General Musharraf replies to Nawaz Sharif's accusations & lies

[ghilzai]

So why you apply this on N.S? why not CJP booked him under more serious crimes...why all this topi drama and Why Not I.K and Zardari disqualify under the same....

Because CJP portray that army is behind him against N.S to create rifts in the society ...salay sab bikay hoey hien....they all against CPEC but army and armed forces determined to build CPEC chahay kana Dajjab Itikhar ho ya majooda CJP....

Noora got caught, he didn’t upheld the rule of law and didn’t serve the people, simple.

 

[Bashido]

Hi,

They were found because the US military bombed them into running into the pakistan mountains---.

If the US really wanted them---they should have taken them out o=in afghanistan.

For trhat reason I have stated that the pakistani generals were extremely stupid as was the public---they never understood what was happening---.

the US was setting them up for the future---.

As for any new info leaked---

It does not work like that---it is all about the timing---old info brought up at a certain time may have serious issues---.

Everyone knew in Hollywood that Weinstein was screwing actresses for role for the last 30 years---many a times news came out but nothing happened---but look now---it is all over the world---.

Wao .. what a classical excuse. slow claps

What was Lumber one Phoj was doing? How every biggest terrorist attack tracked back to Pakistan. Are you saying that these generals are/were worst thing happened to Pakistan?

@MastanKhan if you try to connect the dots then you will get to know they were well aware of end results and frankenstein which they are creating. But at the end everyone consider his job most precious and end reward which was some green cards or foreign nationalities. Tell me from your deep heart, what NS is saying is lie or truth. everyone knows he is right but no one want to accept the fault. I think there is fault in our nation's line.

 

[BATMAN]

Noora got caught, he didn’t upheld the rule of law and didn’t serve the people, simple.

It's not as simple.
Crime list of NS may be long, but the fact is that Nawaz Sharif is judged based on article 62-63, basis of which apparently was him not declaring his salaried income.
Case was filed by Sheikh Rashid.

However, justice can only be done when all politicians are judged on basis of article 62-63.

 

[ghilzai]

It's not as simple.
Crime list of NS may be long, but the fact is that Nawaz Sharif is judged based on article 62-63, basis of which apparently was him not declaring his salaried income.
Case was filed by Sheikh Rashid.

However, justice can only be done when all politicians are judged on basis of article 62-63.

Well if there is evidence against them then sure they should meet the same fate as Noora, if someone has solid evidence then they should take the legal route.

 

[BATMAN]

So why you apply this on N.S? why not CJP booked him under more serious crimes...why all this topi drama and Why Not I.K and Zardari disqualify under the same....

Because CJP portray that army is behind him against N.S to create rifts in the society ...salay sab bikay hoey hien....they all against CPEC but army and armed forces determined to build CPEC chahay kana Dajjab Itikhar ho ya majooda CJP....

100% right analysis.

 

[Jaanbaz]

Hang Nawaz Sharrif.

 

[BATMAN]

Well if there is evidence against them then sure they should meet the same fate as Noora, if someone has solid evidence then they should take the legal route.

No one wants to charge NS or Zardari or Gillani etc. on corruption charges.
This will not only open a pandora box, but will also set a precedent for the times to come.
Most of our governments have been dismissed on corruption charges but no one has yet been punished for being corrupt.
Corruption is a way of life in Pakistan.
People join political parties to get elected in parliament, so that they can hire their families and tribes on govt. jobs. which starts a cycle of unending corruption.
There's plenty of evidence on Zardari, Gillani, Talpur and many of bureaucrats.
There's hardly a bureaucrat who don't have his children studying abroad, annual fee $40'000.
You might remember the case of $ recovery from the house of a secretary in Balochistan and one in Karachi who was also close aide of Fariyal Talpur.
Sorry i'm missing names in my head. but the point is, are they all punished?

 

[ghilzai]

No one wants to charge NS or Zardari or Gillani etc. on corruption charges.
This will not only open a pandora box, but will also set a precedent for the times to come.
Most of our governments have been dismissed on corruption charges but no one has yet been punished for being corrupt.
Corruption is a way of life in Pakistan.
People join political parties to get elected in parliament, so that they can hire their families and tribes on govt. jobs. which starts a cycle of unending corruption.
There's plenty of evidence on Zardari, Gillani, Talpur and many of bureaucrats.
There's hardly a bureaucrat who don't have his children studying abroad, annual fee $40'000.
You might remember the case of $ recovery from the house of a secretary in Balochistan and one in Karachi who was also close aide of Fariyal Talpur.
Sorry i'm missing names in my head. but the point is, are they all punished?

