German Navy Commander: We, India and Germany need Russia against China

[Shehryar Ashraf]

2 times got brutally beaten by Russia. And world thinks that Germany will go against Russia? No sir.

once.
they won in the eastern front in ww1.

 

[vi-va]

once.
they won in the eastern front in ww1.

which created Soviet, a nightmare of Germany, I mean militarily.

 

[Shehryar Ashraf]

which created Soviet, a nightmare of Germany, I mean militarily.

and i mean militarily.

Treaty of Brest-Litovsk - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

you need to brush up on your history.

 

[kankan326]

Probably when China is much stonger than USA.

 

[MH.Yang]

once.
they won in the eastern front in ww1.

twice. In 1812, the Germans were the vassal army of the French.

 

[vi-va]

and i mean militarily.

Treaty of Brest-Litovsk - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

you need to brush up on your history.

I knew history well. The retreat of Lenin is strategic, gave Soviet time and space to win civil war. After WW1, Soviet took back every penny with interest.

The creation of Soviet is much stronger than Russian Empire.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1484906720103211021

https://twitter.com/x/status/1484908473229971460

German state media DW:

German navy chief under fire for Putin, Crimea comments​

Ukraine summoned the German ambassador after Germany's navy chief said Crimea was "lost" and Putin "probably" deserved respect. Berlin distanced itself from the remarks.




Vice-admiral Kay-Achim Schönbach said the West could give Vladimir Putin respect
Germany faced a diplomatic incident on Saturday following comments made by Navy chief Kay-Achim Schönbach on Russian President Vladimir Putin and the Ukraine crisis.
During a visit to India, Schönbach gave a talk at the Manohar Parrikar Institute for Defence Studies and Analyses, where he said Putin "probably" deserved respect.
"What he really wants is respect," the vice admiral said, speaking in English in remarks that were posted on a video on YouTube.
"And, my God, giving someone respect is low cost, even no cost. ... It is easy to give him the respect he really demands — and probably also deserves," Schönbach said, calling Russia an old and important country.
Schönbach said Russia's actions in Ukraine needed to be addressed, but added that "the Crimea Peninsula is gone: It will never come back — this is a fact."
The remarks directly contradicted the official view held by the EU and the US. Washington and its allies say that Moscow's 2014 annexation of the peninsula from Ukraine was unacceptable and must be reversed.

Swedish defense minister: 'We must be prepared for all scenarios' when dealing with Russia​

On Saturday, Ukraine's Foreign Ministry said it has summoned German Ambassador Anka Feldhusen to stress "the categorical unacceptability" of Schönbach's comments.

Schönbach apologizes on Twitter​

The navy chief's comments come as Russia has gathered tens of thousand of troops on Ukraine's borders and many worry that an invasion could be in the works. Russia has denied any planned aggression against Ukraine.
The German government made no official statement, although it distanced itself from Schönbach's comments on Saturday.
"The content and choice of words of the statements in no way correspond to the position of the Federal Ministry of Defense," a German Defense Ministry spokesman told public broadcaster ZDF.
Schönbach must now explain himself to his superior, Inspector General Eberhard Zorn, the ministry said. Additionally, Germany's ruling coalition will discuss the navy chief's statements on Monday, ZDF reported.
For his part, Schönbach issued am apology on his Twitter account. "There is no need to quibble: it was clearly a mistake," he tweeted.

"My defense policy remarks during a talk session at a think tank in India reflected my personal opinion in that moment. They in no way reflect the official position of the defense ministry," he wrote.

Ukraine: comments are 'disappointing'​

The Ukrainian Foreign Ministry called on Germany to reject Schönbach's comments regarding Crimea, saying they undermine the efforts to counter Russian aggression.
"Ukraine is grateful to Germany for the support it has already provided since 2014, as well as for the diplomatic efforts to resolve the Russian-Ukrainian armed conflict. But Germany's current statements are disappointing and run counter to that support and effort," Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba said in tweet.

