Germans who moved to Pakistan

[Hamartia Antidote]

One doesn't simply ask Argentinians with German last name about their past.

So DisneyWorld gets hit (or at least used to) with loud South American teen tour groups. The worst are the Brazilians and Argentinians. A group of 100 will basically lock hands and take over the streets and rides.

So what was hilarious that mixed in with the spanish speaking Argentinians were these very blonde haired "herr Hans und fräulein Helga" types that definitely "shtood owt".

My brother said he'd slip out a few heil salutes as he waited as they walked by chanting and clapping!

 

[Tom-tom]

Guy can't get over some Pakistani girl rejecting him years ago, by his own words.

20,30k German coming to Pakistan contributes to the "messed up" mentality of Pakistanis
2-3 million Bangladeshis moving to Pakistan, made it slummy, dump yard beyond repair


he is one of those POS Bangladeshi nationalists

It might be a small group, how ever it depends on their reach and influence. You do know a few ex - nazis converted to Hinduism and contributed to rss - bjp.. the product of today.

Complain about bengalis it bengali east regiment that held the ground for lahore, or some other province you hold, other wise you would have lost it.

I could say the same about your Pakistanis in Dhaka, but alhamdila they are fairing much better than my bengali brothers In Pakistan. Even though they did not lift a finger in west pak where they reside.

You see you treat ppl with humanity, ppl tend to progress.

Let it roll- you butt hurt paks pulling and twisting info.

 

[VCheng]

That's amazing. I hope one day a book is written on this or their accounts are made public on social media.

Some of their stories are already well-known:

Ruth Pfau - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[ThunderCat]

There were a lot more Germans in Egypt who blended in with the local population much better than in Pakistan .

Probably because Egypt had a slower population growth rate than Pakistan. All this overcrowding, rise in crime, Islamitization is all correlated to the foreigners leaving our country.

 

[VCheng]

probably because Egypt had a slower population growth rate than Pakistan.

It was much closer, had previous experience with Germany, and it was physically easier for them to blend in with the greater similarity of features.

Deutsche Evangelische Oberschule - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Helwan HA-300 - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[ThunderCat]

It was much closer, had previous experience with Germany, and it was physically easier for them to blend in with the greater similarity of features.

Not necessarily. Until the last few decades, Egypt was a relatively livable country. So was Pakistan but Pakistan became third world in the 80s. Egypt somewhat later.

 

[TheSolution]

Guy can't get over some Pakistani girl rejecting him years ago, by his own words.

Being rejected by a Pakistani girl = Pakistanis have a messed up mentality because less than a few thousand Germans migrated to Pakistan in the 1940s

 

[VCheng]

Not necessarily. Until the last few decades, Egypt was a relatively livable country. So was Pakistan but Pakistan became third world in the 80s. Egypt somewhat later.

All of those changes came much later compared to the links I posted above, if you care to read them to get a better idea. Comparing Egypt and Pakistan is not really the topic here IMO, but please feel free to take it up with anyone else should they would wish to do so. I was just referring to the historical fact that many Germans had moved to other countries, including Pakistan, of which I had personal knowledge as I stated earlier in this thread.

 

[ThunderCat]

The older brother of one of my classmates way back in the 70s had a German wife. She was a terrific lady who chose to remain with her mother-in-law even after her husband died tragically. She knew many older Germans in Pakistan. I could tell many personal stories of how Pakistani society was back then that gave her the confidence to stay, but it would hurt too much, compared to today.

Much less people back then. Even remembering my childhood in Karachi in the 90s, I think to myself:
"Jee, this place would be so great to live in if there weren't so many people. No wonder so many foreigners lived in our country back in the day. Excellent geography. Spacious housing & infrastructure. Lower cost of living. Less government interference & bureaucracy."

 

[VCheng]

Much less people back then. Even remembering my childhood in Karachi in the 90s, I think to myself:
"Jee, this place would be so great to live in if there weren't so many people. No wonder so many foreigners lived in our country back in the day. Excellent geography. Spacious housing & infrastructure. Lower cost of living. Less government interference & bureaucracy."

If only you could have seen Jinnah's Pakistan when it existed. People who grew up in Zia's Pakistan that was created after he usurped power have simply no idea of the contrasts that developed later. As I mentioned above, it was so good that my friend's German bhabhi never went back even after her husband died. She had a great life for many years after that loss. It was not just the number of people, but the sea change into a right wing zealotocracy that did the most damage that continues to this day. Eventually she left too after her mother-in-law died, but by then it was a hellish Pakistan created by the mustachioed devil himself. I was lucky enough to catch only a glimpse of the Jinnah's Pakistan as it was killed off step by agonizing step by Gen Zia and his followers.

 

[ThunderCat]

All of those changes came much later compared to the links I posted above, if you care to read them to get a better idea. Comparing Egypt and Pakistan is not really the topic here IMO, but please feel free to take it up with anyone else should they would wish to do so. I was just referring to the historical fact that many Germans had moved to other countries, including Pakistan, of which I had personal knowledge as I stated earlier in this thread.

I'll check it. And yes Egypt probably did have closer location, closer political ties. But language & culture did not make Egypt "easier to blend in" for them. Although Egypt and Pakistan can be compared in many aspects.

Even Egyptians have said this to me without me asking. Hina Malik even told an Egyptian minister when she was flying into Cairo that she felt she was flying into Karachi as the two cities are very similar.

We also both derive from river civilizations. The Nile & the Indus.

 

[ThunderCat]

If only you could have seen Jinnah's Pakistan when it existed. People who grew up in Zia's Pakistan that was created after he usurped power have simply no idea of the contrasts that developed later. It was not just the number of people, but the sea change into a right wing zealotocracy that did the most damage that continues to this day. I was lucky enough to catch only a glimpse of the Jinnah's Pakistan as it was killed off step by agonizing step by Gen Zia and his followers.

I don't disagree at all. I totally agree.

Jinnah's Pakistan was liberal, progressive. My Nana was in the Pakistan Independence Movement and personally knew Jinnah sahab. He was all for freedom of religion, gender equality. Him and his wife lived in a Brahman neighborhood. Their daughters meaning my mom and aunts, grew up playing with Brahman children without any problems.

My grandfather encouraged my Nani to exercise like him and develop more confidence as a woman. He was as liberal you can get. He was not a "Brown Sahab" despite being educated in the West and spoke his native Sindhi fluently. He left me a proud legacy and I will live and die for it.

Zia's Pakistan was backwardness & stupidity. This includes but not restricted to stopping population growth and infact encouraging it.

 

[xyxmt]

In the early years Pakistan was a happening place. In Karachi you will meet lots of people who migrated to Pakistan from around the world, it was common to meet foreigners studying in Pakistani colleges and universities some of them married and stayed here.

 

[airmarshal]

The big question is whether these Germans were Jews or Nazis?

Nazis probably. But most of them would have been migrants trying to escape the hell Europe was then.

 

[Kompromat]

Dr Ruth Pfao was a Pakistani of German descend. She lived and died in Pakistan.