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Gaza-Israel Conflict | October 2023

I see another chapter of TRAGEDY unfolding.
Gaza is being pounded heavily - these poor people.

People think war is joke - it is not. Many will die.

Ummah support on the scale that some have assumed is wishful thinking. People have seen what became of ISIL. Numerous lives are ruined. Militia fighting model works in appropriate situations - not in every situation.

People need to stop and come back to the negotiation table.
There are no winners in war. Sadly, the Palestinians will not find a partner at the negotiating table. Israelis are famously vengeful people. The world must assert as much pressure as possible to force Israel to the negotiating table, but I fear this isn't realistic yet.
 

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And so far all I saw from you is crazy support for every stupidity and war crime Hamas commits in the name of "liberation".
Provably false claim as I criticised Hamas for imprisoning the elderly and suggested they should unilaterally release all non-Israelis, all elderly and all young prisoners.
 

Palestinian fighter says they kill military jews and they spare elders and handicaped people following the will of the prophet saw


They cant go in. Egyptians wont accept it. I know Allah swt will send help from Egypt
People will certainly point out that Gaza is being oppressed (absolutely), but Hamas does not have international reputation. Hamas did not work to build its international reputation - this is important consideration in modern times. But some are too focused on guns to make decisions.
 
The last time Israel started a serious ground war (2006):

"Veteran Israeli war correspondent Ron Ben-Yishai claimed that the problem was not limited to the commanding officers. He claimed that a "crybaby culture" had developed among the soldiers of the Israeli army. Almost every Israeli offensive operation in the war, including those in Ayta ash-Sha'b, were called off as soon as resistance was encountered and casualties were sustained, even though IDF in almost every clash enjoyed superiority, both in terms of numbers and firepower. Soldiers often abandoned their missions and focused all efforts on evacuating casualties from the battlefield rather than continuing to pursue their objectives."

But south Lebanon is very different to Gaza and we must assume lessons were learned.
 
@LeGenD This guy just cursed my mother,he said "**** your mother" blah blah,he said a lot more profanities about my mother and after a lot of mother insults and he ended up with a "son of a whore".

Just letting you know.
Picko jedna jel to places?
I. English, Pussy are you crying now? You will call me Balija ( insulting word) , you going to pretend that you are a Greek?
Pizdo jedna - In English pussy.
 

Yo I am noticing the same right wing gorey who would LARP about bronze age mindset and wars and the "return" all crying crocodile tears for Israel.

The same right wing media that were fawning over us about our protest towards LGTV in schools are now back to spewing Islamophobia.
 
Provably false claim as I criticised Hamas for imprisoning the elderly and suggested they should unilaterally release all non-Israelis, all elderly and all young prisoners.
Aaah but going door to door and exterminating entire families is ok? No problem there? All good?
 
Well, that's goes both way, my philosophy is if you cannot fly above the shit, then don't talk about them. Not sure if you know what I mean.
No, Not really I don't understand that reference.
The thing is, what I was talking about is public perception, Palestinian can declare independence all they want, but it would mean nothing if the world does not agree with it, and the way it's going, I can hardly see the world is going to agree on how they went about if this is the way they choose.
Exactly my point, Palestinians are stuck either way, One day British decide to bring Europeans to this land and than forced the Palestinians out and declare independence for a Jewish State and world accepted, but this privilege is not for Palestinians why ? because the world is bias and full of shit ?
You want the world to know Israel is the bad guys, you don't go commit a worse deed, because everyone of us have the memory of a gold fish, we are always going to just remember the last thing we see. Sure, call it war crime, but then what do you think after today, nobody is going to remember that IDF guys kill that girl medic, or that camera operator that looks like he is holding a gun, people aren't going to remember that, but they will remember this. Because this is going to be on our screen for a very long time to come. It's sad to have the world to resort to this but Israeli will simply use this to get away with just about anything they did that either come immediately after or a moment after all the dust had settled.
You said it yourself, world have memory of Goldfish so they should forget this incident too right ? But, they won't forget this and you know what ? because of Western media, propaganda, and how the west perceive a Israeli life more valuable than a Palestinian or Arab or Brown or black, Yes every time a Brown/black/Arab/S.Asia die west forget easily, west stop reporting on it after few hours, unless that serve their national interest like Uhighurs than they will cry for a long time, but in this unfair conflict west will only focus on one side and its casualties but not the other side ? so just because the treatment of Palestinians is unfair should they just accept this fate and give up ? I don't think your own countrymen will agree with this because American always preach that anyone who invade us we will fight them until one perish, so why not same rule applies to both parties Israel and Palestine ? why can't a Palestinian fight for his home and not been called a Terrorist ? And why can't a Israeli soldier or settler be called a Terrorist ? Maybe it has something to do with the controlled Perception in western media and society ? your guess is good as mine but for too long Palestinians have suffered brutal attacks, illegal settlements, unprovoked firing, killing kids , attacks UN shelters Israel had this coming and if the world wants me to feel sad about IDF soldiers who are dancing in some concert after harassing/killing/torturing Palestinians everyday than sorry I won't show any remorse, As for civilians or families of IDF soldiers, that's against Islam hence I will always be against harming any noncombatant.

