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GCC airforce combined will be the second most powerful in the world basing on current inventory factors alone. Thats over 250 f-15, 100+eurofighter and 100+f-16(50&60). Especially after KSA gets all f-15 upgraded to f-15SA they are deadly.
 
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I hate to type one Muslim country vs an other Muslim country. It will make other nations laugh at us saying hey you kill and displace each other we are watching your asylum seekers and say cheers :astagh:
So i will comment here undesirably.
First of all GCC is unable to defeat the weakest but bravest Arabic country like Yemen. Yemenis have no fighter jets, MB tanks , Howitzers , SAM systems , ICBMs , naval ships , submrines and etc. In fact Saudis are operating a genocide against a defenseless people. :tsk: Generally they cannott defeat Yemen.


Obviously GCC has the best air force probably in western Asia. And as regards to this fact that they will be the first one who starts the war, we will destroy all of their air bases with hundreds of missiles ready to launch. And this missile is enough for GCC's air bases:

https://defence.pk/threads/iranian-zulfiqar-missile-revealed.450590/

After that, land forces will appear :p: under protection of this deadly short range self propelled and also solid fueled ballistic rocket :
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Hey Saudis call the big daddy while you are crying :undecided:
:rofl:


I hope we will see revolution and democratic governments in GCC countries whom will put Arabian people's benefits at the first place of their policy. Tyrant regimes in Arabic countries are ensuring big daddy's , USA , benefits against Arabian people. Also Saudi princes are wasting Arabian oil dollars in Europe and America probably playing with some western babes.

Let's see an American guy's quote about this issue :

Saudi Arabia: A Weak Kingdom On Its Knees?
By Tom Kool - Jan 14, 2016, 5:19 PM CST
d6a296df65d48697c99ad2143c920f8b.jpg

The great Kingdom of Saudi Arabia—the long-time dictator of crude oil prices for the world—is struggling on all fronts.

The Saudis are losing their proxy wars in both Syria and Yemen; their OPEC leadership is under threat; they are not winning the crude oil price war; and its long-running alliance with the West is in question.

From Saudi Arabia’s perspective, Iran seems to be gaining ground everywhere. Saudi Arabia has several weaknesses that help explain the current anxiety emanating from Riyadh.



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1. Saudi Arabia losing its leadership in the OPEC

Saudi Arabia has been the default leader of OPEC; however, despite Saudi insistence to the contrary, the U.S. shale boom, increased Russian oil production, and a very resolute Iran are challenging this leadership.

The result is that Saudi Arabia now finds itself powerless in supporting oil prices. Instead of the much-needed production cuts, during the 4 December 2015 meeting, the OPEC nations refused to adhere to any ceiling, which has been the practice for years. Related: Get Ready for Iran’s Oil: Sanctions Could Be Removed Next Week

2. Burning through reserves—fast



(Click to enlarge)

Source: www.tradingeconomics.com

Iran is waiting for the lifting of sanctions, expected sometime in 2016, to pump more oil to improve its economy, whereas the Saudi’s are losing they are burning through their cash reserves quickly. The above chart speaks for itself, depicting the kind of damage low oil prices are inflicting on Saudi reserves. By the most optimistic opinion, Saudi Arabia can survive low oil prices only for four years.

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3. Iran has assumed a very significant leadership role among Shia Arabs

Both Iran and Saudi Arabia are currently locked in a bitter proxy war on two fronts: Syria and Yemen.

Iran has the support of Hezbollah in Lebanon, along with support from the majority of Shiites in Iraq. More to the point, Iran has even managed to grow its Shiite support base among Sunni-ruled nations. The execution of Shia Sheikh Nimr Al-Nimr by the Saudis is an indirect acceptance of the growing influence of Iran among the suppressed 15 percent Shiite population in Saudi Arabia. This shows that the Saudi leadership is feeling threatened on their own soil. Related: Saudi Aramco IPO More About Geopolitics Than Finance

4. Saudi Arabia cannot defeat Iran in a direct war

Iran is a much larger nation than Saudi Arabia by population and has held its own in numerous long wars. By comparison, the Saudis have an army that is inexperienced, led by loyalists of the Royal family who occupy plum postings. These are not the war-hardened generals of Iran.

