Generals Duffer Kyon Hein? | On The Psychology of Military Incompetence | Adil Raja Exclusive

[PradoTLC]

Everybody in Pakistan is duffer except PTI fanbois.

it is like this ...

one has to be a complete and utter retard to support the military and PDM.

remember 38+32+40=110%

 

[YeBeWarned]

This is the question...a Gen like Bajwa was COAS of the world's 6th biggest army ...and his vision was confined to spying on politicians and pornz videos ...

I'd blame the culture in which people like Bajwa thrive, he wasn't born that way.... unless I am wrong?

 

[N.Siddiqui]

It is so sad.... that the Indian media failed to damage the reputation of the Pak army ..now people of Pakistan pointing fingers at them.....because of a few bad Generals and their cronies jeopardizing the reputation of the whole govt institution.
Do we really like this Indian propaganda !!!!!! no we don t but ..

https://www.tiktok.com/video/7211469516633607426

This is a myth there are a few bad Generals, it runs in the family. It's the system they are caught into, becomes part of it, turns into a cartel, a cabal.

If there are one or two bad Generals, and rest of them are good and passionate, caring for the country, why aren't they stopping those one/two generals and the institute sidelining them if not terminationg their job.

Points to the fact, the Army system is designed in such a way, and for them Army as an institute is more important(their bread and butter) than Pakistan as a country.

 

[HAIDER]

I'd blame the culture in which people like Bajwa thrive, he wasn't born that way.... unless I am wrong?

Well, he made new COAS a retired Gen Asim. Bajwa has big baggage.

 

[ziaulislam]

Yet everyone got played by them one by one again and again. So much for them being duffers.

Actually none get played..they simply used Brute forces that led to country being bankrupted 10 times, been split into tw, lost Kashmir and an identity crisis (as nationalist like Fatima Jinnah(and probably Jinnah himself too) were sidelined by the military, terrorism and finally multiple militancy

Military refused to follow Muhammad Ali Jinnah orders simply because British didn't want to that cost Pakistan Kashmir when we had the advantage (no logistics for India)

 

[HAIDER]

Actually none get played..they simply used Brute forces that led to country being bankrupted 10 times, been split into tw, lost Kashmir and an identity crisis (as nationalist like Fatima Jinnah(and probably Jinnah himself too) were sidelined by the military, terrorism and finally multiple militancy

Military refused to follow Muhammad Ali Jinnah orders simply because British didn't want to that cost Pakistan Kashmir when we had the advantage (no logistics for India)

Son of Bitach this British General.. We lost Kashmir when all were under Pakistan's control. Extremely painful history

DOUGLAS GRACEY COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF OF THE PAKISTAN ARMY​

1948 - 1951
"famously refused to obey a direct order from Mohammad Ali Jinnah and send troops to the Kashmir front, arguing that Jinnah, as Governor-General of Pakistan, was a representative of the British Crown and he himself was an appointee. He retired as a general from the Pakistani Army in 1951 and was replaced by General Ayub Khan."

Story: Douglas Gracey Commander-in-Chief of the Pakistan Army | Lives of the First World War

livesofthefirstworldwar.iwm.org.uk

 

[Olympus81]

The Generals are duffers as they are not taught to think beyond their nose. Atleast that is true in Pakistan’s case. I mean who sells Pakistan’s lives for a drone strike for $. If they were smart, they would be going in to WoT themselves, which they did afterwards. The rentier state mentality. Propping up of proxies which came back to bite the state. Supporting religious extremism. Do strategic thinking Generals do that?

But they have been brilliant in absolving themselves of blame in the last 75 years be it sidelining Fatima Jinnah, constant martial laws, losing half the country, gun culture, propping up proxies, political engineering, hybrid regimes, selling country’s interest for $.

 

[Dalit]

The Generals are duffers as they are not taught to think beyond their nose. Atleast that is true in Pakistan’s case. I mean who sells Pakistan’s lives for a drone strike for $. If they were smart, they would be going in to WoT themselves, which they did afterwards. The rentier state mentality. Propping up of proxies which came back to bite the state. Supporting religious extremism. Do strategic thinking Generals do that?

But they have been brilliant in absolving themselves of blame in the last 75 years be it sidelining Fatima Jinnah, constant martial laws, losing half the country, gun culture, propping up proxies, political engineering, hybrid regimes, selling country’s interest for $.

The world has shunned them. They go around pleading for a billion dollars.

 

[ziaulislam]

Son of Bitach this British General.. We lost Kashmir when all were under Pakistan's control. Extremely painful history

DOUGLAS GRACEY COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF OF THE PAKISTAN ARMY​

1948 - 1951
"famously refused to obey a direct order from Mohammad Ali Jinnah and send troops to the Kashmir front, arguing that Jinnah, as Governor-General of Pakistan, was a representative of the British Crown and he himself was an appointee. He retired as a general from the Pakistani Army in 1951 and was replaced by General Ayub Khan."

Story: Douglas Gracey Commander-in-Chief of the Pakistan Army | Lives of the First World War

livesofthefirstworldwar.iwm.org.uk

Remember he couldnt be court martial or removed he was this powerful

After him his own choice of chief was initiated and this thing continued..

