GDP is not going down, No Slow Growth in PAKISTAN Says Chairman FBR Shabbar Zaidi

[nahtanbob]

So what you have done to prove your point that income tax is jagga tax and salary tax and sales tax are out of pocket of business man ?

You started calling names and vulgar discussion ?

The reality is the criminals like you are the one who are involved in tax theft and should be immediately be taken from all the government benefits such as passports, excess to roads, airports, pathways, water, NICs and all type of district municipal facilities. Even mosques in you pray (if you do) are on government allocated lands. Only then you will realize that the services which you tax evaders enjoying for free are important to you.

Now you can keep shouting but we Pakistani will beat the shit out of you tax evaders and take all the due tax by confiscating your black income . Do whatever you can besides starting vulgar discussion because I am going to report your post to the mods if you again start behaving like a spoil kid who has no point but to keep up on the top discussion starts vulgar discussions ...

the tone of the disputes will lead to productive Pakistanis shifting their assets abroad and hiding their income. the pakistani state does little for the citizens. Unless it does more it cannot ask for more taxes

 

[I.R.A]

Mr. Zaidi does have some resemblance with Zardari

And they happen to be friends by the way .......... I am not saying that it means the former is not credible, he is, and he has all the liberty to chose his friends. Mr. Zaidi has served as interim Sindh finance minister in past.

 

[The Accountant]

the tone of the disputes will lead to productive Pakistanis shifting their assets abroad and hiding their income. the pakistani state does little for the citizens. Unless it does more it cannot ask for more taxes

They already doing it ? I am finance professional and I know it for fact that all of these business communities are here just to earn whereas the profits from black money are stored outside Pakistan.

What is the average growth rate you have in a mature company in US? My first quarter growth in the top line was 59%. whereas average growth for the past 5 years is around 25% and my company is one of the biggest brands of Pakistan.

So which business man want to leave a gold mine like this?

They want to take everything from Pakistan but without contributing towards it ...

Pakistan is not owned by 1% elite but resources are of all the Pakistanis and should be distributed accordingly.

 

[blueazure]

So what you have done to prove your point that income tax is jagga tax and salary tax and sales tax are out of pocket of business man ?

You started calling names and vulgar discussion ?

The reality is the criminals like you are the one who are involved in tax theft and should be immediately be taken from all the government benefits such as passports, excess to roads, airports, pathways, water, NICs and all type of district municipal facilities. Even mosques in you pray (if you do) are on government allocated lands. Only then you will realize that the services which you tax evaders enjoying for free are important to you.

Now you can keep shouting but we Pakistani will beat the shit out of you tax evaders and take all the due tax by confiscating your black income . Do whatever you can besides starting vulgar discussion because I am going to report your post to the mods if you again start behaving like a spoil kid who has no point but to keep up on the top discussion starts vulgar discussions ...

pl report me , by all means.. thanks

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[Wa Muhammada]

1. another moron sitting in west, 6000 miles away and lecturing about pakistan tax laws

please go and ask the textile exporters / surgical good exporters and corporations about their tax claim refunds stuck in FBR goods for 4 years , what a joke really


2. salary to employees not from his pocket ??? are u high on something ?? where does the salary come from then ??? are you even literate ? ?


3. google, facebook ,apple all have offshore entities and offices ( ireland and other tax havens etc) where they 'optimize tax' . pl go and research something. apple was even caught doing it and had to pay fines




calls him self the ' accountant '

has typos littering in his post

kiddo , when you have done shitting your nappy and have grown a pair to write more than 2 lines , then come to me.. i have blown to smithereens many trolls like you over the years.