While Saudi Arabia has a nice arsenal with the latest weaponry, the kingdom is heavily dependent on the West for its use and maintenance. Its indecisive and ineffective handling of three conflict fronts—Iraq, Syria, and Yemen—give us no confidence in its ability to take on Iran.

5. Saudi Arabia knows it won't have U.S. support for a direct war with Iran

The painfully misguided wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are enough to deter the current U.S. administration from entering into full-fledged war in the Syrian and Yemen theaters. Washington's non-committal stance, along with efforts to broker a deal with Iran, should serve as very loud signals to Saudi Arabia. The message to the kingdom is this: Don't go to war with the hope that that U.S. will support you. And without the West, Saudi Arabia knows it stands no chance of winning a war against Iran. The royal family will probably not take the risk of losing power by indulging in such a war.

These relationships are anything but clear, and everything about balance. So the U.S. will continue to sell weapons to Saudi Arabia to allow it to maintain a bit of balance—with the latest deal approved in October—and Washington and Tehran will continue to play cat and mouse as they near a nuclear deal and a removal of sanctions. This is best illustrated by the recent detainment and then quick release of U.S. sailors for an incursion into Iranian waters, and the statement and then denial by Iran that it had completely closed off a key nuclear reactor that would have sealed the nuclear deal. Related: War Between Saudi Arabia And Iran Could Send Oil Prices To $250

The Saudis are in a state of panic all around—from its OPEC status and dwindling reserves to its proxy wars that absolutely cannot turn into full-fledged wars and its growing friendlessness. The fact that oil fell briefly below $30 a barrel on Tuesday for the first time in 12 years won't have helped.

At the end of the day, Saudi Arabia has overextended itself, and overestimated its prowess and it does not have the clout that it once had to be able to do this effectively.

If you're wondering whether there will be an all-out war between Saudi Arabia and Iran, it's unlikely. At this point, the Saudis are likely to continue the proxy war and hope that the Iranians do something foolish to upset the nuclear deal with the West. Until then, Saudi Arabia will make a lot of noise and attempt subversive activities, but nothing more.

By Tom Kool of Oilprice.com


Unfortunately Saudis are wasting Arabian people's resources for western benefits.
 
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I hate to type one Muslim country vs an other Muslim country. It will make other nations laugh at us saying hey you kill and displace each other we are watching your asylum seekers and say cheers :astagh:
So i will comment here undesirably.
First of all GCC is unable to defeat the weakest but bravest Arabic country like Yemen. Yemenis have no fighter jets, MB tanks , Howitzers , SAM systems , ICBMs , naval ships , submrines and etc. In fact Saudis are operating a genocide against a defenseless people. :tsk: Generally they cannott defeat Yemen.


Obviously GCC has the best air force probably in western Asia. And as regards to this fact that they will be the first one who starts the war, we will destroy all of their air bases with hundreds of missiles ready to launch. And this missile is enough for GCC's air bases:

https://defence.pk/threads/iranian-zulfiqar-missile-revealed.450590/

After that, land forces will appear :p: under protection of this deadly short range self propelled and also solid fueled ballistic rocket :
View attachment 349616


Hey Saudis call the big daddy while you are crying :undecided:
:rofl:


I hope we will see revolution and democratic governments in GCC countries whom will put Arabian people's benefits at the first place of their policy. Tyrant regimes in Arabic countries are ensuring big daddy's , USA , benefits against Arabian people. Also Saudi princes are wasting Arabian oil dollars in Europe and America probably playing with some western babes.

Let's see an American guy's quote about this issue :

Saudi Arabia: A Weak Kingdom On Its Knees?
By Tom Kool - Jan 14, 2016, 5:19 PM CST
d6a296df65d48697c99ad2143c920f8b.jpg

The great Kingdom of Saudi Arabia—the long-time dictator of crude oil prices for the world—is struggling on all fronts.

