual event. The Knight’s Cross association of Germany were meeting in secret to carry out an Act of Remembrance. It was attended by a group of very elderly veterans who are among the most highly decorated men in Hitler’s Third Reich.

It was a secret event because it was feared that people may try to disrupt the event as has happened in the past.

Interviews will be featured on Dan Snow’s History Hit podcast and video of them will soon be posted here.

To win a Knights Cross means you have performed conspicuous gallantry on three separate occasions. You basically win an iron cross second class, then first class. Then a knights cross. So unlike systems like the U.K. or US you get a higher medal not for the particular circumstances of the act of valour but for the number of times it was performed.

Around 7300 knights crosses were given out during WW2. Only 20 of those men are still alive. Apparently four of them were in attendance this weekend. Together with a few Iron Cross winners.

The man who invited me is Gunter Halm. He single handedly repelled a British tank attack in North Africa in 1941. For that and other engagements he was awarded the Knights Cross. He was the youngest recipient in the Wehrmacht at the time. It was hung round his neck by Rommel himself.

Among the men I met here was:
Ludwig Bauer a man credited with 46 tank kills. He fought in Barbarossa. Moscow. Kursk. Normandy. Falaise Gap. Bulge. Defence of the Reich.

Hugo Broch. Luftwaffe ace with 83 confirmed kills. He told me that the me 109 was the best plane of the war.

Ernst Buntgens, horrifically wounded on the eastern front

Karl Konig. Fought in 21 panzer in North Africa against the British, New Zealanders and Americans.

This last man Ernst Bloch, is especially tough. He was shot through the eye and lost pieces of his brain to sniper fire. He was given hours to live by the doctor who saw him.


He’s in his 90’s now.

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[Nilgiri]

Old friend of mine on another forum also had to recently witness the burial of his comrade in arms, a US marine Korean war vet...we are losing these fine warriors and no one's there to replace them even fractionally!

Tribute to all these great men, they may have fought with or against each other during their prime, and lost those close and dear to them in that fight.....but now they can be friends in fiddlers green and look from their final vantage point upon a world that is losing the chivalry and honour day by day that was so important to them.

 

[Desert Fox]

Old friend of mine on another forum also had to recently witness the burial of his comrade in arms, a US marine Korean war vet...we are losing these fine warriors and no one's there to replace them even fractionally!

Tribute to all these great men, they may have fought with or against each other during their prime, and lost those close and dear to them in that fight.....but now they can be friends in fiddlers green and look from their final vantage point upon a world that is losing the chivalry and honour day by day that was so important to them.

Indeed. But what's heartening and what truly differentiates German WW2 vets from other vets of other countries who fought in that war as well as those vets who fought in subsequent wars is that German vets are reviled and hated by their own government and people (who have been indoctrinated to hate themselves and their German identity).

Korean war vets and war vets from every other war are still looked upon with respect. But the German landser who fought in WW2 is considered a war criminal, a beast, and all of those millions of German men who died for their fatherland wearing the uniform of a soldier, their sacrifices are sh!t upon by the current German regime.

No other country in the world paints it's war vets and dead sons like dogs (less than rather).

 

[Nilgiri]

Indeed. But what's heartening and what truly differentiates German WW2 vets from other vets of other countries who fought in that war as well as those vets who fought in subsequent wars is that German vets are reviled and hated by their own government and people (who have been indoctrinated to hate themselves and their German identity).

Korean war vets and war vets from every other war are still looked upon with respect. But the German landser who fought in WW2 is considered a war criminal, a beast, and all of those millions of German men who died for their fatherland wearing the uniform of a soldier, their sacrifices are sh!t upon by the current German regime.

No other country in the world paints it's war vets and dead sons like dogs (less than rather).

Its true and very sad indeed. It is unlikely it will ever change either in our lifetimes at least. For the current German nation its a closed chapter that they were all evil, fully on the side of wrong and thus must be despised when not ignored.

Their former enemies are the ones that honour these German warriors now.

German psyche has been utterly shattered in this regard, compared to say Japan.

But there is at least a minimum of people who study and learn the realities, even within Germany...and preserve and cherish the noble parts of their legacy within them as individuals....and bide their time for society to one day be more forthcoming, open and balanced.

So not all hope is lost, the truth has an uncanny way of being carried by undercurrents till it can become a river once more.

