French navy frigate buzzed by an armed Russian aircraft

[Cell_DbZ]

It has been proven over and over again that Artillery can hit within 1-2 meters of intended
target at ranges up to 70 km.

From what I have found, the range of the N5 Excalibur guided 127mm shell has a range anywhere between 37-48 km. I have to adlit that I didn't find too much.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M982_Excalibur
https://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/these-guided-smart-shells-could-revolutionize-the-navys-1687408992
I think it could be quite challenging getting that close to an alerted Russian base with a relatively big destroyer, with their A2/AD(S-400/Bastion complex) taken into consideration. Usa/Nato would have to commit seriously, with the risk of significant losses in order to take care of that (which they have).

if russia equipment destroyed in response they can easily sink u.s aircraft carriers and ships which will most costly damage than destroying s400 or few russian aircrafts in Syria

With what exactly will Russia do that with? Russia has apparantly 2 Imp. Kilo class submarines, which are capable vessels, but as they are conventionally powered submarines, they only have a limited strike capability. You also have to take into account that the Usa quite often has a submarine or 2 to protect their carriers with. Not to mentionother countries such as UK, who also have great nuclear submarines in the area:
http://metro.co.uk/2018/04/11/theresa-may-orders-submarines-syria-britain-prepares-strike-7459992/

and Russian submarines have proven to be quite trackable in the past.

I don't think Russian submarines can be underestimated; their newer vessels are quite capable, since the Toshiba sold them advanced milling equipment. The Improved Akula class apparantly is quieter than the improved Los Angeles class (stated by Admiral Boorda,1995), with the Sierra series being more capable than the Akula class.

Their latetst submarine Severodvinsk (yasen class) coming relatively close to us vessel when noise is considered

Note: Yasen M class not included on this list (as it is not yet in active service)

Their Kilo class submarines are also quiet, the improved variant more so.

You should check out this youtuber, a retired us navy submarine sonar man with a long carreer, if he does a stream you could ask him qestions; he knows his stuff.

Go slow buddy. Russia is not Afghanistan or Iraq. Its a big power.

The real problem the Russians have is the (lack of) number of submarines, certainly considering the numbers available in the mediterrean; Russia would not be able to replenish their vessels in case of war.

 

[ptldM3]

Without a working airport in Syria, Russians will have to rely on submarines,
and Russian submarines have proven to be quite trackable in the past.
Their surface level naval forces in the Mediterranean are on leased time in a conflict.

The Russian position in Syria is fragile. It would not be smart to risk losing it.

You have been reading too much Tom Clancy.

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

The very same article says the N5 shell with the 127 mm Mark 4 gun can do 40, possibly 60 miles (97 km) As lons as you are more than 12 nm (20 km) from the Syrian coast, you are on International Waters

 

[Oldman1]

You have been reading too much Tom Clancy.

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Well known fact that U.S. submarines will trail Soviet submarines. Don't be surprise Russian submarines are still being tracked these days still. I remember watching a video that was unclassified years ago of a U.S. submarine watching Soviet war games while right in the middle of it.

 

[UKBengali]

The very same article says the N5 shell with the 127 mm Mark 4 gun can do 40, possibly 60 miles (97 km) As lons as you are more than 12 nm (20 km) from the Syrian coast, you are on International Waters

Russians can use GPRS artilley from their base to hit the ships.
They can also fire anti-ship cruise missiles.

 

[T-123456]

MdCN.

Any info?

 

[Vergennes]

Any info?

French naval cruise missile enters service

https://www.meretmarine.com/fr/content/french-naval-cruise-missile-enters-service

The MdCN (missile de croisière naval) allows France to be the first European nation to have an independent and its own naval cruise missile. The only other operator of naval cruise missiles in Europe is the UK,but they use the US Tomahawk. (On their submarines only)

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

Russians can use GPRS artilley from their base to hit the ships.
They can also fire anti-ship cruise missiles.

Firing GPS grenades at a moving target is not really a good idea.
Firing anti-ship missiles, assumes You are actually aware that the ship is around,
which may or may not be true.
The Russian Airbase remains where it is.
The Russian Airbase is also with Howitzer range from Turkey, if they get involved.
A single battery can drop 20 shells within seconds. No time to respond.

 

[TaiShang]

France is building up a strong relationship with the US by joining the Russiaphobia camp. I remember during the post 9/11 war on terror, the US renamed French fries as American fries.

So much water under the bridge...