The Saudis are losing their proxy wars in both Syria and Yemen; their OPEC leadership is under threat; they are not winning the crude oil price war; and its long-running alliance with the West is in question.

From Saudi Arabia’s perspective, Iran seems to be gaining ground everywhere. Saudi Arabia has several weaknesses that help explain the current anxiety emanating from Riyadh.



x
1. Saudi Arabia losing its leadership in the OPEC

Saudi Arabia has been the default leader of OPEC; however, despite Saudi insistence to the contrary, the U.S. shale boom, increased Russian oil production, and a very resolute Iran are challenging this leadership.

The result is that Saudi Arabia now finds itself powerless in supporting oil prices. Instead of the much-needed production cuts, during the 4 December 2015 meeting, the OPEC nations refused to adhere to any ceiling, which has been the practice for years. Related: Get Ready for Iran’s Oil: Sanctions Could Be Removed Next Week

2. Burning through reserves—fast



(Click to enlarge)

Source: www.tradingeconomics.com

Iran is waiting for the lifting of sanctions, expected sometime in 2016, to pump more oil to improve its economy, whereas the Saudi’s are losing they are burning through their cash reserves quickly. The above chart speaks for itself, depicting the kind of damage low oil prices are inflicting on Saudi reserves. By the most optimistic opinion, Saudi Arabia can survive low oil prices only for four years.

text.png
image.png




3. Iran has assumed a very significant leadership role among Shia Arabs

Both Iran and Saudi Arabia are currently locked in a bitter proxy war on two fronts: Syria and Yemen.

Iran has the support of Hezbollah in Lebanon, along with support from the majority of Shiites in Iraq. More to the point, Iran has even managed to grow its Shiite support base among Sunni-ruled nations. The execution of Shia Sheikh Nimr Al-Nimr by the Saudis is an indirect acceptance of the growing influence of Iran among the suppressed 15 percent Shiite population in Saudi Arabia. This shows that the Saudi leadership is feeling threatened on their own soil. Related: Saudi Aramco IPO More About Geopolitics Than Finance

4. Saudi Arabia cannot defeat Iran in a direct war

Iran is a much larger nation than Saudi Arabia by population and has held its own in numerous long wars. By comparison, the Saudis have an army that is inexperienced, led by loyalists of the Royal family who occupy plum postings. These are not the war-hardened generals of Iran.

While Saudi Arabia has a nice arsenal with the latest weaponry, the kingdom is heavily dependent on the West for its use and maintenance. Its indecisive and ineffective handling of three conflict fronts—Iraq, Syria, and Yemen—give us no confidence in its ability to take on Iran.

5. Saudi Arabia knows it won't have U.S. support for a direct war with Iran

The painfully misguided wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are enough to deter the current U.S. administration from entering into full-fledged war in the Syrian and Yemen theaters. Washington's non-committal stance, along with efforts to broker a deal with Iran, should serve as very loud signals to Saudi Arabia. The message to the kingdom is this: Don't go to war with the hope that that U.S. will support you. And without the West, Saudi Arabia knows it stands no chance of winning a war against Iran. The royal family will probably not take the risk of losing power by indulging in such a war.

These relationships are anything but clear, and everything about balance. So the U.S. will continue to sell weapons to Saudi Arabia to allow it to maintain a bit of balance—with the latest deal approved in October—and Washington and Tehran will continue to play cat and mouse as they near a nuclear deal and a removal of sanctions. This is best illustrated by the recent detainment and then quick release of U.S. sailors for an incursion into Iranian waters, and the statement and then denial by Iran that it had completely closed off a key nuclear reactor that would have sealed the nuclear deal. Related: War Between Saudi Arabia And Iran Could Send Oil Prices To $250

The Saudis are in a state of panic all around—from its OPEC status and dwindling reserves to its proxy wars that absolutely cannot turn into full-fledged wars and its growing friendlessness. The fact that oil fell briefly below $30 a barrel on Tuesday for the first time in 12 years won't have helped.