 

[Desert Fox]

Its true and very sad indeed. It is unlikely it will ever change either in our lifetimes at least. For the current German nation its a closed chapter that they were all evil, fully on the side of wrong and thus must be despised when not ignored.

Their former enemies are the ones that honour these German warriors now.

German psyche has been utterly shattered in this regard, compared to say Japan.

But there is at least a minimum of people who study and learn the realities, even within Germany...and preserve and cherish the noble parts of their legacy within them as individuals....and bide their time for society to one day be more forthcoming, open and balanced.

So not all hope is lost, the truth has an uncanny way of being carried by undercurrents till it can become a river once more.

Indeed. Very well put. Truth shall prevail in the end.

 

[Boss Dragun]

Korean war vets and war vets from every other war are still looked upon with respect. But the German landser who fought in WW2 is considered a war criminal, a beast, and all of those millions of German men who died for their fatherland wearing the uniform of a soldier, their sacrifices are sh!t upon by the current German regime.

No other country in the world paints it's war vets and dead sons like dogs (less than rather).

I don't know how they were treated elsewhere, but There exists WWII German soldier grave here. They truly are honored with the Knight Cross.

A very cool gravestone.

 

[Desertfalcon]

I honer them as brave warriors and I have personally met several noble German warriors from WW2. Virtually none of them were Nazis. I met Gen. Adolf Galland and he signed a copy of one of his books for me, for example, but this statement deserves a response...

The Germany they fought for was drastically different from the cucked, self hating, self immolating one today.

Yes, it was different. The one they fought for was run by an evil ideology and led by one of the most vile mass murderers in history. The one they fought for shoved 12 million people into gas chambers. The Germany they fought for invaded all their neighbours and caused one of the bloodiest wars in human history.

I’d rather have today's democratic Germany with freedom, respect for human dignity, and the rule of law, over Hitler's Germany, any day.

 

[Desert Fox]

Virtually none of them were Nazis

But they still fought for that Germany, regardless of what you might think of it. No man dawns a uniform and kills or gets killed for something he "didn't really believe in".

That's like saying about American soldiers who died in Korea and every other war "they didn't really believe in the fight against Communism, they just wanted to dawn the uniform and get killed". Sure, they just went to die because they thought it was cool huh? see how absurd that sounds?

Yes, it was different. The one they fought for was run by an evil ideology and led by one of the most vile mass murderers in history. The one they fought for shoved 12 million people into gas chambers. The Germany they fought for invaded all their neighbours and caused one of the bloodiest wars in human history.

I’d rather have today's democratic Germany with freedom, respect for human dignity, and the rule of law, over Hitler's Germany, any day.

That's your opinion.

One can argue the same that America is ruled by a "vile hateful ideology that mass murdered 90 million Natives". One man's "tyranny" is another mans "freedom" and "democracy" (just ask the Iraqis, Vietnamese, Cambodians, etc...)

The problem about taking the moral high ground is that you yourself live in a glass house

 

[Desertfalcon]

But they still fought for that Germany, regardless of what you might think of it. No man dawns a uniform and kills or gets killed for something he "didn't really believe in".

That's like saying about American soldiers who died in Korea and every other war "they didn't really believe in the fight against Communism, they just wanted to dawn the uniform and get killed". Sure, they just went to die because they thought it was cool huh? see how absurd that sounds?

It would, had I said anything like you are claiming. Ironically, I instead said that they were brave warriors. It's just what they largely believed in, was not Nazism, but Germany. You are arguing that they fought for Nazism. Very unfair to them!

One can argue the same that America is ruled by a "vile hateful ideology that mass murdered 90 million Natives".

One could, if one wanted to prove how ignorant of facts and history they were. Let me guess, like so many others you Googled some sort of fast figures for native people's deaths without realizing that you were posting figures for the entirety of the Americas, and the colonial Americas, at that. (There were scarcely 90 million Natives in all of the Americas when Europeans arrived. Most estimates are between 20-50 million. At best, there was maybe one or two million Natives in all of North America which would include present Canada.) Sorry, but the United States is not responsible for what the English, Spanish, French, and Portuguese empires did.

Secondly, the vast, overwhelming number of Native deaths (approx. 95%) after European arrival in the New World, is due almost entirely to the lack of Native immunities to European diseases which no one really understood nor anyone in any nation, have a cure for. Native diseases (Mostly venereal diseases.), which Europeans had no immunity to, killed millions in Europe as well, but Europe had a much bigger population to survive it.

