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I never said she's insulting Erdogan but do not be disingenuous and try to say that anti-Turkish rhetoric and "standing up to Erdogan" doesn't score brownie points with the German electorate, you will never convince anyone unless they are completely retarded. I don't have the time but there are some pretty harsh articles (especially Spiegel) about Erdo and Turkey, only a fool wouldn't realize this. Tbh I couldn't care less what happens between Turkey and Germany, the world will continue to turn..one way or another. I also find it funny that you claim Turkey matters less than a bag of rice in China, the Chinese will surely disagree with this obnoxiously arrogant turd of a statement in the next 10-15 years when a trade war is likely to erupt and they will look at the Turkish consumer (probably numbering at 90-95 million at that point) to sway the whole shit show in their favor...continue sleeping enveloped in your arrogance and ignorance, the wake up process will not be a kind one and that's a guarantee. Aufwiedersehen freundchen, bleib Gut.

The SPD trys to stand tough against Erdogan and it does not help them a litle bit...they drop every week in the voter ranking.... you realy belive China looks at Turkeys possible 90million lol .... they look at the 510million citizen in Europe...which have much more money...

I say it again you Turks COMPLETELY OVERESTIMATE your importance in this world.... you are just a small/midsize nation knocking at the door to become a industrial nation
 
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The last time you Germans got this arrogant the result was 1945, I just hope next time the Americans don't bother being your sugar daddy. The EUs survival, and by extension Germany's, starts with Turkey, whether you accept it or not. You can't afford to have Turkey as another adversary next to Putins Russia while in the US there is a trend towards isolationism under Trump. (1+1=2)
 
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The last time you Germans got this arrogant the result was 1945, I just hope next time the Americans don't bother being your sugar daddy. The EUs survival, and by extension Germany's, starts with Turkey, whether you accept it or not. You can't afford to have Turkey as another adversary next to Putins Russia while in the US there is a trend towards isolationism under Trump. (1+1=2)

you are brainwashed by your Erdogan Press little kid... we are not arrogant...arrogant is your Erdogan insulting almost everyone... little hint for you to get ur Erdogan washed eyes open... read international press and read what the world thinks about your leader...
 
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you are brainwashed by your Erdogan Press little kid... we are not arrogant...arrogant is your Erdogan insulting almost everyone... little hint for you to get ur Erdogan washed eyes open... read international press and read what the world thinks about your leader...
Oh I read more than you trust me on that one buddy boy. No on washed my brain, I just see facts where they are and call them out. I'd even venture out and say that your brains have been washed so that equate every Turk supporting their country as an Erdogan supporter: funny? Stupid? Or perhaps bigoted ? I leave this up to you. If the German government was genuinely interested in promoting democracy and human rights in Turkey it would open the related chapters of the EU Acquis related to these issues instead of enabling Greek Cyprus(which they allowed into the EU right after the Greek Cypriots rejected a UN brokered peace deal BTW) block the chapters and hide behind this fact as if it's not in their control like a bunch of hypocritical phaggots. You don't deserve the cooperation of Turkish people, you don't deserve the trust of the Turkish people and you don't deserve any sort of goodwil from the Turkish peopl because you shown yourselves to be two faced, dishonest and downright immoral. I hope you suffer whatever it is daddy Putin is cooking up in the Kremlin for the upcoming election cycle in Germany. Viel Gluck
 
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Oh I read more than you trust me on that one buddy boy. No on washed my brain, I just see facts where they are and call them out. I'd even venture out and say that your brains have been washed so that equate every Turk supporting their country as an Erdogan supporter: funny? Stupid? Or perhaps bigoted ? I leave this up to you. If the German government was genuinely interested in promoting democracy and human rights in Turkey it would open the related chapters of the EU Acquis related to these issues instead of enabling Greek Cyprus(which they allowed into the EU right after the Greek Cypriots rejected a UN brokered peace deal BTW) block the chapters and hide behind this fact as if it's not in their control like a bunch of hypocritical phaggots. You don't deserve the cooperation of Turkish people, you don't deserve the trust of the Turkish people and you don't deserve any sort of goodwil from the Turkish peopl because you shown yourselves to be two faced, dishonest and downright immoral. I hope you suffer whatever it is daddy Putin is cooking up in the Kremlin for the upcoming election cycle in Germany. Viel Gluck


How do you see Italian proposal regarding that? Italy says Turkey will never be a member of EU and wants end all discussions regarding that.

I think thats honesty and quite good. All know Turkey can not be a part of any european project. The two people simply dont match. Turkey is oriental and has no european values. Both sides dont understand each other.
 
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Oh, you were being sarcastic. :D
I wouldn't expect humor from a German guy. :)

One is always tried hard...;)

Erdo punched Angie in the balls to win the referandum and know Angie is punching Erdo in the balls to win the election. (1+1=2)
Actually, this refenderum wasn`t her business and she has refused for a long time to participate in this mud battle. So no, Erdogan didn`t punch in her balls and moreover, she doesn`t need a round Turkey bashing to win the next election, she isn`t so desperate.:woot:

The EUs survival, and by extension Germany's, starts with Turkey, whether you accept it or not. You can't afford to have Turkey as another adversary next to Putins Russia while in the US there is a trend towards isolationism under Trump. (1+1=2)
I guess, we would have less problems with Russia without the US, so I don`t see their isolationism as a problem. And if so, our survival would depend on the US and not Turkey.

