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GENOCIDE IN BANGLADESH!

On the contrary Jamaat e Islami guys went Berserk , destroyed the public property,disrupted the public life, even threatened the security establishment and targeted the minorities in the name of religion. When the security establishment took steps to prevent the mayhem created by these guys, efforts are being kept in place to brand it as a Genocide:-)crazy:).
I agree there will always be a political angle in this kind of things and even Vote bank politics, But the real cause of the Jamaati Islami guys is not justified and they are targeting Hindus in BD, disrupting public life and threatening security establishment with civil war.

Yes right, the Shahbagi party destroyed Islami bank, while police was actually watching because they had bd flag around their heads but Jamati are the thugs because police won't let them protest peacefully. do you know what 100+ murder means? Its about time everyone goes berserk.
 
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Why are you talking against post-1975 era? It was the best era and because of that era led by General Ziaur Rahman the people of Bngladesh are living still in a free country. It is always AL that initiates trouble for the country and for itself. It was the inefficiency of AL govt that there were hundreds of thousands of deaths in 1971 war. It was in 2007 AL street demonstrations that brought about another military rule. It is now again AL that is creating chaos in the streets, and virtually asking for the military to take over.

Do not say Mujib's killing was initiated by Zia. Mujib was killed in August 1975 because of his too India leaning policy and his policy of a gradual disbanding of the military (India would have liked it). Today's people are not that alarmed about India, although I find a few Mollah propagandists here are trying to scare us as if we are all small children and it is still 1975. But, post-1971 scenerio was different because BD was a new country and people were worried about Indian interference. So, there was no negative reaction when Mujib was killed.

Zia came or had to come because of another coup not initiated by himself. He was kept arrested in this coup and was released by his military supporters who then staged a counter coup. So, why do you talk negative about post-1975? Contrary to what you want to say, BD gained another or true independence with the rise of Zia.

Seems Indians are not that fond of seeing Bangladesh a strong military country that can say NO to Indian gestures on its face. Zia said NO to India and went to court China's assistance. Because of his farsightedness, China still remains a friend of BD and is helping BD to build up its economy and military muscles.

I think T-Rex meant the same you said.
 
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Why are you talking against post-1975 era? It was the best era and because of that era led by General Ziaur Rahman the people of Bngladesh are living still in a free country. It is always AL that initiates trouble for the country and for itself. It was the inefficiency of AL govt that there were hundreds of thousands of deaths in 1971 war. It was in 2007 AL street demonstrations that brought about another military rule. It is now again AL that is creating chaos in the streets, and virtually asking for the military to take over.

Do not say Mujib's killing was initiated by Zia. Mujib was killed in August 1975 because of his too India leaning policy and his policy of a gradual disbanding of the military (India would have liked it). Today's people are not that alarmed about India, although I find a few Mollah propagandists here are trying to scare us as if we are all small children and it is still 1975. But, post-1971 scenerio was different because BD was a new country and people were worried about Indian interference. So, there was no negative reaction when Mujib was killed.

Zia came or had to come because of another coup not initiated by himself. He was kept arrested in this coup and was released by his military supporters who then staged a counter coup. So, why do you talk negative about post-1975? Contrary to what you want to say, BD gained another or true independence with the rise of Zia.

Seems Indians are not that fond of seeing Bangladesh a strong military country that can say NO to Indian gestures on its face. Zia said NO to India and went to court China's assistance. Because of his farsightedness, China still remains a friend of BD and is helping BD to build up its economy and military muscles.

Good post. I think T-Rex was being sarcastic in his comment.
 
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Is this true?

What is the legal justification for this trial, in that case?

It's true, Mujib declared general amnesty. That time it was not possible for him to carry out the trial. Even one with death sentence could not be executed. After all, he needed power and he was satisfied with that. In fact, I think the trial should have continued, that was high time to hang the genocide collaborators. Mujib didn't have that admin capability. Besides, there could be another reason that he feared....forming a neutral commission would have revealed something that might have gone against Mujib's interest, just a guess.

Well...people may think that war criminals must be brought to tribunal, doesn't matter if Mujib stopped it or not. It's legal, people have the right to demand such a trial. But the motive behind the current tribunal is different. In a simple word it's political witch hunt prescribed by some third party. Saying third party because this Hasina collaborated with Jamat several times in the history of BD. Then she didn't know that in a future time she might have to bring them under tribunal. One more interesting thing is not a single person from the list prepared in 1973 under war crimes act was arrested in 2010.
 
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I agree with posters here that genocide is not the correct legal term, mass killings is more correct. But other than that the petition looks fine. But here is the link to another similar petition to US govt. that got almost 41,000 signatures:
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/pe...-tribunal-and-mob-justice-bangladesh/6gg04svt

I would request concerned Bangladeshi's who do not support mob justice and political witch hunt to sign this petition please.
 