At the end of the day, Saudi Arabia has overextended itself, and overestimated its prowess and it does not have the clout that it once had to be able to do this effectively.

If you're wondering whether there will be an all-out war between Saudi Arabia and Iran, it's unlikely. At this point, the Saudis are likely to continue the proxy war and hope that the Iranians do something foolish to upset the nuclear deal with the West. Until then, Saudi Arabia will make a lot of noise and attempt subversive activities, but nothing more.

By Tom Kool of Oilprice.com


Unfortunately Saudis are wasting Arabian people's resources for western benefits.


no way man too loss in yemen
our problem in yemen is becuse we are real muslim we don't kill insont people and targting any one
Russia in syria with all the russian power with Iran forces with hezpolah with us they can't defeat one city Aleppo

also in iraq more then 400 k personal they can't defeat a 3000 isis members in mousel

for your information saudi arabia fighting not only houthi wish they are more then what us and russia fight with also the ali abdullah saleh they are about a 300 k trained soldier
and don't forget they have a ballistic missile
and much more weapons then all the militia in the world
saudi arabia through it's intelligence in yemen may have made a 3 to 5 mistake but belive me not even 1% of what mistakes that been made bu us and russia


again i will provide you with a map to see what saudi arabia do to houthi and there allays

Don't forget the number and the weapons they have

GCC would win but only united.

Believe me any war with any state in the gcc we will be in it togather this is one of the main rules of gcc council
We help kuwait when saddam went to war with it also with bahrain againt iranian - Bahraini militia in bahrain

I hate to type one Muslim country vs an other Muslim country. It will make other nations laugh at us saying hey you kill and displace each other we are watching your asylum seekers and say cheers :astagh:
So i will comment here undesirably.
First of all GCC is unable to defeat the weakest but bravest Arabic country like Yemen. Yemenis have no fighter jets, MB tanks , Howitzers , SAM systems , ICBMs , naval ships , submrines and etc. In fact Saudis are operating a genocide against a defenseless people. :tsk: Generally they cannott defeat Yemen.


Obviously GCC has the best air force probably in western Asia. And as regards to this fact that they will be the first one who starts the war, we will destroy all of their air bases with hundreds of missiles ready to launch. And this missile is enough for GCC's air bases:

https://defence.pk/threads/iranian-zulfiqar-missile-revealed.450590/

After that, land forces will appear :p: under protection of this deadly short range self propelled and also solid fueled ballistic rocket :
View attachment 349616


Hey Saudis call the big daddy while you are crying :undecided:
:rofl:


I hope we will see revolution and democratic governments in GCC countries whom will put Arabian people's benefits at the first place of their policy. Tyrant regimes in Arabic countries are ensuring big daddy's , USA , benefits against Arabian people. Also Saudi princes are wasting Arabian oil dollars in Europe and America probably playing with some western babes.

Let's see an American guy's quote about this issue :

Saudi Arabia: A Weak Kingdom On Its Knees?
By Tom Kool - Jan 14, 2016, 5:19 PM CST
d6a296df65d48697c99ad2143c920f8b.jpg

The great Kingdom of Saudi Arabia—the long-time dictator of crude oil prices for the world—is struggling on all fronts.

The Saudis are losing their proxy wars in both Syria and Yemen; their OPEC leadershipundthrea; they are not winning the crude oil price war; and its long-running alliance with the West is in question.

From Saudi Arabia’s perspective, Iran seems to be gaining ground everywhere. Saudi Arabia has several weaknesses that help explain the current anxiety emanating from Riyadh.



x
1. Saudi Arabia losing its leadership in the OPEC

Saudi Arabia has been the default leader of OPEC; however, despite Saudi insistence to the contrary, the U.S. shale boom, increased Russian oil production, and a very resolute Iran are challenging this leadership.