It is up to public to rise and bring change, when the public itself has no morals and is after quick buck then what do you expect of the hireichy?.

 

[BATMAN]

It is up to public to rise and bring change, when the public itself has no morals and is after quick buck then what do you expect of the hireichy?.

Exactly my point... corruption is so wide spread that, it's a norm.
You buy medicine, milk, food, fuel all is corrupt.
You go to doctor or car mechanic or fruit vendor.. they all are cheating.
You do business with govt. you pay bribe, when it comes to you paying duty to govt. you bribe.
Even Islam is most corrupt in Pakistan.

 

[ghilzai]

Exactly my point... corruption is so wide spread that, it's a norm.
You buy medicine, milk, food, fuel all is corrupt.
You go to doctor or car mechanic or fruit vendor.. they all are cheating.
You do business with govt. you pay bribe, when it comes to you paying duty to govt. you bribe.
Even Islam is most corrupt in Pakistan.

And whose fault is that?, we got the army which is the devil and we have the government which is the deep sea, public is to blame who has let this situation emerge.

I can put my hand on my heart and say we have taken small step and corruption is declining in kpk, still huge don’t get me wrong but the mentality is changing, you have to draw the line somewhere.

 

[BATMAN]

And whose fault is that?, we got the army which is the devil and we have the government which is the deep sea, public is to blame who has let this situation emerge.

I can put my hand on my heart and say we have taken small step and corruption is declining in kpk, still huge don’t get me wrong but the mentality is changing, you have to draw the line somewhere.

When is govt. of KPK going to stop smuggling from Afghanistan?

 

[Maarkhoor]

Noora got caught, he didn’t upheld the rule of law and didn’t serve the people, simple.

What about Zardari? why not a single case against him right now? why not article 62/63 applies on I.K?

 

[ALi Rizwan]

Did he reveal anything new? everything is transparent now and world knows very well. even you own Generals, DG's and your own sugar dady Musharaf accepted that Job was carried out by Pakistanis. To whom you are making fool? Wasn't DG ISI Pasha, NSA mahmud durrani accepted that? Tell me any bigger or big terror act around the world in which pakistan was not directly or indirectly involved? wasn't Perpetrators of every heinous act anywhere in world found in Pakistan under umbrella of our Lumber one and Jungo fouj? be it Osama, mullah umar, or many more.

Sir one question? Have you actually read what Nawaz said? you should feel ashamed for distorting facts.

it is not what a confirm which is a fact but what he implies.

 

[Bashido]

Sir one question? Have you actually read what Nawaz said? you should feel ashamed for distorting facts.

it is not what a confirm which is a fact but what he implies.

Yeah I have read it and ask yourself "Should we allow them to cross the border and kill 150 people in Mumbai"? Being a citizen of Pakistan where armed forces glorify themselves as "Lumber one" and "Jugno army", They don't have any control on their borders and underworld activities?have they put their all forces for political engineering? Just tell me one thing, deep down from your heart Why in every terror attack around the world we found ourselves somehow connected? Wasn't these guys who killed 150 people in Mumbai got their training in camps of Lashkar which is being headed by Ladla of our army? To whom you are trying to make fool? world is not fool enough and no one is our enemy. We are enough for ourselves and thanks to our army and their services for this country. Please don't try to give me certificate of ghadar. I have already enough.

PS: Go to into archives and you will find that there is a trial pending in our courts who were involve in Mumbai attacks (9 men). But somehow they are ladlas of our deep state. IF we go with this speed soon we lose one and only friend. I met few people here chinese and Pakistani official during MSC (munich security conference). deep down they feel regret (becaue they knew the results of FATF) but they are unable to do anything because our deep state is too much strong. One openly admitted that we have enough evidence against Hafiz saeed and Massod azhar but we are not allowed to touch them. now you can feel the pain.

 

[TMA]

I agree, Nawaz Harami traitor should be tried under article 6....immediately.
@django @Maarkhoor

who is gonna do that? article 6 is about going against the constitution anyways, has Nawaz done this?