Germany pulls out from Incirlik

[Targon]

No. My point was how will Turkiye rearm itself with non-NATO alternatives?

S-400s is just one part of the puzzle. Fighters, Ships, Subs, Tanks all need to be looked at before it could move away from NATO. This may take a decade to achieve.

With the right upgrades and reinforcement current inventory can do the job until we become mostly independent in defence industry(Hopefully in 2020s). This of course assuming the economical and political environment in Turkey is stable enough to not hinder the work.

 

[OguzSenturk]

Since when Turkey left NATO Why people try to discuss off-topic/unrelated and non-exist things, such as "how Turkey arms itself without NATO" ?

 

[damm1t]

If you accept Germany is part of nato then why should Turkey block Germany politicians visiting troops in Turkey?

İncirlik is not a nato base Turkey have full control on it

 

[StraightShooter]

With the right upgrades and reinforcement current inventory can do the job until we become mostly independent in defence industry(Hopefully in 2020s). This of course assuming the economical and political environment in Turkey is stable enough to not hinder the work.

I know Turkiye makes Ships, Tanks, Choppers and working on TFX fighter program. What about Subs? Does Turkiye make its own subs or use German or French ones? Subs is another area where Russia or China could surely help Turkiye.

Since when Turkey left NATO Why people try to discuss off-topic/unrelated and non-exist things, such as "how Turkey arms itself without NATO" ?

No one is saying Turkiye has left NATO but is planning for that eventuality in future.

 

[alwayspeace]

US ,Russia and UK are playing game to share middle east. But Germany is fighting with Turkey.

 

[Targon]

I know Turkiye makes Ships, Tanks, Choppers and working on TFX fighter program. What about Subs? Does Turkiye make its own subs or use German or French ones? Subs is another area where Russia or China could surely help Turkiye.



No one is saying Turkiye has left NATO but is planning for that eventuality in future.

There are projects for future. Although in my opinion navy is largely for show off and intimidation if you arent a superpower that actively partipicates in overseas operations. Turkey cant reach that level. Our military should be focused on defence and limited abroad intervention in regional scale. Primary focus should be air defence and counter measures againts inner insurgency.

 

[SouI]

Great news!

I know Turkiye makes Ships, Tanks, Choppers and working on TFX fighter program. What about Subs? Does Turkiye make its own subs or use German or French ones? Subs is another area where Russia or China could surely help Turkiye.



No one is saying Turkiye has left NATO but is planning for that eventuality in future.

Yes we are building our own subs..

 

[-SINAN-]

If you accept Germany is part of nato then why should Turkey block Germany politicians visiting troops in Turkey?

Yes main issue are PKK and US support for PYD.

Report me?did u volunteer to be pdf police? [emoji14] Relax bro.

Main issue is Germany providing safe harbor for Coup plotters and giving them citizenship. Turkey wanted those people back but Germany said, "We can't give them back to you because of our laws."

 

[Saithan]

Main issue is Germany providing safe harbor for Coup plotters and giving them citizenship. Turkey wanted those people back but Germany said, "We can't give them back to you because of our laws."

Well, given the backlogs of judicial cases in Turkey I believe the previous NATO attachés did seek assylum because they want to spend their lives with their families and not behind bars in prison waiting to get a "fair" trial.

RTE and AKP disposing of so many judges doesn't make catching up any easier.

 

[Killuminati]

Turkey had to kick them out in first place.

 

[OguzSenturk]

Turkey is planning to leave NATO eventuality in future.

Provide a source. You cant just claim these kind of things without any source and get away with that. This is pdf, a serious forum. Not forums like WAFF where people claim fantasies by themselves every second.

 

[925boy]

With regards to Turkey-NATO/German issue - "You dont divorce your wife because of an argument".
LOL.

 

[Oublious]

With regards to Turkey-NATO/German issue - "You dont divorce your wife because of an argument".
LOL.

same time we can't hit our wife...

 

[That Guy]

Honestly, it doesn't much matter to Turkey, as I honestly don't think the EU is going to be around in the long term...at least not in its current powerful form.

 

[925boy]

Honestly, it doesn't much matter to Turkey, as I honestly don't think the EU is going to be around in the long term...at least not in its current powerful form.

EU wont be around in the long term?what a dream. that wont happen.