 

[N.Siddiqui]

It won't end, because no one in the Institution acknowledge it to be a issue in the first place, Have you ever heard a Army General went through a psychiatric evaluation ? what's his mental state and what is his view on various things/topic, The training/borderline abusive discipline and actual abuse from the seniors can turn any man into a psychopath. When a Junior is abused by a top ranking General, and his inability to do anything about it except just " follow " orders even if it means taking General Sahab's wife to Vegetable shopping, it creates a sense of hunger for the same power, and every Junior ranking Captain/Major spend his time going through all that, by the time he reaches Brig level he is now a total deranged power hungry individual with extreme sense of self righteousness and Yes Sir culture. I bet after reaching certain position Generals stop using their brains all together and start to become accustomed to those perks they enjoy in their daily lives, No traffic stops, juniors saluting/following orders, every party they attend they are bombarded with praise and women surrounding them for various reasons etc And this cycle can not be broken because no one can even say anything about the Holy institution of Godly people, those who dared often find themselves to early grave.

Army as institution have done good things but also created some of the worse derange psychopaths and Maniacs the country has ever seen, And unfortunately I don't see this ending ever. To me they are stupid to a extent where now they are DANGEROUS. A stupid/Duffer individual with unlimited power both man/resources with extreme hunger and Greed for Power and money, its a nightmare.

Exactly, well explained, right on the dot.

Was reading a few articles on the psyche of a psychopath and many of the traits and behaviour, the personality disorder of a psychopath matches exactly with that of a General what you explained and in the above Vlog by Adil Raja.

As clinically proven a person who was abused when young turned into an abuser at a later stage. And the generals turns into narcissist megalomaniacs over a period of time with all the traits like, they have this delusions of grandeur, are compulsive liars, sense of entitlement, glibness/gift of gab(Bajwa was a case in point).

Impuslive and daring, the Kargil fiasco.

And parasitical lives as well, they leech onto a person, an institute, a country.

Blame others, always blame others for their shortcomings.

 

[ziaulislam]

Ayub was simply his extension who destroyed the country and split into two

Gave up three rivers without a fight (India demanded three and got three)
India never claimed all rivers ..so how come we agreed to 100% their demand??

He sidelined Jinnah who was candidate of mujeeb ur rehman later he sidelined mujeeb

Hamud ur rehman report will open your eyes..

This is in shahab nama that someone told ayub India is making nukes..our response?? We will buy them from USA..that's literally what the duffer said to public.

Zia fuckery of society and Russian war is well known ..we credit him but forget it was benazir who grew the missle program and Bhutto who made it.

What about 1990s fuckery of benazir govt whose whole decade was spent on cleaning ladla ganja mess.

The only period which has some face saving grace is ayub early era and mushi 2002-2007 era both thanks to mess aid coming from USA both at its own cost when it came to pay
What do we have next

 

[Valar.]

it is like this ...

Not buying what you are selling. I am apolitical and I will remain so.

What do we have next

A very bright future of Pakistan regardless of whatever jealous hateful people say.

 

[lightning F57]

A very bright future of Pakistan regardless of whatever jealous hateful people say.

The economic and social indicators say otherwise.

 

[ziaulislam]

Not buying what you are selling. I am apolitical and I will remain so.


A very bright future of Pakistan regardless of whatever jealous hateful people say.

Yes bright future care to explain to our people our human development index ???

Care to explain how bengaldesh south Korea hell the bombed to old age Vietnam got ahead of Pakistan?

You must be smoking Gre@t marijuana

All the elite brains, doctors and engineers and artists are wrong but FA pass military duffer are right

The economic and social indicators say otherwise.

Have you seen the gulf clubs and BMWs of corps commanders

Then compare it with golf courses and old ambassador cars of Indian corps commanders

BMWs= great progress

Ever seen Indian generals shopping for property in Dubai??

it is like this ...

one has to be a complete and utter retard to support the military and PDM.

remember 38+32+40=110%

Same people said
Muhammad Ali Jinnah
Fatima Jinnah
And
Mujeeb ur rehman were duffers

 

[N.Siddiqui]

The Generals are duffers as they are not taught to think beyond their nose. Atleast that is true in Pakistan’s case. I mean who sells Pakistan’s lives for a drone strike for $. If they were smart, they would be going in to WoT themselves, which they did afterwards. The rentier state mentality. Propping up of proxies which came back to bite the state. Supporting religious extremism. Do strategic thinking Generals do that?

If you look holistically, in an inclusive way, they are duffers by causing so much misery, loss, 80 K men lost in the WOT which wasn't needed, the loss of eastern wing in 71, the country at the brink now. So when looked in the context of the country they are dangerous and duffers.

But when looked exclusively and on a personel level with huge entitlement of Generals in the Army, the high end, at the top level luxury, the golf courses to academies, the huge bungalows with all the perks free, and discounted for the life time, the military industrial complex, here they think they are smarter and privileged.

This is the dilemma, the reason it is not coming to a solution.