Blinken: 'We will continue to stand with Ukraine'​

"The German partners must stop undermining unity with such words and actions and encouraging (Russian President) Vladimir Putin to launch a new attack on Ukraine," Kuleba added.
Kyiv also highlighted its "deep disappointment" at the German government's position "on the failure to provide defense weapons to Ukraine." The lack of weapons support is another point of contention between the two countries.
On Friday, Germany reportedly went as far as block Estonia from sending its German-made weapons to Ukraine.
Berlin has long argued that it does not support sending weapons to active conflict zones and stressed that such deliveries would hinder negotiations and a peaceful resolution to the crisis.

German navy chief quits after Putin, Crimea gaffes – DW – 01/22/2022

Vice Admiral Kay-Achim Schönbach stepped down as the head of the German navy after publicly saying Crimea was lost to Ukraine and that Vladimir Putin "probably" deserved respect.

www.dw.com

@aziqbal , When I tried to tell you these dynamics, you didn't believe me.

Wasn't Germany the one saying Trump was over-reacting to the China threat?

Why are Poland and Romania part of NATO and members of the EU? Nobody brought them forcly into this union, on the contrary, the Romanian people in particular made extraordinary efforts to join these unions. Today, Russia says that even Bulgaria should leave NATO, or to put it more diplomatically, the entire NATO presence should leave this country. No one asks the opinion of the Bulgarian people? Does anyone question the historical facts that created the conditions for Bulgaria to take these steps?

Why did the Baltic countries want to be a part of the EU and consolidate it with a military alliance? Who forced the Baltic peoples?

Why even independent Sweden now openly supports NATO air operations?

The hegemonic war of the USA and Russia is one side of the coin. Why doesn't anyone want to see the other side?

The morons here somehow think the Russian opinion of what countries like Poland and Romania should do is more important than what the people of those countries want.

 

[Imran Khan]

he resigned . india is curse for him

German navy chief resigns after suggesting Putin 'deserved respect'​

German navy chief resigns after suggesting Putin 'deserved respect' | CNN

The chief of German navy has resigned after suggesting that Crimea would "never come back" to Ukraine, a statement that is in direct contradiction to the stance taken by the German government, the European Union and NATO.

edition.cnn.com

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Actually Europe knows America will use Europe to confront Russia whilst staying at a safe distance. Notice no American boots on the ground in Ukraine

If there were US military boots on the ground in Ukraine that would be a green light excuse for Putin to invade.

 

[northeast]

Wasn't Germany the one saying Trump was over-reacting to the China threat?



The morons here somehow think the Russian opinion of what countries like Poland and Romania should do is more important than what the people of those countries want.

yeah,The people. Did US care about what cuban think and want when cuban missile crisis happened? Do US care about that guantanamo bay is actually belongs to caban,the people?

 

[GHALIB]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1484906720103211021

https://twitter.com/x/status/1484908473229971460

German state media DW:

German navy chief under fire for Putin, Crimea comments​

Ukraine summoned the German ambassador after Germany's navy chief said Crimea was "lost" and Putin "probably" deserved respect. Berlin distanced itself from the remarks.




Vice-admiral Kay-Achim Schönbach said the West could give Vladimir Putin respect
Germany faced a diplomatic incident on Saturday following comments made by Navy chief Kay-Achim Schönbach on Russian President Vladimir Putin and the Ukraine crisis.
During a visit to India, Schönbach gave a talk at the Manohar Parrikar Institute for Defence Studies and Analyses, where he said Putin "probably" deserved respect.
"What he really wants is respect," the vice admiral said, speaking in English in remarks that were posted on a video on YouTube.
"And, my God, giving someone respect is low cost, even no cost. ... It is easy to give him the respect he really demands — and probably also deserves," Schönbach said, calling Russia an old and important country.
Schönbach said Russia's actions in Ukraine needed to be addressed, but added that "the Crimea Peninsula is gone: It will never come back — this is a fact."
The remarks directly contradicted the official view held by the EU and the US. Washington and its allies say that Moscow's 2014 annexation of the peninsula from Ukraine was unacceptable and must be reversed.

Swedish defense minister: 'We must be prepared for all scenarios' when dealing with Russia​

On Saturday, Ukraine's Foreign Ministry said it has summoned German Ambassador Anka Feldhusen to stress "the categorical unacceptability" of Schönbach's comments.