@Georg
We are such a great nation, how could we only loose our last war, with all this qualities...:what:
Hochmut kommt vor dem Fall...
 
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One is always tried hard...;)


Actually, this refenderum wasn`t her business and she has refused for a long time to participate in this mud battle. So no, Erdogan didn`t punch in her balls and moreover, she doesn`t need a round Turkey bashing to win the next election, she isn`t so desperate.:woot:


I guess, we would have less problems with Russia without the US, so I don`t see their isolationism as a problem. And if so, our survival would depend on the US and not Turkey.

@Georg
We are such a great nation, how could we only loose our last war, with all this qualities...:what:
Hochmut kommt vor dem Fall...
Merkel and CDU not so much...but the SPD for sure..their ratings plunged and now Schulz is running amok shaking every tree that'll drop something useful for him. I look forward to see what the climax of all of this will be. I just hope it's entertaining.

Yeah I'm sure Germany and Russia would get along just fine and dandy, your common history is steeped in brotherly solidarity and love of peace :cheesy:
 
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Yeah I'm sure Germany and Russia would get along just fine and dandy, your common history is steeped in brotherly solidarity and love of peace :cheesy:
I think that Germans fought against French more times than against Russia. It's all in the past. In fact, now Russia and Germany do not have any critical disagreements.
Alliance between Russia and Germany is a nightmare of the Anglo-Saxon world.
 
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Merkel and CDU not so much...but the SPD for sure..their ratings plunged and now Schulz is running amok shaking every tree that'll drop something useful for him. I look forward to see what the climax of all of this will be. I just hope it's entertaining.

Yeah I'm sure Germany and Russia would get along just fine and dandy, your common history is steeped in brotherly solidarity and love of peace :cheesy:

since 1568 Russian and Turkey fought 12 wars...
7 clear victorys for Russia
2 victory sfor Ottoman Empire
all other wars endet in a Treaty with no clear winner

I think that Germans fought against French more times than against Russia. It's all in the past. In fact, now Russia and Germany do not have any critical disagreements.
Alliance between Russia and Germany is a nightmare of the Anglo-Saxon world.

Germany always tryed to establish a good understanding with Russia since ww2...even during the peak of cold war the german foreign ministry always keep up talkings. As a young guy I always thought German politicans are pussys ... the US played always the hard though guys ... but in fact it is much thougher to eliminate prejudice and get in contact with the "enemy" start talking see their point of few and understand their side to find a solution both sides can life with. Just look Putins interview about former German Chancelor Helmut Kohl... Putin was deeply impressed and Kohl changed a lot of viewpoints at Putin and according to Putin he had a clear imigae of european future that Putin liked a lot and hope one day would become reality...
Germany and Russia should try to establish a relaxed partnership and ignore what USA and UK wants... as long as USA is lead by a monkey like Trump they are not worth to be taken seriously ... I like the fact that Germany and the EU will go against the new US sanctions on Russia
 
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since 1568 Russian and Turkey fought 12 wars...
7 clear victorys for Russia
2 victory sfor Ottoman Empire
all other wars endet in a Treaty with no clear winner



Germany always tryed to establish a good understanding with Russia since ww2...even during the peak of cold war the german foreign ministry always keep up talkings. As a young guy I always thought German politicans are pussys ... the US played always the hard though guys ... but in fact it is much thougher to eliminate prejudice and get in contact with the "enemy" start talking see their point of few and understand their side to find a solution both sides can life with. Just look Putins interview about former German Chancelor Helmut Kohl... Putin was deeply impressed and Kohl changed a lot of viewpoints at Putin and according to Putin he had a clear imigae of european future that Putin liked a lot and hope one day would become reality...
Germany and Russia should try to establish a relaxed partnership and ignore what USA and UK wants... as long as USA is lead by a monkey like Trump they are not worth to be taken seriously ... I like the fact that Germany and the EU will go against the new US sanctions on Russia
The EU can't go against as it doesn't have unanimity to go against the US.
 
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I wasn't commenting on Turkish/Russian history but rather German/Russian history. How funny some of you blame it all on the US. Did the US order the Blitzkrieg ?
 
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I wasn't commenting on Turkish/Russian history but rather German/Russian history. How funny some of you blame it all on the US. Did the US order the Blitzkrieg ?

because of one war we should never talk to russia anymore..how about ur Sultan kissing Putins ***? Since 1945 Germany and Russia did not shoot each other... last time Turkey shoot at Russians was how long ago? ;)

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-turkey-jet-idUSKCN0ZD1PR

Erdogan kissing Putins ***.... pretty sure the S-400 deal is the price Turkey has to pay for this... ;)
 
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