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India had signed an inter-governmental agreement with France in September 2016 for the procurement of 36 Rafale fighter jets at a cost of around ₹ 59,000 crore. The French minister also referred to India's planned induction of a second aircraft carrier and said France could provide more Rafale.

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France is ready to provide additional Rafale jets to India if it requires, French Defence Minister said

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France is ready to provide additional Rafale fighter jets to India if it requires, French Defence Minister Florence Parly said on Friday while noting that the use of the same aircraft by the two strategic partners is a reflection of "real asset and strength" in their ties.

Ms Parly, on a visit to India, also said that France is fully committed to supporting the 'Make in India' initiative and further integrating the Indian manufacturers into its global supply chains.

The French Defence Minister made the comments at an interactive session organised by Ananta Centre on India-France cooperation.

"I am very happy that the Indian Air Force is satisfied with its Rafale and we are very proud that despite COVID, the 36 aircraft will be delivered on time according to the contract, it is a real achievement," she said in response to a question.

"Using the same aircraft is a real asset and strength. I am sure that there is room for new developments. We are ready to answer any additional needs of request that could be made by India," she said.

The French embassy on Thursday said a total of 33 Rafale jets have already been delivered to India as per schedule despite the COVID-19 pandemic.

India had signed an inter-governmental agreement with France in September 2016 for the procurement of 36 Rafale fighter jets at a cost of around ₹ 59,000 crore.

The first batch of five Rafale jets, manufactured by French aerospace major Dassault Aviation, arrived in India on July 29 last year.

The French minister also referred to India's planned induction of a second aircraft carrier and indicated that France will be interested to supply the carrier-based jets.

"We know that the aircraft carrier will soon be (there)...that aircraft are needed. We are open and ready to provide any other Rafale if this is India's decision," she said.

India's first home-made aircraft carrier (IAC) Vikrant is scheduled to be inducted into the Indian Navy by August next year.


In her comments, Ms Parly said France and India are both "viscerally committed" to national sovereignty and independence.

"I think that our industrial partnership is proof of that. France, more than any other country, understands the necessity of the Indian content. And we are fully committed to the 'Make in India' initiative, as well as to the further integration of Indian manufacturers into our global supply chains," she said.

Ms Parly said 'Make in India' has been a reality for the French industry for several years, particularly for defence equipment such as submarines.

Later, the French Defence Minister held wide-ranging talks with her Indian counterpart, Rajnath Singh, with a focus on further enhancing bilateral defence and security cooperation between the two countries.

The defence and strategic ties between India and France have been on an upswing over the last few years.

It is learnt that France was pitching for starting negotiations for procurement of another batch of 36 Rafale jets by India.

The Rafale jets are India's first major acquisition of fighter planes in 23 years after the Sukhoi jets were imported from Russia.

The Rafale jets are capable of carrying a range of potent weapons. European missile maker MBDA's Meteor beyond visual range air-to-air missile and Scalp cruise missile will be the mainstay of the weapons package of the Rafale jets.

Meteor is a next-generation beyond visual range air-to-air missile (BVRAAM) designed to revolutionise air-to-air combat.

 
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Always the ideal fit and would help reduce logistics and training costs across both service arms - IF they are interested in doing that.

I guess - if India gets a confidence in guaranteed veto in UN from France, then lot can change. The key is alignment between the two countries to get confidence on veto.

I believe - India will keep Russia + France happy for foreseeable future.
 
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Rafale will never fit in IAC-I’s lift, Rafale-M does not even have foldable wings.
 
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Rafale will never fit in IAC-I’s lift, Rafale-M does not even have foldable wings.
What are the dimensions vs the Rafale's wingspan?
I guess - if India gets a confidence in guaranteed veto in UN from France, then lot can change. The key is alignment between the two countries to get confidence on veto.

I believe - India will keep Russia + France happy for foreseeable future.
The french will do it if the quantity is tied to another IAF purchase or other hardware.
 
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What are the dimensions vs the Rafale's wingspan?

The french will do it if the quantity is tied to another IAF purchase or other hardware.

Actually yes and no. The Rafale M would definitely fit on its lift. The lift designed is pretty huge.

The problem is the hangers, taxi pathways etc have been designed with folded Mig 29k in mind. And redesigning multiple floors of the ship associated with aeronautical maintenance and stuffs is going to cost a bomb.
 
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The lifts and storage were designed to take TERF. It involves minimum restructuring to hold and lift Rafale M. TERF dimensions makes it slightly larger than the folding wing F18 Hornet.

HAL's proposed TERF

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Actually yes and no. The Rafale M would definitely fit on its lift. The lift designed is pretty huge.

The problem is the hangers, taxi pathways etc have been designed with folded Mig 29k in mind. And redesigning multiple floors of the ship associated with aeronautical maintenance and stuffs is going to cost a bomb.
That is short sighted.
 
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Coconut will be supplied by srilanka?

Jokes aside, india should go for it

Mig 29 they use on the ACC is old now.
 
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Coconut will be supplied by srilanka?

Jokes aside, india should go for it

Mig 29 they use on the ACC is old now.
I think when Vikrant was first designed, only Mig29K was considered. So right now, no other planes are qualified.
 
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I think when Vikrant was first designed, only Mig29K was considered. So right now, no other planes are qualified.

Not really. India's design mostly revolves around delta-wing design concepts. The planned TEDBF/TERF aircraft is also going to be that. Whether it is Rafale M or this, it remains to be seen though the Navy is keen to go for a new design and utilize the learnings from other technology demonstrators that were developed during the Tejas-Navy program.
 
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