The result is that Saudi Arabia now finds itself powerless in supporting oil prices. Instead of the much-needed production cuts, during the 4 December 2015 meeting, the OPEC nations refused to adhere to any ceiling, which has been the practice for years. Related: Get Ready for Iran’s Oil: Sanctions Could Be Removed Next Week

2. Burning through reserves—fast



(Click to enlarge)

Source: www.tradingeconomics.com

Iran is waiting for the lifting of sanctions, expected sometime in 2016, to pump more oil to improve its economy, whereas the Saudi’s are losing they are burning through their cash reserves quickly. The above chart speaks for itself, depicting the kind of damage low oil prices are inflicting on Saudi reserves. By the most optimistic opinion, Saudi Arabia can survive low oil prices only for four years.

text.png
image.png




3. Iran has assumed a very significant leadership role among Shia Arabs

Both Iran and Saudi Arabia are currently locked in a bitter proxy war on two fronts: Syria and Yemen.

Iran has the support of Hezbollah in Lebanon, along with support from the majority of Shiites in Iraq. More to the point, Iran has even managed to grow its Shiite support base among Sunni-ruled nations. The execution of Shia Sheikh Nimr Al-Nimr by the Saudis is an indirect acceptance of the growing influence of Iran among the suppressed 15 percent Shiite population in Saudi Arabia. This shows that the Saudi leadership is feeling threatened on their own soil. Related: Saudi Aramco IPO More About Geopolitics Than Finance

4. Saudi Arabia cannot defeat Iran in a direct war

Iran is a much larger nation than Saudi Arabia by population and has held its own in numerous long wars. By comparison, the Saudis have an army that is inexperienced, led by loyalists of the Royal family who occupy plum postings. These are not the war-hardened generals of Iran.

While Saudi Arabia has a nice arsenal with the latest weaponry, the kingdom is heavily dependent on the West for its use and maintenance. Its indecisive and ineffective handling of three conflict fronts—Iraq, Syria, and Yemen—give us no confidence in its ability to take on Iran.

5. Saudi Arabia knows it won't have U.S. support for a direct war with Iran

The painfully misguided wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are enough to deter the current U.S. administration from entering into full-fledged war in the Syrian and Yemen theaters. Washington's non-committal stance, along with efforts to broker a deal with Iran, should serve as very loud signals to Saudi Arabia. The message to the kingdom is this: Don't go to war with the hope that that U.S. will support you. And without the West, Saudi Arabia knows it stands no chance of winning a war against Iran. The royal family will probably not take the risk of losing power by indulging in such a war.

These relationships are anything but clear, and everything about balance. So the U.S. will continue to sell weapons to Saudi Arabia to allow it to maintain a bit of balance—with the latest deal approved in October—and Washington and Tehran will continue to play cat and mouse as they near a nuclear deal and a removal of sanctions. This is best illustrated by the recent detainment and then quick release of U.S. sailors for an incursion into Iranian waters, and the statement and then denial by Iran that it had completely closed off a key nuclear reactor that would have sealed the nuclear deal. Related: War Between Saudi Arabia And Iran Could Send Oil Prices To $250

The Saudis are in a state of panic all around—from its OPEC status and dwindling reserves to its proxy wars that absolutely cannot turn into full-fledged wars and its growing friendlessness. The fact that oil fell briefly below $30 a barrel on Tuesday for the first time in 12 years won't have helped.

At the end of the day, Saudi Arabia has overextended itself, and overestimated its prowess and it does not have the clout that it once had to be able to do this effectively.

If you're wondering whether there will be an all-out war between Saudi Arabia and Iran, it's unlikely. At this point, the Saudis are likely to continue the proxy war and hope that the Iranians do something foolish to upset the nuclear deal with the West. Until then, Saudi Arabia will make a lot of noise and attempt subversive activities, but nothing more.

By Tom Kool of Oilprice.com


Unfortunately Saudis are wasting Arabian people's resources for western benefits.


about the ballistic missile wait inteal i finish the ballistic missile and ammunition subject

and the air defense subject
 
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add :
72 f15 to qatar
and 40 f-18 for kuwait
signed today
 
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add :
72 f15 to qatar
and 40 f-18 for kuwait
signed today
Not signed. Just US State dept. giving the go ahead, and notifying Congress. Once Congress says yes, then negotiations will start, after which a contract will be signed.
 
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