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Poor PAF. Went to the Chinese to learn about self sufficiency, instead were taught a valuable lesson in hollow promises and being dependent on the Chinese. Still denying this. Now running around to other countries to salvage JF-17 and keep it competitive against evolving threats. What a sad waste of money. This is turning out to be a patch-work quilt or some sort of aviation Jambalaya.
It's the other way around, exactly because Pak Fa made its first flight now, these fighters are out soon!In the Indian MMRCA competition, Rafale is at the bottom on the line which is lead by Typhoon and Mig-35. It will take them some doing to piss the Russians off especially when they have the first PAK-FA gone out to trials. I dont see Rafale in India. Just my opinion though.
Imo IAF searches for different fighters, with supplementing capabilities to MKI and Pak Fa, but many people still prefers EF, or Mig. That is also a point at many pakistani members that I don't understand. Why so many want UAEs Mirage 2000-9, when the same systems and weapons, could be available for JF 17, which imo is also meant for the same role and should offer similar capabilities, if not better right?
Kharian Beast
My brother, I think that is an unfair statement and unlike you . perhaps you know something that we dont, in which case we can all keep quiet, but my information is to the contrary.
The delays if any have been on PAFs side not on PLAAF's side, so even though we ahd prototype 4 take flight in 2004-5, we did not start production till 2009. You cant blame the chinese for that.
If you look at other planes of similar size,you will find Thunder to be a fairly competitive both price wise and capability wise.
Technologically also this has not been a bad bargain for PAF. It has allowed them to finally have a plane that they can do what they please with without sanctions or fears of being out of the boundarieds of their contract. It will give them even in its current configuration, without any of these proposed changes, a plane competing with the best that the region has.
thge last problem is the engine which really remains the last bugbear in the whole conundrum and a big one!! I will gladly accept thatthis is the Achilles heel of the whole plan. However , we all understand that the chinese have made some progress and even though the problem is not resolved, i see a glimmer of light at the end of the tunnel.
JF17 like all of PAF's endeavours was a story of great compromise in adversity and it , in my humble opinion has worked out quite well under the circumstances
In any case what alternate solution did you have in your mind.
1 billion euros plz stop wasting our money for such toys, why we compete with india, we are not controlling our internal situation who we compete with india
"In close combat the JF-17 excels at being truly agile and responsive to the pilot's commands."
..."But everything else is sh**"
This is not World War 2 where being a good dog fighter wins engagements.
Let me try...