I agree with all that, but then again, does that mean it justify doing this? Like it or not, or feeling you are victim or not, this is not going to do any good for the Palestinian, and if they think they were being wronged before this, I can guarantee you they are literally going to be wrong a long time after this and nobody, I mean nobody would care, not even the moderate level.
Isn't it how the world justify their own attacks ? USA went in war by using 9-11 as pretext, IDF justify their attacks on civilian areas and blaming it on Hamas or rockets, so why can't Hamas use this logic ? see when you have one rule for yourself and other rule for " Others " this is what happen. Israel will bomb Gaza, they are already are doing it, do they need any justification ? NO, because they are doing so for years now, do they need a reason to kill a innocent Palestinian kid or women, NO they don't. IDF ran rampage while Israeli civilian enjoyed and cheered for their forces slaughtering Palestinians, now they are on the other side of the Gun hence they feel the pain, now they understand how it feels to lose your family from a enemy, now they would know what if feels like to lose a infant in cross fire or deliberate attack, do I enjoy their civilians sufferings ? NO, but i don't enjoy any noncombatant suffering be it a Jew/Muslim/Hindu/Atheist/Christian, But Israel's policies has to be blamed for this attack and yes the world will stand with them and keep showing their support for their massacre but then they are doing so for a long time while west give them weapons to do so, but this attack will show IDF that they can be targeted and they are not invincible.

That's the issue here, when all else fail, no progress itself is a progress, but this is not "no-progress' it basically set the situtation back to a time when Israel can do anything and get away with. Basically they rolled back decade of progress on this and for what? A good feeling the oppressor get their comeuppance and kill a bunch of people that may or may not have anything to do with it?
Again, you are not seeing the picture, maybe unable to or just deliberately ignoring it, Israel is killing Palestinians for a long time, I am in USA for 3 years and every year I saw them attacking Al-Aqsa Mosque in Ramadan, I saw videos of them attacking civilians, stealing homes and land, driving villagers out of their farms, putting cement in their water wells, killing Journalists and medics, they were flying high as they had America by balls and they feel invincible that they murder people and get away with it, its a psychotic behavior often found in Psycho serial killers who find pleasure and comfort in killing people and getting away with it, The progress was that more land was lost on Palestinian side, more lives were lost , while Israel got richer and richer. Remember that legend guy who told a Arab family " If I won't steal your house, someone else will ". All that you said put yourself in their situation and than tell me, will you just sit and accept if a enemy comes to your house where you live for decades just steal it because he has IDF backing him up. No American will stand down, every American will fight and rightly so.
This Attack rollback nothing because there was nothing to begin with, If there was some peace talks, or progress or we have a solution in pipeline i would agree with you on that, but the world/Israel had given them no choice and in the desperation they finally decide to take out their anger or IDF/civilians.
 
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