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but but europe is demo(n)cracy... but but turkey and russians are authoritarian states that censor protests
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You think a developed Turkey of 2030 with 100 million population and full ability to make nearly everything themselves will care what others think?
Why try to delay the inevitable and that is total Turkish domination of the Eastern Mediterranean? It is Turkey's natural backyard after-all.
Greece is not worth anything to be honest. They are just lazy and corrupt people and the ancient Greeks will be rolling in their graves at what their descendants have become.
We don't already expect much from our closest usless European partners yet what would/should we expect from Turkey ?
Why is France getting involved here?
It is not like a few French ships will make Turkey back down that has a huge and expanding superiority over Greece.
Erdoğan is acting like an Ottoman sultan picking fights with Syria, Libya, Saudi Arabia, America, Germany, Greece, Cyprus and this new one with France.
Greece is a member of European Union and what is good for Greece is good for EU therefore France has my support. Turkey is lone wolf on international stage because of Erdoğan's foolish policies. Turkey never signed United Nations Convention on Law of Sea whilst France and Greece have. France has every right to be in the eastern Mediterranean to support Greece and make sure this mad Erdoğan doesn't start another war.
Macron always clashes with Trump but Trump has a point. European powers have been ignoring their joint defense for a long time. With Britian out of the picture, France has to step up and push others to take active roles. Erdoğan and Putin are strongmen and they will not understand diplomacy.
It will make turkey back down. Turkey navy is no matched for French Navy. French will ask US not to further support and supply Turkish navy. Their warship still need US mark 41 VLS system and LM2500 gas turbine engine.Why is France getting involved here?
It is not like a few French ships will make Turkey back down that has a huge and expanding superiority over Greece.
French will ask US not to further support and supply Turkish navy.
It will make turkey back down. Turkey navy is no matched for French Navy. French will ask US not to further support and supply Turkish navy. Their warship still need US mark 41 VLS system and LM2500 gas turbine engine.
Will mark this post and see the outcome few months later.How many ships got sent and Turkey has still not backed down. Even if you Chinese came to the East Med, Turkey will still not back down.
If that would had been the case then Pakistani Navy would back down too against Indian Aircraft Carrier with Mig29Ks on topAs if the French navy with aircraft carrier and rafale fighter jets will back down against turkey navy with just few second hand Oliver Perry class frigate.
Will mark this post and see the outcome few months later.
As if the French navy with aircraft carrier and rafale fighter jets will back down against turkey navy with just few second hand Oliver Perry class frigate.
indians with stupid comments, you should stay in india and start toilet projects.
Germany and Italy will supported their Christian brother of French to beat the Muslim turkey. No offence, this is true alliance in the real world.I hope french get a beating by germany or italy soon. They are really nosy . No wonder americans hate them so much.
We pakistaniz support turkey.
Serious questions to the French.
Rhetorical to a degree.
First serious question.
What the heck does Greece vs Turkey have to do with you?
Seriously. Two NATO allies arguing. Yet you take sides.
Second question...assuming it has anything to do with you (for argument's sake; of course it doesn't, beyond the crusades), why take Greece's side and not Turkey's? Pragmatically, economically it might be more beneficial to take Turkey's side....but you can't do that, because of the crusades right?
When will France actually grow up and realise the crusades are finished?
You're allowed to take Turkey's side against Greece,believe it or not, especially if you feel it may benefit your country. Be at peace with this reality. I know it's hard because of the crusades and you must keep fighting against the mohamedans or Turks or Saracens and Constantinople is unfinished business and oh the Hagia Sofia being in Turkey probably makes France sad and lamentful. I understand your situation...but just once, dear France, try to understand that there is more to the human experience than living out and fighting the crusades every minute of your existence.
They're all dead -Saladin, Richard, Guy,Balian. Stuff the crusades. Forget about Constantinople. Learn to live with Turkey and respect them as equals, instead of automatically siding against them because the crusades told you to.
France is the most visibly and blatantly extremist christian nation in the world today because of its obsession with crusading. France truly only cares about wars or conflicts where crusader objectives are at stake. Wherever in the world some crusader objective is available, France will suddenly pop up.....Greece and Kurds being the notable recent examples.
The hypocrisy to France's stated values of secularism, equality, liberty is stunning. Mind blowing.
France repeatedly blocks discussion on the liberty of Kashmiris - I mean basic liberty to criticise the Indian government, to have an elected parliament of kashmiri choosing, to have internet and right of assembly and right of protest....France, a self styled guardian of such values, will support fascist India in suppression of the same values. Why?
Crusades are what actually matters to France, not this fraud that you sing about secularism, egalite, liberte, fraternite etc. Load of rubbish.
Secularism?? Where?
Turkish are brave people. They even did't hesitate to shot down Russia fighter. If france do mistake, turkey will teach them lesson.