germany may sue russia for war crimes / BND says russia is responsible for MH17

[Superboy]

Duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuude. MH17? That old story is dead and buried

 

[Götterdämmerung]

It is the creation of Reinhard Gehlen.
Bundesnachrichtendienst - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Smarty, Germany was at that time still under complete occupation (as if it's very much different today) and you think the US would allow Germany to start an intelligence service by an ex-Nazi without CIA involvement?

www.geheimdienste.org - Bundesnachrichtendienst

Der Bundesnachrichtendienst (BND) ist einer der drei Nachrichtendienste des Bundes und untersteht direkt dem Chef des Bundeskanzleramtes. Er ist hervorgegangen aus der "Organisation Gehlen" (OG) des ehemaligen Wehrmachtgenerals und Leiters der Aufklärungsabteilung "Fremde Heere Ost" Reinhard Gehlen.
Die OG wurde nach dem Krieg unter amerikanischer Federführung gegründet, um insbesondere die Ostblockstaaten und die Sowjetunion aufzuklären, mit finanziert von der amerikanischen CIA.

The OG (organization Gehlen) was founded under the US leadership to investigate the East Bloc states und the Soviet Union, co-financed by the US CIA.

 

[Penguin]

Smarty, Germany was at that time still under complete occupation (as if it's very much different today) and you think the US would allow Germany to start an intelligence service by an ex-Nazi without CIA involvement?

www.geheimdienste.org - Bundesnachrichtendienst

Der Bundesnachrichtendienst (BND) ist einer der drei Nachrichtendienste des Bundes und untersteht direkt dem Chef des Bundeskanzleramtes. Er ist hervorgegangen aus der "Organisation Gehlen" (OG) des ehemaligen Wehrmachtgenerals und Leiters der Aufklärungsabteilung "Fremde Heere Ost" Reinhard Gehlen.
Die OG wurde nach dem Krieg unter amerikanischer Federführung gegründet, um insbesondere die Ostblockstaaten und die Sowjetunion aufzuklären, mit finanziert von der amerikanischen CIA.
The OG (organization Gehlen) was founded under the US leadership to investigate the East Bloc states und the Soviet Union, co-financed by the US CIA.

I don't need a translation, thank you. Notwithstanding the above, I feel you may be underestimating Gehlen and the german intelligence community, which goes back to well before the CIA came into being, and which cannot simply be equated with 'nazi'

Gehlen, for example

was approached by Colonel Hennig von Tresckow, Colonel Claus von Stauffenberg and General Adolf Heusingen to participate in an assassination attempt on Adolf Hitler. His role was minor and when the plot culminated in the failed bomb plot of 20 July 1944, Gehlen's role was covered up and he escaped Hitler's retaliation against the conspirators. THe discouraging accuracy of his reports (labelled defeatist) eventually resulted in his dismissal in April 1945. Realizing early on that Germany would ultimately be defeated, Gehlen made preparations to ensure his own survival after the fall of the 'Reich' . He ordered the microfilming of the holdings of Fremde Heere Ost and had them placed in watertight drums, which he buried in several places in the Austrian Alps. He had fifty cases of archives buried at the Elendsalm in the mountains of Upper Bavaria, planning to sell them after the end of hostilities. On 22 May 1945, Gehlen surrendered to the US Army Counter Intelligence Corps in Bavaria. On 20 September 1945, Gehlen and three close associates were flown to the United States to begin work for them. In July 1946 Gehlen was officially released from American captivity and flown back to Germany, where he began his intelligence work on 6 December 1946 by setting up an organization of former German intelligence officers, called the "South German Industrial Development Organization" to mask its true nature as an undercover operation and spy ring.Gehlen had always been under the sponsorship of US Army G-2 (intelligence), but he eventually succeeded in realizing his ambition of establishing an association with the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), established in 1947.Ten years after the end of World War II, on 1 April 1956, the Gehlen Organization was officially handed over to the government of the Federal Republic of Germany under Chancellor Adenauer . It formed the nucleus of the newly created Bundesnachrichten dienst, which Gehlen led through 1968.

Reinhard Gehlen - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The man was army (Wehrmacht Heer) and quite entrepreneurial in using US services to his own benefit.

Duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuude. MH17? That old story is dead and buried

Not for those left behind without their loved ones. Respectless turd.