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Full Solidarity? Greece Joins Veto Against EU Sanctions on Russian Ships

We had no relation to the Ottomans. This is like Cyprus vs mainland Greece.

Russia tormented and violated Ukraine since hundreds of years. Including genocide (Holodomor). This is not Cyprus vs Mainland Greece. Its Greece vs Ottomans.
 
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Russia tormented and violated Ukraine since hundreds of years. Including genocide (Holodomor). This is not Cyprus vs Mainland Greece. Its Greece vs Ottomans.
Ukraine,except for the westernmost part,had been part of the Russian nation for more than 1000 years.

When you say "Russia tormented and violated Ukraine",it's like saying Athens tormented Sparta.

Holodomor: By SOVIET authorities under GEORGIAN leader Joseph Stalin. Just like they caused misery and pain to millions of other Russians and other ethnicities.

Just like Mao caused a famine because of the Great Leap Forward.
 
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Ukraine,except for the westernmost part,had been part of the Russian nation for more than 1000 years.

When you say "Russia tormented and violated Ukraine",it's like saying Athens tormented Sparta.

Holodomor: By SOVIET authorities under GEORGIAN leader Joseph Stalin. Just like they caused misery and pain to millions of other Russians and other ethnicities.

Just like Mao caused a famine because of the Great Leap Forward.

Ukraine was always violated by russias imperialism even under czars rulership. The nation now fights its independence war and i fully support that. Aside the war if you would know Ukraine you would understand that with this war, Russia has lost Ukraine forever.
 
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Ukraine was always violated by russias imperialism even under czars rulership. The nation now fights its independence war and i fully support that. Aside the war if you would know Ukraine you would understand that with this war, Russia has lost Ukraine forever.

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Yala,khalas.
 
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Why does Greek have such a different position than NATO on this issue?
 
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Why does Greek have such a different position than NATO on this issue?

Like evry country we have facists, religious extremists and putinist trolls.

@Foinikas dreams about a facist russian empire ruling over all of europe, because some demented old who propably smelled like a wet dog, brought up "prophecies".

They simple must be ignored and thanks god they are ignored
 
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Like evry country we have facists, religious extremists and putinist trolls.

@Foinikas dreams about a facist russian empire ruling over all of europe, because some demented old who propably smelled like a wet dog, brought up "prophecies".

They simple must be ignored and thanks god they are ignored
Oh look who's back from Siberia.

Ok,first of all,google fascism. It was a predominantly Italian political system and ideology.

Second,I don't dream of a "fascist Russian Empire ruling over all of Europe". I would like a just monarchy in Greece.

You have the right not to believe in prophecies or things foretold by men and women considered holy in our faith,but I find it offensive that you choose to insult them in this way.

You probably dream of an atheist Europe,ruled by the EU,that will constantly blab about human rights while LGBT movements will educate people with TV shows,cucks will film their wives having sex with 50 men in the street openly and feminists will walk with shaved heads,a hundred piercings,drinking beer and burping like men,demanding that you do not talk about your religious views.

I'm sorry,this is not the Europe I want,this is not the Greece I want and every sane Christian and Muslim should not want this kind of "progress" for his/her country.
 
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Oh look who's back from Siberia.

Ok,first of all,google fascism. It was a predominantly Italian political system and ideology.

Second,I don't dream of a "fascist Russian Empire ruling over all of Europe". I would like a just monarchy in Greece.

You have the right not to believe in prophecies or things foretold by men and women considered holy in our faith,but I find it offensive that you choose to insult them in this way.

You probably dream of an atheist Europe,ruled by the EU,that will constantly blab about human rights while LGBT movements will educate people with TV shows,cucks will film their wives having sex with 50 men in the street openly and feminists will walk with shaved heads,a hundred piercings,drinking beer and burping like men,demanding that you do not talk about your religious views.

I'm sorry,this is not the Europe I want,this is not the Greece I want and every sane Christian and Muslim should not want this kind of "progress" for his/her country.

Dont you think thats bit simplification?

I want a powerful Europe, based on european values like logic, science and european philosophy. A europe that is able to destroy its enemies and stand firm in the world.

And i see that Europe form right now. We crisp putins troops like its nothing. Destroy his ideas of his pathetic russian empire. We secure our borders.


Im also not in general for human rights. I dont care how other countries are run, as long it doesnt interfer with us.
 
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And i see that Europe form right now. We crisp putins troops like its nothing. Destroy his ideas of his pathetic russian empire. We secure our borders.
Don't rush to draw conclusions.
 
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Full Solidarity? Greece Joins Veto Against EU Sanctions on Russian Ships​

April 18, 2022
By The National Herald

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FILE- Greek Cabinet and lawmakers applaud as Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, on the screen, thanks after addressing Greek Parliament in Athens, Greece, Thursday, April 7, 2022. (AP Photo/Thanassis Stavrakis)

ATHENS – The same day that Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky made an online appeal to Greece’s Parliament to help fight Russian invaders, the New Democracy government helped veto any European Union sanctions on Russian ships.

That was joined by Cyprus and Malta, said the site EURACTIV, blocking any ban on Russians ships coming into the bloc that would have also kept Greek ships from going to Russia on business.

Greece’s shipping industry is the world’s biggest and virtually untaxed and has considerable weight and influence politically but it wasn’t said if the government was bending to the oligarchs.

The European Commission had proposed banning all ships with a Russian flag or with a Flag of Convenience from another country – many Greek ships use the practice to avoid paying taxes.

The report said that the governments of the three countries prevented the penalties as Zelensky made a passionate speech to Greek lawmakers, citing the ancient Gree battle cry of Freedom or Death during the Ottoman Occupation.

Greek Prime Minister Kyriakos Mitsotakis was among the first to denounce the invasion and his government immediately sent military gear and weapons but has since pulled back, barring any more shipments.

He said there would be “full solidarity” with Ukraine but Zelensky said similar claims by EU and other country’s leaders should be followed up with sending more arms to help fight back Russian troops, not just their tweets of support.

The EU has also exempted two Russian banks dealing with oil and gas from sanctions against financial institutions and the bloc – depending on Russian energy for up to 40 percent of its needs – is still buying it, ignoring Zelensky’s pleas.


@Apollon
Greece national interest does comes FIRST.
 
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Why does Greek have such a different position than NATO on this issue?
That is because NATO as one united front commanded by the US and UK is alas only a MYTH. The idea fell apart a long time ago and cracks were visible.

That is why I always says EU may break up due to differing geopolitics and their own national security interest.

If it does not concern them, then neutrality is a better option.
 
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