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BANGLADESH: Shoddy tribunal has pushed the country to the verge of a civil war: Asian Human Rights Commission

March 7, 2013



The tribunal on war crimes established in March 2010 has pushed Bangladesh to extreme violence. Since 28 February, the events have taken a violent turn in which almost 100 persons including women, children and police officers have lost life. Several hundreds more are injured, and properties destroyed of which no body in the country has any true count. Many, who have lost their lives or are injured, were not participating in any armed protest. They were unfortunate to be at the wrong place at the wrong time. Both state and non-state actors are responsible for these gruesome events, of which the government apparently has no control.

The violence has spread beyond Dhaka, where, fundamentalist hoodlums target members of the minority communities and their properties. Arson and looting is rampant. Places of worship are burned down or otherwise vandalised. It is gruesomely clear that nobody is in control. Amidst the events, political parties are settling their scores against each other, for which the ruling political party is abundantly misusing the state forces.

The violence is linked to the war crimes tribunal and the judgments the tribunal pronounced. The tribunal has negated some of the basic norms of criminal justice, for instance, it has held 'faceless' trials. The tribunal specifically targets the Jamat-e-Islami, a political party that collaborated with the Pakistan military during Bangladesh's war of independence in 1971. The Jamat-e-Islami is widely believed to have committed crimes against humanity resisting the independence movement and understandably has no wide support within Bangladesh. Victims of crime and inhumanity committed during 1971 and their families expect the Jamat-e-Islami, its affiliates and allies, be punished. The incumbent government knows this well, and in fact the tribunal is a shoddy attempt of legalising a political act, that lacks transparency, accountability and is destined to fail justice. Regrettably, the atrocious nature of violence committed by the Pakistan military in which the Jamat-e-Islami directly partook, and the yearning for justice of those who are wronged in the process threatens anyone who would speak against the tribunal, irrespective of the legitimacy of its constitution, purpose and processes. In addition, the Jamat-e-Islami has responded, in the manner in which it understands expressing dissent, through violence.

The tribunal is a political weapon of the incumbent government and its 14-party alliance led by the Bangladesh Awami League. Persons, who are close to the Awami League are not investigated for war crimes, though there are strong allegations against them. Similar allegations of bias exist concerning investigation and prosecution, that naturally is reflected in the adjudication of cases. The integrity of the investigative, prosecutorial, and adjudicative limbs of the tribunal is also widely questioned.

The ensuing confusion has resulted in opportunities for criminal elements in the country, to target their victims, most importantly the minorities. The neutral space for discussion and criticism of what is happening in Bangladesh is substantially narrow. Human rights defenders risk various forms of repression. Media and information flow through modern communication tools have been severely restricted and monitored by the state.

In the mad rush of the political parties to grab power in the country, what they have forgotten is the duty of the state to bring about justice, to those whom it has been denied thus far. The shoddy tribunal, literally negates the possibility of legitimate justice, not only to those who have suffered violence in the past but to the entire psyche of the nation. Worse, the tribunal has become a cause for more violence, and will trash a nation's hope to seek and obtain justice.

Video footages available show the state forces murdering unarmed civilians in full public view. On 15 February, the state police shot Mr. Tofayel Ahmed, a student in Cox's Bazar district town. In another incident, like several others, persons allegedly from the Islami Chhatra Shibir, a student wing of the Jamat-e-Islami, are seen snatching guns from police officers and beating officers to death.

The country today has slipped further into an abyss where the notion of the rule of law, does not exist. It is Bangladesh's tragedy that an institution created to deal with past human rights abuses has pushed the country to the verge of a civil war. Deep problems that have affected the functioning of justice institutions today are claiming its inevitable price, in blood.



BANGLADESH: Shoddy tribunal has pushed the country to the verge of a civil war
 
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Unrest in Bangladesh
A nation divided
A flawed tribunal opens old wounds and threatens Bangladesh’s future





IT WAS supposed to help Bangladesh come to terms with the horrors that accompanied its birth as a nation in 1971. But the “International Crimes Tribunal” has provoked the worst political violence the country has endured in the 42 years since. Actually a domestic court, the tribunal is trying men accused of atrocities in the war that won independence from Pakistan.

According to Odhikar, a Bangladeshi human-rights watchdog, more than 100 people died between February 5th and March 7th in what it called a “killing spree” by law-enforcement agencies on the pretext of controlling the violence. At least 67 people were killed after the court delivered its third sentence on February 28th. That was death by hanging for Delwar Hossain Sayeedi, one of the leaders of Jamaat-e-Islami, Bangladesh’s biggest Islamic party, for the murder, abduction, rape, torture and persecution of his countrymen.

The sentence had been expected. But members of Shibir, Jamaat’s student wing, reacted furiously. Mr Sayeedi is a fiery Islamic orator who draws bigger crowds than any other preacher in Bangladesh. Within a day of the verdict police and paramilitary forces had shot dead at least 23 protesters. On March 3rd the government deployed troops in Bogra district, north-west of the capital, Dhaka, after over 10,000 Jamaat supporters armed with sticks and home-made bombs attacked police stations and government offices.

