France starts ban on full-face veil

[Burnz]

When you are in their country, you should obey their laws.

Do not like that??? Go home. Nobody begs you to stay there.

Exactly.

What rights do Non-Muslims in Muslim Countries have Compared to Muslims have in Non-Muslim Countries?

Answer this. .

 

[Raja.Pakistani]

I think this is the faith of the Catholicism, whereas the Protestantism is somewhat different.

True but majority catholic are the ones who practice their religion

 

[53fd]

Why don't Burka clad women cover their eyes as well? After all, the eyes are a symbol of beauty as well. Being naked in public here in the US is unlawful, what's wrong with Burka being banned? A lot of women think that the Burka represents Islamic identity, I don't think it does. I find it offensive to think that Islam would not allow women to breathe freely from the air in the surroundings, & would impose covering their mouth & nose to make it hard for them to breathe. This is not what Islam is about in my opinion. Many women become even more resilient when they feel the world is against them & the way they dress.

Many women use the Burka as a means of combating perceived "suppression", discrimination that they face from society for the way they dress or who they are, for asserting an individualistic identity. And these are wrong motives to be observing head cover in my opinion. It's not about being resilient to others that don't approve of your actions, Islam encourages Muslims to integrate well into society & being useful & valuable citizens than sticking out like sore thumbs. The Burka does that: it isolates women & confines them to themselves, & makes them stick out like sore thumbs in public.

 

[Raja.Pakistani]

Exactly.

What rights do Non-Muslims in Muslim Countries have Compared to Muslims have in Non-Muslim Countries?

Answer this. .

This question has been answered before

Why you feel the need to compare "theocratic" state with "secular state" when they are two totally different form of Government. Let me tell you how

Theocratic State: Religion play an important role in Government decisions. Most laws of state derive from religious scripture of local peoples. Islamic state will be based on Islamic principles

Secular state Religion don't play any role in government decision. Peoples can practice their religion in their private day to day lives but Government will not use any religious scripture to make laws for its peoples. Secular state will be based on secular principles.

Now question arise : Is France a secular state or theocratic state? If they claim to be secular then then they should have secular laws and these laws give freedom to peoples to practice their religion in their private life as long as they don't hurt any other member of the society. Most western Government claim that Saudia government don't give right to women to wear Bikini and bra in public and they oppress women with their Islamic concept of modesty but then they go and do the same by taking away the right of women to wear niqab.

If these different government doing the same thing then they should not preach that western secular government give women more rights as compare to theocratic state. I am not talking about just wearing niqab but they should also allow Christian to wear cross as it dont hurt anyone else

Perhaps all the objections pertaining to a Muslim woman's veil have more to do with the beholders' mental attitude than with actual practical problems pertaining to mobility and comfort?

You, as a beholder, do not have to understand why the Muslim woman chooses to wear the veil, you do not have to accept it, you do not even have to agree to it, what you can do, though, is to respect her decision, her choice, to dress the way she does. Perhaps then we all can live and let live, in mutual peace and harmony, in this world : )

 

[Burnz]

This question has been answered before

Why you feel the need to compare "theocratic" state with "secular state" when they are two totally different form of Government. Let me tell you how

Theocratic State: Religion play an important role in Government decisions. Most laws of state derive from religious scripture of local peoples. Islamic state will be based on Islamic principles

Secular state Religion don't play any role in government decision. Peoples can practice their religion in their private day to day lives but Government will not use any religious scripture to make laws for its peoples. Secular state will be based on secular principles.

Now question arise : Is France a secular state or theocratic state? If they claim to be secular then then they should have secular laws and these laws give freedom to peoples to practice their religion in their private life as long as they don't hurt any other member of the society. Most western Government claim that Saudia government don't give right to women to wear Bikini and bra in public and they oppress women with their Islamic concept of modesty but then they go and do the same by taking away the right of women to wear niqab.

If these different government doing the same thing then they should not preach that western secular government give women more rights as compare to theocratic state. I am not talking about just wearing niqab but they should also allow Christian to wear cross as it dont hurt anyone else

Perhaps all the objections pertaining to a Muslim woman's veil have more to do with the beholders' mental attitude than with actual practical problems pertaining to mobility and comfort?

