Gazprom to build new 63 bcm Black Sea pipeline to Turkey

[rmi5]

The question is not about Turkey relying to Russia as Russia already supplies %60 of our gas demand. We won't raise their share more. But building another energy corridor through Turkey is good. It raises geostrategic importance of Turkey.

That's why I said that it is just simply an action against Southern Corridor pipeline(TANAP, TAP, ...)

All is going well on the Akkuyu project, there is no concern about their nuclear technology. Also i heard it is the newest Russian technology with TOI standart...i don't know much though.

Then good for you. I hope you get your nuclear plant in less time than Iranians received their own plant, with their newest technology

 

[Galad]

Russian nuclear technology is outdated

Taking your dreams for reality I see.Not bad,not bad at all.Russian technology is so outdated that almost 1/3 of all reactors(close to 100) in the world at various stages right now(from research to build) will be build by Rosatom.Russia has so " outdated " technology that country is only one capable in the world to produce nuclear power cells from nuclear waste.
Good move by Turkey.Unlike my country Turkish politicians know where their priorities lies-to defend national interest of their own country(unlike Bulgarian politicians). Turkey will receive investments,discount of gas deliveries,job places,educate specialists,bilateral trade will be further increased.A win-win scenario despite Turkey and Russia having disagreements over Syria.

 

[rmi5]

Taking your dreams for reality I see.Not bad,not bad at all.Russian technology is so outdated that almost 1/3 of all reactors(close to 100) in the world at various stages right now(from research to build) will be build by Rosatom.Russia has so " outdated " technology that country is only one capable in the world to produce nuclear power cells from nuclear waste.
Good move by Turkey.Unlike my country Turkish politicians know where their priorities lies-to defend national interest of their own country(unlike Bulgarian politicians). Turkey will receive investments,discount of gas deliveries,job places,educate specialists,bilateral trade will be further increased.A win-win scenario despite Turkey and Russia having disagreements over Syria.

Chernobyl disaster - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Bushehr Nuclear Power Plant - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
@Sinan Akkuyu uses the same reactor as Bushehr

 

[xenon54 out]

Chernobyl disaster - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Bushehr Nuclear Power Plant - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
@Sinan Akkuyu uses the same reactor as Bushehr

Chernobyl desaster was not the result of bad technology but human error, just saying.

 

[rmi5]

Chernobyl desaster was not the result of bad technology but human error, just saying.

Who says that? independent investigators or some official USSR apologists? I wonder why the simple human error, does not cause other nuclear plants to blow up. As an electrical engineer myself, I know that there are numerous control systems in which guarantee the security of a plant. Otherwise, there would be tens of power plant blow up each day in the world.

 

[xenon54 out]

Who says that? independent investigators or some official USSR apologists? I wonder why the simple human error, does not cause other nuclear plants to blow up. As an electrical engineer myself, I know that there are numerous control systems in which guarantee the security of a plant. Otherwise, there would be tens of power plant blow up each day in the world.

They were doing a stress test which isnt done properly as far as i know, and also mind that we are talking about 80s technology im sure the security standarts looks way different today.

 

[-SINAN-]

That's why I said that it is just simply an action against Southern Corridor pipeline(TANAP, TAP, ...)

TANAP will succeed, no one can undermine it.

Then good for you. I hope you get your nuclear plant in less time than Iranians received their own plant, with their newest technology

Building starts in 2015 first reactor will be operational in 2019... And mate, why do you compare Turkey with Iran. This is not the first time we are doing business with Russia. But this is in a massive scale. Do you have something against Russia ? You used enthusiastically defend Russian products at the past.

 

[rmi5]

They were doing a stress test which isnt done properly as far as i know, and also mind that we are talking about 80s technology im sure the security standarts looks way different today.

bro, I exactly know what has happened. It is not called human error. About their technologies, they are not updated that much. As I mentioned before, in Akkuyu case, they are using a technology which is 4-5 decades old. They have only increased the size of reactor by 20% to provide more power compared to Bushehr. rest of it is exactly the same. It is even very close to the previous Armenian nuclear power plant:
Metsamor Nuclear Power Plant - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[xenon54 out]

bro, I exactly know what has happened. It is not called human error. About their technologies, they are not updated that much. As I mentioned before, in Akkuyu case, they are using a technology which is 4-5 decades old. They have only increased the size of reactor by 20% to provide more power compared to Bushehr. rest of it is exactly the same. It is even very close to the previous Armenian nuclear power plant:
Metsamor Nuclear Power Plant - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Well thats what they said in the documentary i watched about the desaster, it was very detailed but i would appreciate if you could elaborate what happened there, im not an expert of the issue, just saying what i saw.

 

[rmi5]

TANAP will succeed, no one can undermine it.


Building starts in 2015 first reactor will be operational in 2019... And mate, why do you compare Turkey with Iran. This is not the first time we are doing business with Russia. But this is in a massive scale. Do you have something against Russia ? You used enthusiastically defend Russian products at the past.

Their helicopters, Mi 35s, are really good. No doubt. It's not good to compare two helicopters from two different classes, but if we want to do so, I obviously prefer Russian Mi 35 to T-129.
Their tanks in 70s and 80s were the best. No doubt.
Their space technology is also very good. No doubt.
Their car industry? sucks, no dubts again.
Their nuclear technology? sucks even more.
Being Russian made, does not necessarily mean good or bad.
Also, you remember how they repaired your helicopters? right So, there is not much difference between your case, and Iran's.

 

[-SINAN-]

Their helicopters, Mi 35s, are really good. No doubt. It's not good to compare two helicopters from two different classes, but if we want to do so, I obviously prefer Russian Mi 35 to T-129.
Their tanks in 70s and 80s were the best. No doubt.
Their space technology is also very good. No doubt.
Their car industry? sucks, no dubts again.
Their nuclear technology? sucks even more.
Being Russian made, does not necessarily mean good or bad.
Also, you remember how they repaired your helicopters? right So, there is not much difference between your case, and Iran's.

Rmi5 i think, our officials made an extensive research and choose Russians.

 

[rmi5]

Well thats what they said in the documentary i watched about the desaster, it was very detailed but i would appreciate if you could elaborate what happened there, im not an expert of the issue, just saying what i saw.

OK, I have previously explained about it in some other thread. I will search for my post, and if I found it, I will mention you there

 

[-SINAN-]

Chernobyl disaster - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Bushehr Nuclear Power Plant - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
@Sinan Akkuyu uses the same reactor as Bushehr

Search for Akkuyu nuclear reactor.

 

[rmi5]

Rmi5 i think, our officials made an extensive research and choose Russians.

Well, your officials have not much of a good reputation for me.
Their foreign policies? sucks
Their internal policies? sucks
Their economical policies? It's good, if we exclude the corruption.
Their choice for A-129? wrong
Altay project and collaborating with SK? good

Again, you need to consider it in a case by case basis.

 

[rmi5]

Search for Akkuyu nuclear reactor.

It's almost the same as Bushehr, only the size is increased by 20%