German Chancellor Merkel urges European countries to cooperate with China

[Globenim]

To be exact. The real collapse of Sino German cooperation was due to China declaring war on Germany in 1941.

Ah yes. It wasnt because of Germanies ally Japan invading China in hindsight of Germany, Germany pulling back all open cooperation with China until 1938 on demand of Japan and Germany formally recognizing an illegitimate puppet regime installed by foreign Japanese rapist in 1941 already 4 years after the rape of Nangking and stopped recognizing the KMT as Chinas governing force, that broke down relations with Germany. After all they still finished trade deals necessary for Germany starving for Chinese raw materials until 1941 in a display of pure kindness towards China. It was in fact when the KMT joined hands with opposition to Japan in response to the Axis betrayal and invasion of China 5 months after Germany formally broke down relations with the KMT that actually broke down the relations, so it was actually all Chinas doing and fault.

Damn Viets and their history revisionism.

 

[Suika]

Ah yes. It wasnt because of Germanies ally Japan invading China in hindsight of Germany, Germany pulling back all open cooperation with China until 1938 on demand of Japan and Germany formally recognizing an illegitimate puppet regime installed by foreign Japanese rapist in 1941 already 4 years after the rape of Nangking and stopped recognizing the KMT as Chinas governing force, that broke down relations with Germany. After all they still finished trade deals necessary for Germany starving for Chinese raw materials until 1941 in a display of pure kindness towards China. It was in fact when the KMT joined hands with opposition to Japan in response to the Axis betrayal and invasion of China 5 months after Germany formally broke down relations with the KMT that actually broke down the relations, so it was actually all Chinas doing and fault.

Damn Viets and their history revisionism.

As if Mao was so good. I really think a what-if that today's WW2 victors don't want consider is what-if Wang and Japan had won. Mao sets a low bar to exceed.

 

[Viet]

Ah yes. It wasnt because of Germanies ally Japan invading China in hindsight of Germany, Germany pulling back all open cooperation with China until 1938 on demand of Japan and Germany formally recognizing an illegitimate puppet regime installed by foreign Japanese rapist in 1941 already 4 years after the rape of Nangking and stopped recognizing the KMT as Chinas governing force, that broke down relations with Germany. After all they still finished trade deals necessary for Germany starving for Chinese raw materials until 1941 in a display of pure kindness towards China. It was in fact when the KMT joined hands with opposition to Japan in response to the Axis betrayal and invasion of China 5 months after Germany formally broke down relations with the KMT that actually broke down the relations, so it was actually all Chinas doing and fault.

Damn Viets and their history revisionism.

Whatever
I am honest to you.
Hardly anyone in Vietnam complains of Japan actions in WWII.
Japan keeps our nemesis at bay.
Not a bad thing.

 

[fitpOsitive]

Yes and No. Not 10 percent.
You underestimate japan fighting capability.
I am pretty sure Japan Navy can hold on 30 percent or more of chinese naval assets. That will ease our northern and eastern flanks.
Nonsense
Tell me one thing Europe can’t make!

Advance processors for mobile and other industry use.

 

[IblinI]

Whatever
I am honest to you.
Hardly anyone in Vietnam complains of Japan actions in WWII.
Japan keeps our nemesis at bay.
Not a bad thing.

At least you are not a hypocrite,not much people pity the weakling, that is the human's nature,thus to prevent the history repeating again, we are building EMALS carrier and H20 stealth bomber.

 

[Song Hong]

To see who has the better army, China or Japan, we do an indirect comparison. Who performed better against Marine 1st Div, the best marine infantry unit?

Japan
Guadalcanal Campaign
Okinawa

China
Chosin Reservoir

As if Mao was so good. I really think a what-if that today's WW2 victors don't want consider is what-if Wang and Japan had won. Mao sets a low bar to exceed.

 

[Viet]

At least you are not a hypocrite,not much people pity the weakling, that is the human's nature,thus to prevent the history repeating again, we are building EMALS carrier and H20 stealth bomber.

Yes and we keep inviting foreign powers to the party. More people more fun.
That will give us time to own military buildup.
Win win.

 

[IblinI]

Yes and we keep inviting foreign powers to the party. More people more fun.
That will give us time to own military buildup.
Win win.

what are you going to build to even think of countering a stealth bomber equiped with stealth datalink heavy cruise missile or a hypersonic glide antiship, ground ballistic missile?

 

[LeGenD]

Deng is a war criminal.

Do not issue such kind of remark in isolation. It should be in context. It turns into flamebaiting otherwise.

Deng bowed down to white master and begged for support, u can not change the history.

Stop quoting me.tks

Please avoid flamebaiting. Make a better argument.

 

[Viet]

Do not issue such kind of remark in isolation. It should be in context. It turns into flamebaiting otherwise.

Deng ordered the PLA to implement the policy of scorched earth. Multiple cities were razed to the ground. They killed until the last animal. They poisoned until the last water well.
That constituted a war crime.

 

[LeGenD]

Deng ordered the PLA to implement the policy of scorched earth. Multiple cities were razed to the ground.
That constituted a war crime.

Fair.

Now you have provided much needed "context." Making a statement count.

Flamebaiting shall be avoided. Now topic should not be derailed.

 

[kankan326]

Deng ordered the PLA to implement the policy of scorched earth. Multiple cities were razed to the ground. They killed until the last animal. They poisoned until the last water well.
That constituted a war crime.

Back to 1979, almost all Vietnamese were soldiers without wearing uniform. And almost all factories in north Vietnamese were built by Chinese.

 

[Viet]

Back to 1979, almost all Vietnamese were soldiers without wearing uniform. And almost all factories in north Vietnamese were built by Chinese.

Very lame excuse of a war criminal

 

[IblinI]

Deng ordered the PLA to implement the policy of scorched earth. Multiple cities were razed to the ground. They killed until the last animal. They poisoned until the last water well.
That constituted a war crime.

is that how they taught you in the school?
multiple cities razed and killed until the last animal but the total causulties remains under a hundred thousand? is it because Vietnam was a no man land, dude, this is a defence forum, cut the emotional speech.

 

[Daniel808]

Deng ordered the PLA to implement the policy of scorched earth. Multiple cities were razed to the ground. They killed until the last animal. They poisoned until the last water well.
That constituted a war crime.

Your Ngo Dinh Diem is a much Worse War Criminal.

He brutally killing hundred of thousands of their own south vietnamese brothers and countrymen


R.J. Rummel estimated that 39,000 were killed by South Vietnam during the Diem-era in democide from a range of between 16,000 and 167,000 South Vietnamese civilians; for 1964 to 1975, Rummel estimated a total of 50,000 killed in democide, from a range of between 42,000 and 128,000. Thus, the total for 1954 to 1975 is 81,000, from a range of between 57,000 and 284,000 deaths caused by South Vietnam.[40]: Benjamin Valentino attributes possibly 110,000–310,000 "counter-guerrilla mass killings" of non-combatants to U.S. and South Vietnamese forces during the war.[253] An estimated 26,000 to 41,000 civilian members of the PRG/Viet Cong termed "VC Infrastructure" were killed during the Phoenix Program, by US and South Vietnamese intelligence and security, with an unknown number being innocent civilians.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_War