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the government is like a bum a$$ friend who borrows 100 USD from you...

takes you out for a beer after 1 year and calls it even

Yep I’v also got tax refund claims pending for the last 4yrs too... pathetic honestly

 

[ziaulislam]

My head is sound enough to ask reasonable questions. For your arguments why should we compare ourselves to syria and sudan in first place ? why not malaysia , bangladesh a recent example , china all of these countries got freedom in same time frame or later ? i will not mention the oil rich countries because then you will say they have oil. The reality is that these governments worked for their people and the people returned in shape of taxes. With the systems made for ridiculing people and making it headache for them to go through all this bureaucracy where nepotism and corruption is a daily routine. How can it be expected from the people to pay taxes ? for your reference . Do you have any idea how much money a custom inspector earns with corrupt practices daily in Pakistani dry ports? and there are trillion more places where every person knows whats happening. People are not stupid no matter how much we argue.

Reality check No government will succeed in restoring that confidence. Because it was never an agenda, doubling , tripping of the tax revenue can only happen when prejudice is removed by the government by offering something in return. Its a very Harsh Reality! Otherwise its just taxing people so the system and corrupt practices can get more fat.

Hell colonizer imposed tax at 30 % rate on their people but i will tell you that hell those colonizer were still richer and developed than you even in those times. So makes sense.Now if you are still comparing present to to a colonial era then argument ends here.

People are still paying taxes and will pay but what you are saying is only reasonable when the income is high enough, and the system works for people and the country not for the sake of sustaining the system itself.

Because we are not behaving like India Bangladesh or China who pay 20% taxes per gdp vs Pakistan only paying 10%

 

[nahtanbob]

They already doing it ? I am finance professional and I know it for fact that all of these business communities are here just to earn whereas the profits from black money are stored outside Pakistan.

What is the average growth rate you have in a mature company in US? My first quarter growth in the top line was 59%. whereas average growth for the past 5 years is around 25% and my company is one of the biggest brands of Pakistan.

So which business man want to leave a gold mine like this?

They want to take everything from Pakistan but without contributing towards it ...

Pakistan is not owned by 1% elite but resources are of all the Pakistanis and should be distributed accordingly.

Socialism does not work. Profits from textile factory goes to owners of the factory with some distributed to employees. Otherwise no one is starting factories or businesses. You need the businessmen.

Businessmen do not mind paying the taxes and the government. The government employees are downright corrupt and disgusting. The services rendered by the government are pathetic. If there is anything you want to copy from China it is how to administer government services

Mature company in a mature economy is not going to have a high growth rate. that is by definition.

The bigger elephant in the room is who calls the shots on government policies. The businessmen or your army generals

 

[The Accountant]

Socialism does not work. Profits from textile factory goes to owners of the factory with some distributed to employees. Otherwise no one is starting factories or businesses. You need the businessmen.

Businessmen do not mind paying the taxes and the government. The government employees are downright corrupt and disgusting. The services rendered by the government are pathetic. If there is anything you want to copy from China it is how to administer government services

Mature company in a mature economy is not going to have a high growth rate. that is by definition.

The bigger elephant in the room is who calls the shots on government policies. The businessmen or your army generals

Who is talking about bringing socialisim here ? I am just saying that confiscate the propeery of tax evaders as they are making tons of profits and remitting all of these overseas ...

By the way who the hell r u to tell us that how to make policies ... it is our internal matter and indian should stay away from us

 

[maithil]

According to Hafiz Pasha, GDP growth this year has been close to 2.3% instead of 3.3% as claimed by government. Quite a performance.

 

[blueazure]

Who is talking about bringing socialisim here ? I am just saying that confiscate the propeery of tax evaders as they are making tons of profits and remitting all of these overseas ...

