German Bakery bomber arrested!

[Areesh]

Given a chance to ask every reputable intelligence agency in the world, they would agree. bury your head in the sand... or be well read about it.

And those "reputable" intelligence agencies never intervened or supported any militancy in any country in any part of the world?

All these reputable agencies have a very good reputation of supporting militancy and insurgencies in different parts of the world.

 

[SMC]

"Reputable Intelligence agency" is an oxymoron. There's no proof of ISI supporting LeT besides Indian paranoia and conspiracy theories.

 

[Kinetic]

It is always easy to write two phrases and than claiming them to be "truth".

As I said this thread was incomplete without those two phrases with Indians posting on the thread.

Yeah the two phrases hurts thats why find a way to an excuse.

 

[SMC]

It's not the truth, it's what you believe is the truth. The truth suggests something that is well established - which in this case is not true.

 

[Areesh]

Yeah the two phrases hurts thats why find a way to an excuse.

What excuse? The phrases were BS and we treated them as a BS should be treated. Simple.

 

[Skywalker]

Indian Mujahideen is a shadow outfit of the banned SIMI and Pakistan-based Lashker-e-Taiba and is directly controlled by ISI.[/QUO

Have you checked your birth certificate, does it include ISI against your Father's name.

 

[Kinetic]

"Reputable Intelligence agency" is an oxymoron.There's no proof of ISI supporting LeT besides Indian paranoia and conspiracy theories.

lol You are accusing India for that what you do in real! Even there are conspiracy theories against India for flood, match fixing and flag bearing etc!

David Coleman Headley revealed many new insights and there are many proofs if you just search the net. But I know you will never accept it. Interpol even issued red corner notices.

 

[Kinetic]

What excuse? The phrases were BS and we treated them as a BS should be treated. Simple.

Other than you, for no one it is a BS!! Are you against the remaining world? The 26/11 investigation have been done in cooperation with many agencies around the world. Recently Spain detained some Pakistanis in relation to 26/11. US allowed questioning of Headley in front of FBI and his lawyer those revealed in the newspapers.

The truth is no one agree with your view of BS! Thats another truth!

 

[JayAtl]

And those "reputable" intelligence agencies never intervened or supported any militancy in any country in any part of the world?

All these reputable agencies have a very good reputation of supporting militancy and insurgencies in different parts of the world.

i would wholeheartedly agree with you on your opinion on the past indiscretions of these reputable agencies but that fact alone does absolve the fact that the ISI is known to covertly ( rogue agents as they maybe) to assist many terrorist outfits. anything else is burying your head in the sand. Your own politicians have voiced the same concern.

 

[SMC]

lol You are accusing India for that what you do in real! Even there are conspiracy theories against India for flood, match fixing and flag bearing etc!

Here's the beauty of it. (No I don't believe in the conspiracy theories you listed) You claim that I accuse India without proof. But the beauty of this is that even though you accuse me of doing this, you do it too! That's how I can turn it around on you. You may call me a hypocrite, but you are one too! It will be hypocritical to call someone a hypocrite if you a hypocrite yourself.

David Coleman Headley revealed many new insights and there are many proofs if you just search the net. But I know you will never accept it. Interpol even issued red corner notices.

This has been discussed extensively by Agnostic Muslim. There's not really much to this.

Plus then we also have Indians accusing Pakistan of supporting Afghan Taliban without proof.

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Other than you, for no one it is a BS!! Are you against the remaining world? The 26/11 investigation have been done in cooperation with many agencies around the world. Recently Spain detained some Pakistanis in relation to 26/11. US allowed questioning of Headley in front of FBI and his lawyer those revealed in the newspapers.

The truth is no one agree with your view of BS! Thats another truth!

I think he's talking about the allegations against ISI.

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i would wholeheartedly agree with you on your opinion on the past indiscretions of these reputable agencies but that fact alone does absolve the fact that the ISI is known to covertly ( rogue agents as they maybe) to assist many terrorist outfits. anything else is burying your head in the sand. Your own politicians have voiced the same concern.

No evidence has been provided, hence if anyone is burying their head in the sand it's you.