Third, the wars in which the Untied States engaged Native peoples in were exceedingly small as in a classic example of what was one of the largest of these conflicts and the topic of countless American "westerns" in film, Great Sioux War of 1876-1877. In that "war" less than 300 American soldiers were killed and less than 280 Native peoples were killed. It's three main battles were the Battle of the Rosebud, Little Big Horn, & Slim Buttes. The native warriors won the first two battles decisively, killing Gen. Custer and wiping out his entire force at Little Big Horn. The US Army only winning the last battle.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Sioux_War_of_1876

So when you compare that to the 12 million people shoved into gas chambers and the hundreds of millions of combat deaths that the Nazis are responsible for, you can see how your comparison is, to use your term, absurd.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

While these men were indeed warriors but what they fought for was far from honourable. As @Desertfalcon has pointed out whatever failings the present German Republic has cannot compare to the evil regime in Berlin that was the cause of deaths on a scale hitherto unknown and probably never to be matched.

All I can say is .....

 

[Desert Fox]

was not Nazism, but Germany.

Sure, they didn't fight for "Nazism", they fought for "Germany" because it was Germany that ordered them to go fight in the war, right? Very absurd.

for God's sake, the very Knights Cross they so proudly display on their chests has the Swastika engraved on it, the very symbol of the "vile ideology" you claim they didn't fight for:

One could, if one wanted to prove how ignorant of facts and history they were. .

Looks like you found your own medicine too bitter to swallow . Let me know when you plan on giving America back to its original inhabitants, then you can come back and lecture others about "vile ideologies" all you want, i'll be all ears.

 

[Desert Fox]

cause of deaths on a scale hitherto unknown and probably never to be matched.

Wrong:

"U.S.S.R.: 20 million deaths; China: 65 million deaths; Vietnam: 1 million deaths; North Korea: 2 million deaths; Cambodia: 2 million deaths: Eastern Europe: 1 million deaths; Latin America: 150,000 deaths; Africa: 1.7 million deaths; Afghanistan: 1.5 million deaths; The international Communist movement and Communist parties not in power: about 10,000 deaths… The total approaches 100 million people killed."

Death Toll Under International Communism

This was a very accurate depiction of extra-judicial killings carried out by the allies, kinda like how they napalmed villages in Vietnam and Cambodia and today carry out Drone Strikes and air strikes on civilian populace. No judge no jury, just executioner.

 

[Desertfalcon]

Sure, they didn't fight for "Nazism", they fought for "Germany" because it was Germany that ordered them to go fight in the war, right? Very absurd.

If you want to drag their names and reputations through the Nazi mud, go ahead, but you only demean them and illustrate your ignorance of who they were and are.

Looks like you found your own medicine too bitter to swallow.

...meaning, "Uh oh, this guy has actual facts and history on his side and all I have is sad, tired, anti-American bigotry that is based purely on my ignorance and my butt-hurt emotions!"

 

[Penguin]

The Prussian king Friedrich Wilhelm III established the Iron Cross at the beginning of the German campaign as part of the Napoleonic Wars. The design 13 from March 1813 was a silver-framed cast iron cross

Various iterations from 1813 to 1870

WW1 Iron cross

1914 Grand Cross of the Iron Cross.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Cross

With the outbreak of World War II on 1 September 1939, Adolf Hitler as commander in chief of the German armed forces decreed the renewal of the Iron Cross of 1939. A new grade of the Iron Cross series was introduced, the Knight's Cross of the Iron Cross.

German law prohibits wearing a swastika, so on 26 July 1957 the West German government authorized replacement Knight's Crosses with an Oak Leaf Cluster in place of the swastika, similar to the Iron Crosses of 1813, 1870 and 1914, which could be worn by World War II recipients.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knight's_Cross_of_the_Iron_Cross

Emblem of the Bundeswehr (since 1956)

 

[Desert Fox]

If you want to drag their names and reputations through the Nazi mud, go ahead, but you only demean them and illustrate your ignorance of who they were and are.

Facts hurt.

...meaning, "Uh oh, this guy has actual facts and history on his side and all I have is sad, tired, anti-American bigotry that is based purely on my ignorance and my butt-hurt emotions!"

Anti American? Not by any stretch. I only used your own standards to judge you. That makes me anti-American?