By the way who the hell r u to tell us that how to make policies ... it is our internal matter and indian should stay away from us

on what grounds will you confiscate properties ? are you even sane ? do you think any company would come and invest in pakistan under such draconian laws ? pl tell me a single line in pakistan tax law which says it it illegal to remit profit abroad for tax optimization


what a jack a$$ bummer you are really... and such a cesspool of mediocrity and little kids this board has become

the tone of the disputes will lead to productive Pakistanis shifting their assets abroad and hiding their income. the pakistani state does little for the citizens. Unless it does more it cannot ask for more taxes

under pakistani tax laws, there is no provision that stops companies from having offshore entities and moving profits abroad. obviously, the theifs are FBR dont like it and pressure the govt to remove such clauses, but the pressure from business community and chamber of commerce is otherwise

lest some dumb kids on this forum ( who are still in their nappies ) forget, it is the businessmen and shopkeeper who run the economy ,

Yep I’v also got tax refund claims pending for the last 4yrs too... pathetic honestly

pl contact mr 1paki$tani .. im sure he can help you with your refunds. he knows pakistani tax authorities and the cure to all problems, they are al haaj pak saaf pak daman farishtey

 

[I.R.A]

under pakistani tax laws, there is no provision that stops companies from having offshore entities and moving profits abroad.

It isn't that easy by the way. Related party transactions remain under focus (as long as they are not concealed and masked).

 

[blueazure]

It isn't that easy by the way. Related party transactions remain under focus (as long as they are not concealed and masked).

MNCs all take their profit out of pakistan ( after paying all input taxes ofc ). jazz, telenor, oil companies etc all do this .

there is no tax law which can stop them doing this, if they do , no MNC will come and work in Pakistan.

 

[I.R.A]

MNCs all take their profit out of pakistan ( after paying all input taxes ofc ). jazz, telenor, oil companies etc all do this .

there is no tax law which can stop them doing this, if they do , no MNC will come and work in Pakistan.

They sure do, but its not that easy. There are SBP regulations in place and then there is this ever getting tough and shady Transfer pricing. Its after disclosures and obtaining clearances. In fact sec 172 of income tax can anytime be abused by FBR.

 

[nahtanbob]

Who is talking about bringing socialisim here ? I am just saying that confiscate the propeery of tax evaders as they are making tons of profits and remitting all of these overseas ...

By the way who the hell r u to tell us that how to make policies ... it is our internal matter and indian should stay away from us

well you can either listen to your businessmen or you can listen to IMF, Saudi royals and Chinese investors. You are right on one matter - pakistani get to decide who they are listening

 

[The Accountant]

on what grounds will you confiscate properties ? are you even sane ? do you think any company would come and invest in pakistan under such draconian laws ? pl tell me a single line in pakistan tax law which says it it illegal to remit profit abroad for tax optimization


what a jack a$$ bummer you are really... and such a cesspool of mediocrity and little kids this board has become



under pakistani tax laws, there is no provision that stops companies from having offshore entities and moving profits abroad. obviously, the theifs are FBR dont like it and pressure the govt to remove such clauses, but the pressure from business community and chamber of commerce is otherwise

lest some dumb kids on this forum ( who are still in their nappies ) forget, it is the businessmen and shopkeeper who run the economy ,



pl contact mr 1paki$tani .. im sure he can help you with your refunds. he knows pakistani tax authorities and the cure to all problems, they are al haaj pak saaf pak daman farishtey

Stupidity has no limits...

Why would anybody confiscate any asset for legally disclosed profits and legally remitted income ? And if all is illegal then than what to worry about?

My statement was about who consider Income tax as Jagga tax and are hiding their income by money laundering ... Soon we will grab them and confiscate your property ...

By the way the nathanbob that you are discussing with is a false flag indian and will be very happy with morrons that feel proud on tax theft and he wil not tell you that US the country in which he is currently living is collecting income data of all US national from all financial institutes of the world and in case of any tax evasion they don't just confiscate the property but also put in the jail and same is the process of China but surprisingly both of the countries are the biggest investment destinations ...

Again jahalat or bewakoofi ki koi limits nahi hain

well you can either listen to your businessmen or you can listen to IMF, Saudi royals and Chinese investors. You are right on one matter - pakistani get to decide who they are listening

I need not to listen to businessmen or IMF, I will listen to my leadership as they can maintain the balance between businessman and common man ...

If a businessman will still be earning money than he will not leave which he is ...

Look at the big businessman of Pakistan ... look at the fortune they have made ...