Schönbach apologizes on Twitter​

The navy chief's comments come as Russia has gathered tens of thousand of troops on Ukraine's borders and many worry that an invasion could be in the works. Russia has denied any planned aggression against Ukraine.
The German government made no official statement, although it distanced itself from Schönbach's comments on Saturday.
"The content and choice of words of the statements in no way correspond to the position of the Federal Ministry of Defense," a German Defense Ministry spokesman told public broadcaster ZDF.
Schönbach must now explain himself to his superior, Inspector General Eberhard Zorn, the ministry said. Additionally, Germany's ruling coalition will discuss the navy chief's statements on Monday, ZDF reported.
For his part, Schönbach issued am apology on his Twitter account. "There is no need to quibble: it was clearly a mistake," he tweeted.

"My defense policy remarks during a talk session at a think tank in India reflected my personal opinion in that moment. They in no way reflect the official position of the defense ministry," he wrote.

Ukraine: comments are 'disappointing'​

The Ukrainian Foreign Ministry called on Germany to reject Schönbach's comments regarding Crimea, saying they undermine the efforts to counter Russian aggression.
"Ukraine is grateful to Germany for the support it has already provided since 2014, as well as for the diplomatic efforts to resolve the Russian-Ukrainian armed conflict. But Germany's current statements are disappointing and run counter to that support and effort," Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba said in tweet.

Blinken: 'We will continue to stand with Ukraine'​

"The German partners must stop undermining unity with such words and actions and encouraging (Russian President) Vladimir Putin to launch a new attack on Ukraine," Kuleba added.
Kyiv also highlighted its "deep disappointment" at the German government's position "on the failure to provide defense weapons to Ukraine." The lack of weapons support is another point of contention between the two countries.
On Friday, Germany reportedly went as far as block Estonia from sending its German-made weapons to Ukraine.
Berlin has long argued that it does not support sending weapons to active conflict zones and stressed that such deliveries would hinder negotiations and a peaceful resolution to the crisis.

German navy chief quits after Putin, Crimea gaffes – DW – 01/22/2022

Vice Admiral Kay-Achim Schönbach stepped down as the head of the German navy after publicly saying Crimea was lost to Ukraine and that Vladimir Putin "probably" deserved respect.

www.dw.com

@aziqbal , When I tried to tell you these dynamics, you didn't believe me.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1484906720103211021

https://twitter.com/x/status/1484908473229971460

German state media DW:

German navy chief under fire for Putin, Crimea comments​

Ukraine summoned the German ambassador after Germany's navy chief said Crimea was "lost" and Putin "probably" deserved respect. Berlin distanced itself from the remarks.




Vice-admiral Kay-Achim Schönbach said the West could give Vladimir Putin respect
Germany faced a diplomatic incident on Saturday following comments made by Navy chief Kay-Achim Schönbach on Russian President Vladimir Putin and the Ukraine crisis.
During a visit to India, Schönbach gave a talk at the Manohar Parrikar Institute for Defence Studies and Analyses, where he said Putin "probably" deserved respect.
"What he really wants is respect," the vice admiral said, speaking in English in remarks that were posted on a video on YouTube.
"And, my God, giving someone respect is low cost, even no cost. ... It is easy to give him the respect he really demands — and probably also deserves," Schönbach said, calling Russia an old and important country.
Schönbach said Russia's actions in Ukraine needed to be addressed, but added that "the Crimea Peninsula is gone: It will never come back — this is a fact."
The remarks directly contradicted the official view held by the EU and the US. Washington and its allies say that Moscow's 2014 annexation of the peninsula from Ukraine was unacceptable and must be reversed.

Swedish defense minister: 'We must be prepared for all scenarios' when dealing with Russia​

On Saturday, Ukraine's Foreign Ministry said it has summoned German Ambassador Anka Feldhusen to stress "the categorical unacceptability" of Schönbach's comments.

