Genocide of buddhists by brahmin hindus in ancient india

[magra]

So if we follow the hindutva ideology ,buddhists are the real land owners of the subcontinent . Muslims jumped quite later into this scene. Hindus caused far more damage to buddhism than Muslims.
But these hypocrite indians won't convert all hindu temples in india into buddhist monasteries.
As to no surprise so far no indian can be seen this thread as well.
Most disgusting people on the face of earth.

Buddhism grew out of Hinduism in 3rd century BC. At that time, there was no concept of an organized religion in the subcontinent. There were various schools of thought - Shaivism, Vaishnavism, Jainism, Buddhism. Each competed for influence and power. Most of the competition was done through debates, at times these also got ugly in terms of violence. There was no large scale organized religious genocide in India.

Buddhism was never adopted by the great majority of common people in India. And as explained, Hindu school of thought quickly assimilated Buddhism thoughts by adopting Buddha as one of the Hindu gods.

 

[Cheepek]

Perhaps "Historian" PN Oak might be more to your comfort.

I don't know who is PN Oak, but I do know CPI card holder DN Jha and his unsuccessful travails in RJB dispute, and how SC junked the "opinion" of such "historians".

 

[KurtisBrian]

There is nothing called real land owner. The concept of my land my country is a modern concept. There were no borders thousands of years ago. People migrated to different areas and settled and called them their land. The original owner of this entire planet are early men or homo sapiens if you want to realistically find the earth's original owner.

Seems very doubtful especially considering how old human ruins date. Humans and animals are tribal (form groups/packs). Tribes/packs fight. Humans and animals are territorial and fight over good land. If one doesn't protect their lands and women/females, enemy males will come to take both.
Buddhists probably didn't fight so they died. Undoubtedly women, land and wealth were taken.
Early Jesusites also didn't fight. They died, too. Modern supposed Jesusites (Americans) are more like Romans and now always fighting. This results in other men dying and the lands, women and wealth of those other men being taken.

As far as to why religions get conquered, religions need Gods and Messiahs to keep them strong. If a religion's God can be weakened, destroyed or chased off then the invaders will be able to conquer or usurp.
the usurper Ra vs He who wore the white Crown, Osiris in Ancient Egypt.
Islam vs Buddhism in Central Asia. still destroying statues.

Mihirakula which killed 30 m Buddhist in current Punjab and KPK was a hindu Shiva devotee

It led to fall of Gandhara Civilization

Shiva is indeed a destroyer. Will be interesting to see when he attacks.

 

[Gilljutt]

How is Buddhism and Hinduism different? In fact you will see Shiva statues in many Buddhist buildings... Placed there by Buddhists.

Buddha was more philosopher than religious. He left religion up to the individual.

 

[Buddhistforlife]

Seems very doubtful especially considering how old human ruins date. Humans and animals are tribal (form groups/packs). Tribes/packs fight. Humans and animals are territorial and fight over good land. If one doesn't protect their lands and women/females, enemy males will come to take both.
Buddhists probably didn't fight so they died. Undoubtedly women, land and wealth were taken.
Early Jesusites also didn't fight. They died, too. Modern supposed Jesusites (Americans) are more like Romans and now always fighting. This results in other men dying and the lands, women and wealth of those other men being taken.

As far as to why religions get conquered, religions need Gods and Messiahs to keep them strong. If a religion's God can be weakened, destroyed or chased off then the invaders will be able to conquer or usurp.
the usurper Ra vs He who wore the white Crown, Osiris in Ancient Egypt.
Islam vs Buddhism in Central Asia. still destroying statues.


Shiva is indeed a destroyer. Will be interesting to see when he attacks.

Again you are wrong. Buddhism did not die in India solely because of conquest although it had a part. Assimilation by Brahmins, lack of state patronisation and migration also played a part in it.

How is Buddhism and Hinduism different? In fact you will see Shiva statues in many Buddhist buildings... Placed there by Buddhists.

Buddha was more philosopher than religious. He left religion up to the individual.

Buddhism is very different than Hinduism. Only we Buddhists can understand that. If you are a Hindu, better mind your own business instead of trying to prove Lord Buddha as an avatar of Vishnu.

Also Shiva temples in places like Body Gaya were placed by Hindu kings like Shashanka. No Buddhist will place Shiva statue in a Buddhist temple.

 

[KurtisBrian]

Again you are wrong. Buddhism did not die in India solely because of conquest although it had a part. Assimilation by Brahmins, lack of state patronisation and migration also played a part in it.

I didn't even mention India. India is NOT Central Asia.

I explained how placid people get wiped out and robbed. Humans and animals take....take land, females and wealth.
I also hinted that the Buddhists God was probably weakened, destroyed or chased away and gave Ra/Osiris as a recorded example.

Where else was I wrong? was it when I made Indian Orange Hindus angry on another defense forum when I called the fire element the most female since alone of the elements fire gives birth (to more fires)?

 

[Buddhistforlife]

I didn't even mention India. India is NOT Central Asia.

I explained how placid people get wiped out and robbed. Humans and animals take....take land, females and wealth.
I also hinted that the Buddhists God was probably weakened, destroyed or chased away and gave Ra/Osiris as a recorded example.

Where else was I wrong? was it when I made Indian Orange Hindus angry on another defense forum when I called the fire element the most female since alone of the elements fire gives birth (to more fires)?