 

[JayAtl]

"Reputable Intelligence agency" is an oxymoron. There's no proof of ISI supporting LeT besides Indian paranoia and conspiracy theories.

yes the french , the brits, the US and every developed country who has the ability to decipher such intelligence or have assets on the ground, and your own govt has cited that rogue elements within the ISI at best - are supportive of these terrorist groups. you are currently trying the LET in your courts that were on prior occasion called " freedom fighters" by your ex president.

how do you move forward if you challenge every truth? these portions and not all of your govt, military and ISI have done a disservice to your country. even now you read that the military threatened to take over the country again privately to the US.

 

[SMC]

yes the french , the brits, the US and every developed country who has the ability to decipher such intelligence or have assets on the ground, and your own govt has cited that rogue elements within the ISI at best - are supportive of these terrorist groups. you are currently trying the LET in your courts that were on prior occasion called " freedom fighters" by your ex president.

Listen, the only time Pakistani government has refered to these guys was when they were talking about who could support the terrorist in theory. They didn't say that they exist and so far have rejected any such allegations.

Now as far as French, Brits and the US is concerned, no they are not reputable. Far from that. If they are reputable, then you must believe that Iraq had WMDs. They have provided no proof for their allegations to begin with. More importantly, however, they rarely (if ever) allege that rogue elements in ISI are support LeT or Taliban.

how do you move forward if you challenge every truth? these portions and not all of your govt, military and ISI have done a disservice to your country. even now you read that the military threatened to take over the country again privately to the US.

How many times do I have to go over this? What you believe is not "truth". Truth is something well established with evidence, which is not true in this case.

 

[Kinetic]

Here's the beauty of it. (No I don't believe in the conspiracy theories you listed) You claim that I accuse India without proof. But the beauty of this is that even though you accuse me of doing this, you do it too! That's how I can turn it around on you. You may call me a hypocrite, but you are one too! It will be hypocritical to call someone a hypocrite if you a hypocrite yourself.

You totally missed the why I mentioned those other than of many others like BLA etc! Instead you took it as counter counter-allegations against you!! NO! Its not the case! Look at the conspiracy theories I mentioned flood (i think it was a signature of a elite member), lol math fixing, lol flag bearing!!

Let this aside.

This has been discussed extensively by Agnostic Muslim. There's not really much to this.

There are so many non-Indian news against Headley's revelations and links with ISI, one example,

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/17/world/asia/17headley.html

Now don't say that everyone and everything is BS.

Plus then we also have Indians accusing Pakistan of supporting Afghan Taliban without proof.

Its not just India but Afghan govt, US and NATO forces mainly accuses.

 

[WAR-rior]

"Reputable Intelligence agency" is an oxymoron. There's no proof of ISI supporting LeT besides Indian paranoia and conspiracy theories.

ohh..u mean to say ISI is nothing but an incompetent intelligence agency who only sits at home and watch television !

u gotta be kidding friend......no intellegence agency is what u FEEL like it is...... it supports its friends and screws its foes.

what do u think ISI wud be doing to india ?

Be realistic !

 

[SMC]

Let this aside.



There are so many non-Indian news against Headley's revelations and links with ISI, one example,

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/17/world/asia/17headley.html

Again, this has been discussed before.

Now don't say that everyone and everything is BS.

If that's the case then believing that Iraq did not have WMDs prior to the war was a conspiracy theory. We found out that's not the case. Let me make it simple.

1. Not everyone is saying that ISI was involved in supporting LeT. US is certainly not saying.
2. Even if everyone said it, that's not evidence that it's true. What you're committing is argumentum ad populum. What needs to be provided is evidence that ISI is involved.

Its not just India but Afghan govt, US and NATO forces mainly accuses.

US and NATO certainly don't accuse Pakistan of supporting Afghan Taliban. And even if they did, they do not have any evidence. Also, my original point still stands - Indians accuse Pakistan without evidence and whether or not others do it too (they don't, in fact, may besides Afghanistan LOL) doesn't make a difference.

One last thing. You (and other Indians) seem to have a delusion that the whole world believes that the Pakistani government supports terrorism. I can assure you that's not the case, and certainly NATO and US don't say anything like this publicly. It's only Indian government, and perhaps Afghan.

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ohh..u mean to say ISI is nothing but an incompetent intelligence agency who only sits at home and watch television !

u gotta be kidding friend......no intellegence agency is what u FEEL like it is...... it supports its friends and screws its foes.

what do u think ISI wud be doing to india ?

Be realistic !

But then, by that token, RAW also supports TTP and BLA.