Schönbach apologizes on Twitter​

The navy chief's comments come as Russia has gathered tens of thousand of troops on Ukraine's borders and many worry that an invasion could be in the works. Russia has denied any planned aggression against Ukraine.
The German government made no official statement, although it distanced itself from Schönbach's comments on Saturday.
"The content and choice of words of the statements in no way correspond to the position of the Federal Ministry of Defense," a German Defense Ministry spokesman told public broadcaster ZDF.
Schönbach must now explain himself to his superior, Inspector General Eberhard Zorn, the ministry said. Additionally, Germany's ruling coalition will discuss the navy chief's statements on Monday, ZDF reported.
For his part, Schönbach issued am apology on his Twitter account. "There is no need to quibble: it was clearly a mistake," he tweeted.

"My defense policy remarks during a talk session at a think tank in India reflected my personal opinion in that moment. They in no way reflect the official position of the defense ministry," he wrote.

Ukraine: comments are 'disappointing'​

The Ukrainian Foreign Ministry called on Germany to reject Schönbach's comments regarding Crimea, saying they undermine the efforts to counter Russian aggression.
"Ukraine is grateful to Germany for the support it has already provided since 2014, as well as for the diplomatic efforts to resolve the Russian-Ukrainian armed conflict. But Germany's current statements are disappointing and run counter to that support and effort," Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba said in tweet.

Blinken: 'We will continue to stand with Ukraine'​

"The German partners must stop undermining unity with such words and actions and encouraging (Russian President) Vladimir Putin to launch a new attack on Ukraine," Kuleba added.
Kyiv also highlighted its "deep disappointment" at the German government's position "on the failure to provide defense weapons to Ukraine." The lack of weapons support is another point of contention between the two countries.
On Friday, Germany reportedly went as far as block Estonia from sending its German-made weapons to Ukraine.
Berlin has long argued that it does not support sending weapons to active conflict zones and stressed that such deliveries would hinder negotiations and a peaceful resolution to the crisis.

German navy chief quits after Putin, Crimea gaffes – DW – 01/22/2022

Vice Admiral Kay-Achim Schönbach stepped down as the head of the German navy after publicly saying Crimea was lost to Ukraine and that Vladimir Putin "probably" deserved respect.

www.dw.com

@aziqbal , When I tried to tell you these dynamics, you didn't believe me.

He is right .

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

yeah,The people. Did US care about what cuban think and want when cuban missile crisis happened?

Nice that you bring that up since Russian forces were stationed in Cuba from the early 1960's right up until 2002.

We didn't stop them.

I guess that shows the difference.

Do US care about that guantanamo bay is actually belongs to caban,the people?

Yeah, we complained when Castro built a "cactus curtain" around the base to keep the Cuban people from jumping the fence and seeking asylum.

 

[northeast]

Nice that you bring that up since Russian forces were stationed in Cuba from the early 1960's right up until 2002.

We didn't stop them.

I guess that shows the difference.

Oh,please,stop pretending that US government care about the people of other countries like cuban or uyghurs.You just don't,all you care is your own interest. US People don't even bother to put on masks to save your own people.

 

[GumNaam]

The Indians have learned their lesson in the hard way. Remember how much drama of QUAD before pandemic? Those warm hugs cooled down fast.

When China cut India fingers in 2020, QUAD did nothing to support India, even blocked vaccine materials export which left India in ICU. India realized it's not nice to be used as cannon fodder, not too late.

The Indians want to milk the Americans and Europeans, vice versa. Nobody want to fight with China, they are all waiting for others to do the dirty and bloody job.

Americans always push others to fight their war, such as WW1 and WW2. The losers are those who jump into the war first.

The 3 wars Americans get involved first are Korean War, Vietnam War and Iraq War, which gave Americans bloody noise, not nice.

indians don't learn lessons. they love going back for more disappointments.

 

[siegecrossbow]

German navy chief quits after Putin, Crimea gaffes – DW – 01/22/2022

Vice Admiral Kay-Achim Schönbach stepped down as the head of the German navy after publicly saying Crimea was lost to Ukraine and that Vladimir Putin "probably" deserved respect.

m.dw.com

He resigned

What was he thinking discussing this in India of all place? They can’t keep a secret for more than 12 hours.