Jamaat has been behaving more like an insurgency than a political party. Thugs have used children as human shields, attacked Hindu homes and temples and hacked policemen to death. In Jhenidah, in the south-west, they gouged out the eyes of a policeman they had murdered. Near Chittagong in the east they failed in an attempt to burn 19 policemen alive, but killed one with a pick through the neck.

The violence saps hope that a public act of vengeance against Jamaat, delivered through a broken justice system, might inspire some sort of catharsis for the country. Rumours spread on Facebook of a sighting of Mr Sayeedi’s face on the moon. Some saw this as a sign of his innocence and it mobilised pious supporters very different from the thuggish core of Shibir.

Seven more verdicts are due. Most are expected in a matter of months. Next on the list is Ghulam Azam, the head of Jamaat in 1971, accused of overseeing the setting up of pro-Pakistani death squads manned by the party’s student wing. The prosecution is seeking the death penalty for Mr Azam, whom it likened, in its closing arguments this week, to Adolf Hitler. Observers say a verdict may come by March 26th, the day the 1971 war broke out, now celebrated as Independence Day.

If, as is widely expected, the defendants are found guilty, then the entire leadership of Jamaat could be sent to the gallows this year. So too could two members of Bangladesh’s leading mainstream opposition party, the Bangladesh Nationalist Party (BNP), which governed in coalition with Jamaat until late 2006.

Mr Sayeedi’s conviction had been expected by mid-December. It was delayed when the presiding judge, Nizamul Huq, resigned as chairman of the tribunal on December 11th. Transcripts of Skype conversations published in Bangladesh showed collusion between judges, prosecutors and a Brussels-based lawyer with no official standing with the court.

The reconstituted court responded to the apparent judicial misconduct by banning public discussion of the matter. It rejected applications for retrials for Mr Sayeedi and other defendants. Of the three judges sentencing Mr Sayeedi, one had heard only some of the prosecution’s evidence, another had heard none of it. The third had heard no evidence whatsoever.

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This seems within the judges’ rights under the tribunal’s rules. But it heightens the impression of a rush to complete the proceedings before an election due at the end of the year. Politically, the most significant effect of Jamaat’s violent fight for survival has been the BNP’s decision to tie its fate to that of its Islamist ally. It is now clear that if in power, the BNP would scrap the trials. Its leader, Khaleda Zia, called the killing of Jamaat supporters “genocide”, a term usually reserved in Bangladesh for the killings by Pakistani troops which Mrs Zia’s allies are accused of having abetted. So the secularism that is well embedded in this moderate, majority-Muslim country may be under threat if the BNP returns to power. India will hope it does not. It was antagonised when Mrs Zia, apparently to respect a protest strike, cancelled a meeting with Pranab Mukherjee, its president, on a visit to Dhaka from March 3rd-5th.

What began as a peaceful protest by hundreds of thousands of people around an intersection at Shahbag, in central Dhaka, demanding the death penalty for the indicted war criminals, has turned into a political battle that is splitting the country down the middle. The protesters’ initial narrow focus on accountability for war crimes soon gave way to calls for the banning of Jamaat, along with its influential banks, businesses and social institutions. With that shift, the public support the protesters enjoyed from across the political spectrum evaporated. The struggle is now framed by the BNP and its ally as a battle between anti-Islamist forces and the pious.

Foreign diplomats in Dhaka have issued polite appeals for due process at the tribunal and restraint on the streets. But they largely treat the trials as a domestic affair that is not their concern. America is further constrained because in 1971 it leant to Pakistan’s side during the war. Saudi Arabia is silent, despite the imminent hangings of the standard-bearers of its strand of Islam. India is supportive of Bangladesh’s approach. China is not bothered.

In January 2007 much of the outside world gave implicit backing to what amounted to a coup, and two years of unelected army-backed “technocratic” government. Foreigners now fret that the tribunal’s flaws mean that justice has not been seen to be done. But any attempt to intervene in Bangladesh’s judicial process would probably be met with contempt

Unrest in Bangladesh: A nation divided | The Economist
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lol madarasa chhap do not even know the meaning of genocide. But never forget to parrot it time and again ;) go BD govt and people finish the razakars for once and forever.

@ Why you people have the tendency to make fun with us ? For your information 70 people were killed within just 7 hours and 5000 people were seriously injured (bullet injury). Is is not a genocide !!!!! Sine 1947 non of the govt has killed so many people just to dispass crowds.

@ In 1952 on 21 February only 5 people were killed and for that reason still we are remembering it as a brutal action. In 1969 so far I hear in total 30 people were killed in6 months till the fall of President Ayub.

@ Your's this Rawami govt is gone. It is only a matter of time. Do you know that govt is know forced to talk on table !!!!!
 
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Can anyone tell me what the Jamaat-Shibir n their pet chagu's have done for which this petition has been removed??

I heard earlier that they were using fake ids just to increase the number of signature... Is it the main reason behind deleting this petition???

Nothing better one can expect from the chagus though....
 
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Really hurting to see BD suffering from violence. ALLAH karam kara ga .
 
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