Actually, the two leaders look kind a cute together.

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As Macron heads to US, 'strong relationship' with Trump under test

Source:Reuters Published: 2018/4/19

French President Emmanuel Macron greets US President Donald Trump at the Elysee Palace in Paris, France, July 13, 2017. Photo: VCG

When France's ambassador to Washington told American officials in July 2017 that he was heading to Paris and would shortly see President Emmanuel Macron, one of them handed him a copy of the New York Times.

In it, he read the words "Yes, Emmanuel. It's true, I love you" written in highlighter next to an article about the French leader's good relationship with US President Donald Trump.

Whether Trump scribbled the words himself is unclear, but coming just two weeks after he had been hosted in great pomp at the Bastille Day military parade in Paris, it showed just how strong France-US ties were.

As he arrives in Washington on Monday for a three-day state visit, that good rapport will be tested as Macron tries to sway Trump on key issues from trade to Syria and Iran after a year spent investing in a lot of political capital with few returns.

While he has delivered on promises of change at home and is pushing his views in Europe, the world stage is proving tougher terrain. Like others before him, Macron has found predicting Trump a challenge.

With the exception of one unusually prolonged and firm handshake, Macron has opted for a non-confrontational approach toward the unconventional US president, hoping that by engaging with him he could win concessions.

He played to Trump's admiration for the military and grandeur by inviting him to Paris for the annual July 14 celebrations and dining him at the Eiffel Tower. The soft diplomacy aimed to gain Trump's confidence and influence US foreign policy at a time European diplomats say Washington lacks direction.

Macron has spoken to Trump by phone in the last year more than with any other leader, including German Chancellor Angela Merkel, arguably becoming Trump's bridge to Europe.

"He is not a classic politician," Macron said in a January interview just days after Trump tweeted about nuclear war with North Korea and gave an ultimatum to "fix" the Iran nuclear deal.

"We've built a strong relationship. We disagree on several topics. I'm always extremely direct and frank and he is too. Sometimes I manage to convince him, sometimes I fail."

The relationship has suited Trump.

He needed a friend overseas. His preference for a more unilateral, transactional diplomacy had unsettled traditional allies in Europe and left him appearing isolated among world leaders.

Besides, diplomats say that France's military role fighting Islamist militants in West Africa and Syria has opened doors in Washington.

Tests on trade, Iran

The next two weeks will provide a critical test of what influence, if any, the French president can have on his American counterpart.

Trump has given the European Union until May 1 to negotiate permanent exemptions from steel and aluminum tariffs and France, Britain and Germany until May 12 to "fix" the Iran nuclear deal with world powers.

"Macron has been trying to build alliances and wants to be the bridge between the US and Russia," said a senior former United Nations official. "There comes a point where that kind of political messaging has to be backed up with results."

Macron's desire to keep the 2015 Iran nuclear deal, while offering to be tough on Tehran's ballistic missile program and regional activities, has yet to assuage Trump.

"We're hoping that Macron will find the arguments to convince Trump to not commit this mistake, but we're not very optimistic," said a French diplomatic source.

Merkel coordination

Macron's visit will be followed on April 27 by Merkel, whose relationship with Trump has been markedly tenser.

Before a phone conversation on March 1 to discuss the war in Syria and Russian nuclear arms, the two leaders had not spoken to each other for more than five months.

Rather than being subjected to a public dressing down, like Merkel over Germany's trade policy for example, Macron has been spared criticism.

The French and German leaders meet in Berlin on Thursday to ensure they are on the same page with regard to Iran and trade ahead of their trips, a presidential source said.

Macron's good relationship with Trump has had benefits. US companies overtook German ones as the top corporate investors in the French economy last year, with US investments up 26 percent.

But he appears to have limited the damage rather than be able to claim resounding successes.

Although he failed to convince Trump to stay in the landmark Paris climate deal, the US president did not oppose Macron pushing for American firms and states to act on climate independently.

Macron has been worried about Trump feeling backed into a corner and has sensed an opportunity to sway US thinking and to elevate France in global affairs, especially over Syria and the Middle East.

However, Trump's unpredictability means that nobody knows whether a "Macron factor" really does exist.

After French, British and US strikes on Syrian government targets last week, Macron boasted publicly that he had persuaded Trump to maintain US engagement in Syria for the long term. Within hours, he was met with a rebuke by the White House.

"We've seen the decisions Trump made, but we don't know what decisions he could have taken if we hadn't had this dialogue," said a senior French official.