Again you are wrong wrong wrong.

Buddhism did not exist on a greater scale in Central Asia before the Mongols took over control of the region. Buddhism's last boundary to the West was Afghanistan. Even Afghanistan was not a fully Buddhist nation because Zoroastrians, Manichaeism and other tribal religions had strong presence.

Central Asian nations like Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan, Tajikistan followed Tengrism, Shamanism and Manichaeism. Later on some converted to Buddhism while most of them converted to Islam. The ones who converted to Buddhism are living in Mongolia and Tibet and there is one Buddhist group called Tuvan who lives in Uzbekistan or Turkmenistan I don't know.

 

[KedarT]

Mihirakula which killed 30 m Buddhist in current Punjab and KPK was a hindu Shiva devotee

It led to fall of Gandhara Civilization

I doubt at that time there were 30 million people in the whole of Northern India let alone Punjab and KPK.

Buddhism is very different than Hinduism. Only we Buddhists can understand that. If you are a Hindu, better mind your own business instead of trying to prove Lord Buddha as an avatar of Vishnu.

Also Shiva temples in places like Body Gaya were placed by Hindu kings like Shashanka. No Buddhist will place Shiva statue in a Buddhist temple.

His point stands. There's a lot of syncretism between Hinduism and Buddhism. I think people in SL and Thailand follow a mixture of both.

 

[KurtisBrian]

Again you are wrong wrong wrong.

Buddhism did not exist on a greater scale in Central Asia before the Mongols took over control of the region. Buddhism's last boundary to the West was Afghanistan. Even Afghanistan was not a fully Buddhist nation because Zoroastrians, Manichaeism and other tribal religions had strong presence.

Central Asian nations like Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan, Tajikistan followed Tengrism, Shamanism and Manichaeism. Later on some converted to Buddhism while most of them converted to Islam. The ones who converted to Buddhism are living in Mongolia and Tibet and there is one Buddhist group called Tuvan who lives in Uzbekistan or Turkmenistan I don't know.

Awful big statue in Aghanistan for a place that wasn't dominated by Buddhism. How many others were cleansed by parasitic destroyers?

Bamiyam Buddha carbon dated to 544-600 CE (AD 544- AD 600). That long predates those Sharman or Shamanist worshiping Mongols.

Oh look at that I am correct. You are wrong.

 

[Maira La]

Buddhism grew out of Hinduism in 3rd century BC.

Absolute nonsense peddled by Brahminists to portray Hindus as peaceful monks to naive foreigners.

Buddhism, like Jainism, was a rebellion against Hindu Brahminist madness. It tried to remove the caste system and promoted equality among all its followers. It's obvious why the elite Brahmins tried everything to stem it's rise.

 

[Buddhistforlife]

Absolute nonsense peddled by Brahminists to portray Hindus as peaceful monks to naive foreigners.

Buddhism, like Jainism, was a rebellion against Hindu Brahminist madness. It tried to remove the caste system and promoted equality among all its followers. It's obvious why the elite Brahmins tried everything to stem it's rise.

You should not comment about Buddhism without knowing about it. The fact you said about Buddhism is a lie from top to bottom.

Buddhism is not a rebellion against Hinduism. You talk like as if lord Buddha decided to go against Brahmins and found a new faith that's horsecrap.

Saying Buddha founded Buddhism in order to tackle Brahmins is like saying Prophet Muhammad founded Islam to rebel against Quraysh.

 

[Maira La]

Saying Buddha founded Buddhism in order to tackle Brahmins is like saying Prophet Muhammad founded Islam to rebel against Quraysh.

Isn't it obvious Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) rebelled against his tribe? And everything the tribe stood for?

Great people like Buddha and Mahavira do not arise for no reason. People were suffering under caste domination and injustice all over the continent.

Buddha in his own lifetime had argument with Brahmin fanatics, did you read those?

 

[magra]

Absolute nonsense peddled by Brahminists to portray Hindus as peaceful monks to naive foreigners.

Buddhism, like Jainism, was a rebellion against Hindu Brahminist madness. It tried to remove the caste system and promoted equality among all its followers. It's obvious why the elite Brahmins tried everything to stem it's rise.

There have been several movements to reform and improve Hindu school of thought at various times. Janinism, Buddhism, Bhakti movement, Arya Samaj etc etc
All contributions are welcome.

Ofcourse, caste based discrimination is a blot and should be eradicated. Although it is legally banned, it would need few more decades to go out completely in practice.

 

[SecularNationalist]

There is nothing called real land owner. The concept of my land my country is a modern concept. There were no borders thousands of years ago. People migrated to different areas and settled and called them their land. The original owner of this entire planet are early men or homo sapiens if you want to realistically find the earth's original owner.

You are right but hindutva people will disagree with you. That was my point.

 

[SecularNationalist]

Buddhism grew out of Hinduism in 3rd century BC. At that time, there was no concept of an organized religion in the subcontinent.

What a loathe of crap seriously.
Buddhism and hinduism are both dharmic religions but yet they are different from each other. It's like saying Islam ,judaism and christianity are one religion because they are all abrahmic religions which is ofcourse not true.
Wasn't adopted by a majority? Today dig almost any spot from srilanka to afghanistan and you will find buddhist archeological remains beneath it. The empire of ashoka the great was the biggest one in the history of this region.