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Gaza-Israel Conflict | October 2023

Very generous you are with other people Lives.
israel lost on both sides.
1- they lost on 7th october militarly.
2-they lost when they used extensive force against Gaza ( the westerners began to take a step against zionists) more boycott will take place against israel even the peace agreement with saudia or new arab states is gone in the thin air.
3- you lost when you bomb the israeli hostages LOL

You people are dumb as fuk.. your only solution was accepting 7th october defeat, neyanyahu resign and start negotiating with Hamas.
 
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This spanking by isreal will last for generations.
The morals and self respect of all Muslim fighters and armies Dented.
We accepted being isreals bitch.
All the hardwork that khalid ibn walid and Salahudin and many others did has been wasted.
The manner in which isreal humiliated us. By strip searching our sisters in west bank, by killing unborn babies, by ripping body parts out of kids, by denying aid is the ultimate power move which made us look cowards.
Our fighters will loose motivation and self honour, their will is broken.
We will think 10 times before even thinking about hurting isreal.
This is what current leaders have done to ummah. They thinking about their countries and lands but not thinking about the psychological effects this will have on next generations.
It is a fair assessment. Muslims have been defeated and humiliated comprehensively. This was a fact known to everyone. Now it has been established in brought daylight.

Excessive exuberance and excessive hopelessness are both counterproductive. It takes decades to build a civilization and we can’t rush it into existence. Nor is it a good idea to give up in despair.

100 years ago, in 1923, the Muslim world was all colonized with almost no free country. Even the Ottoman Empire had been disbanded. Compare the situation today. We have 2 billion Muslims, 50+ Muslim countries with 32 million sq. km. of territory. $24 trillion of PPP GDP. That’s a huge improvement over 100 years ago. It’s a superpower if it was united.

We have useless leaders but they’re easier to get rid of than the colonial masters of 100 years ago. We need to work on overthrowing them and bringing representative governments. Only with good leadership and unity will Muslims be successful.
 
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Excessive exuberance and excessive hopelessness are both counterproductive. It takes decades to build a civilization and we can’t rush it into existence. Nor is it a good idea to give up in despair.

100 years ago, in 1923, the Muslim world was all colonized with almost no free country. Even the Ottoman Empire had been disbanded. Compare the situation today. We have 2 billion Muslims, 50+ Muslim countries with 32 million sq. km. of territory. $24 trillion of PPP GDP. That’s a huge improvement over 100 years ago. It’s a superpower if it was united.

We have useless leaders but they’re easier to get rid of than the colonial masters of 100 years ago. We need to work on overthrowing them and bringing representative governments. Only with good leadership and unity will Muslims be successful.
I get your point and you are right that we are doing well alot better then we would have been had we been still under lets say british.
But didn't we also used to have west Pakistan (Bangladesh)? And how did that turn out to keep them under the rule?
Point i am making keeping all these nation under one empire would not work in this day and age. Everyone would be revolting, genocides happening on daily basis, proxy wars funded by enemy empires and so on. British or any other empire took all the usefull resources and when they were done divided and left. All empires disbanded because it would do more harmful keeping us under.
 
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israel lost on both sides.
1- they lost on 7th october militarly.
2-they lost when they used extensive force against Gaza ( the westerners began to take a step against zionists) more boycott will take place against israel even the peace agreement with saudia or new arab states is gone in the thin air.
3- you lost when you bomb the israeli hostages LOL

You people are dumb as fuk.. your only solution was accepting 7th october defeat, neyanyahu resign and start negotiating with Hamas.
Why are you so delusional?
There is literally no more Gaza or Hamas after this is done. Israël is in the middle of Gaza surrounding the headquarters of Hamas.
No Muslim country has done sht. They didn't even boycot any energy supply.
How are you exactly winning expect from in your fantasies????????
Massive cope

This delusional thinking is the cause why Muslim lost all wars against Israël
 
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100 years ago, in 1923, the Muslim world was all colonized with almost no free country. Even the Ottoman Empire had been disbanded. Compare the situation today. We have 2 billion Muslims, 50+ Muslim countries with 32 million sq. km. of territory. $24 trillion of PPP GDP. That’s a huge improvement over 100 years ago. It’s a superpower if it was united.

Good points.
Some people here are in constant breast beating mode. There is much more unity in the Islamic world than given credit for. I have even seen Hindus in Indian vlogs noticing that and saying they wish Hindus had such unity against Christian infiltrations in India's northeast/Myanmar.

Specific to this thread: The trajectory of the state of Israel is catastrophic unless there is rapid course correction. Anyone thinks even if Hamas is expelled/totally neutralized, this conflict will end?? No, as long as there are millions of Palestinians within a few hundred miles of Jerusalem, even if in Jordan or Sinai or Lebanon or Syria, there is hope for the Palestinians.
 
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Good points.
Some people here are in constant breast beating mode. There is much more unity in the Islamic world than given credit for. I have even seen Hindus in Indian vlogs noticing that and saying they wish Hindus had such unity against Christian infiltrations in India's northeast/Myanmar.

Specific to this thread: The trajectory of the state of Israel is catastrophic unless there is rapid course correction. Anyone thinks even if Hamas is expelled/totally neutralized, this conflict will end?? No, as long as there are millions of Palestinians within a few hundred miles of Jerusalem, even if in Jordan or Sinai or Lebanon or Syria, there is hope for the Palestinians.

Let's see what the OIC meeting brings.
 
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I get your point and you are right that we are doing well alot better then we would have been had we been still under lets say british.
But didn't we also used to have west Pakistan (Bangladesh)? And how did that turn out to keep them under the rule?
Point i am making keeping all these nation under one empire would not work in this day and age. Everyone would be revolting, genocides happening on daily basis, proxy wars funded by enemy empires and so on. British or any other empire took all the usefull resources and when they were done divided and left. All empires disbanded because it would do more harmful keeping us under.

We don’t need an empire. All we need are elected governments in Muslim countries so that the wishes of the people are implemented, instead of taking orders from foreign masters.

The Europeans were slaughtering each other throughout history but then they created the European Union and live together peacefully, apart from slaughtering each other over Ukraine.

Muslim countries can also create organizations like EU and NATO. It will take a few years. The anger people feel against treacherous rulers should speed up the process of getting rid of them.
 
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Middle Eastern summit of condemnations going on in Saudi Arabia.


I predict that Erdogan would condemn Israel the best, followed by Qatar and Iran.

Egypt is not that good at condemning, but the UAE have a unique vocabulary of condemnation.

Erdogan: 10/10 condemnation points.
Oman: 2/10, good, but could be better.
 
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