You, as a beholder, do not have to understand why the Muslim woman chooses to wear the veil, you do not have to accept it, you do not even have to agree to it, what you can do, though, is to respect her decision, her choice, to dress the way she does. Perhaps then we all can live and let live, in mutual peace and harmony, in this world : )

Exactly.

An Immigrant from a Theocratic States should consider it a Privilege to be in a Secular Society. They need to Respect the Laws and live According to the Wishes of the People of the Land!

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This question has been answered before

Why you feel the need to compare "theocratic" state with "secular state" when they are two totally different form of Government. Let me tell you how

Theocratic State: Religion play an important role in Government decisions. Most laws of state derive from religious scripture of local peoples. Islamic state will be based on Islamic principles

Secular state Religion don't play any role in government decision. Peoples can practice their religion in their private day to day lives but Government will not use any religious scripture to make laws for its peoples. Secular state will be based on secular principles.

Now question arise : Is France a secular state or theocratic state? If they claim to be secular then then they should have secular laws and these laws give freedom to peoples to practice their religion in their private life as long as they don't hurt any other member of the society. Most western Government claim that Saudia government don't give right to women to wear Bikini and bra in public and they oppress women with their Islamic concept of modesty but then they go and do the same by taking away the right of women to wear niqab.

If these different government doing the same thing then they should not preach that western secular government give women more rights as compare to theocratic state. I am not talking about just wearing niqab but they should also allow Christian to wear cross as it dont hurt anyone else

Perhaps all the objections pertaining to a Muslim woman's veil have more to do with the beholders' mental attitude than with actual practical problems pertaining to mobility and comfort?

You, as a beholder, do not have to understand why the Muslim woman chooses to wear the veil, you do not have to accept it, you do not even have to agree to it, what you can do, though, is to respect her decision, her choice, to dress the way she does. Perhaps then we all can live and let live, in mutual peace and harmony, in this world : )

Exactly.

An Immigrant from a Theocratic States should consider it a Privilege to be in a Secular Society. They need to Respect the Laws and live According to the Wishes of the People of the Land! .

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Exactly.

An Immigrant from a Theocratic States should consider it a Privilege to be in a Secular Society. They need to Respect the Laws and live According to the Wishes of the People of the Land!

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Exactly.

An Immigrant from a Theocratic States should consider it a Privilege to be in a Secular Society. They need to Respect the Laws and live According to the Wishes of the People of the Land! .

Illegal Laws tht violate ur own privacy or legal human right?Either the so called secular society is f...ked up or the guys who made em r.

 

[ARSENAL6]

Exactly.

An Immigrant from a Theocratic States should consider it a Privilege to be in a Secular Society. They need to Respect the Laws and live According to the Wishes of the People of the Land!

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Exactly.

An Immigrant from a Theocratic States should consider it a Privilege to be in a Secular Society. They need to Respect the Laws and live According to the Wishes of the People of the Land! .

Dude no one forced them to live in these theocratic state but the west seem to force Muslims to live in Europe, Canada and the US
by:
1) Invading and bombing in their country see ho many Iraq and Afgan came after the War
2) Starving them by taking thier resources
3) Starting political unrest

I don't see Muslim coming into the west with STealth bomber and tanks
so your aguement is pretty muted.

 

[ARSENAL6]

Mind your spelling first.

Mind your English comprehension first. His spelling is fine but your English comprehension is crap !
Its kinda funny when people like ephone shout on others on how bad other people spellings are and when they themselves know nothing about English - LOL


Here is the original post by Raja.Pakistani

Ephone go pick fight somewhere else. You cannot argument with mature peoples

When you are in their country, you should obey their laws.

Do not like that??? Go home. Nobody begs you to stay there.

Really can you tell the rest of ex patriates who are from the US that are living in Saudi to go cus they are not following the law - drinking alcohol and such. Or what about the British that go to spain run it as if they are in England council estates should they go because they are not following the law by getting themseves drunk and causeing havof on the streets of spain.

 

[Raja.Pakistani]

Exactly.
An Immigrant from a Theocratic States should consider it a Privilege to be in a Secular Society. They need to Respect the Laws and live According to the Wishes of the People of the Land!

We respect their laws. We are talking about law of secular Country which is being violated with this ban

I think no one answer my question that what trouble peoples faced in France because of veil before implementation of this ban?

What danger veil bring to french society? Why they are feeling threatened with piece of clothe?

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Mind your English comprehension first. His spelling is fine but your English comprehension is crap !
Its kinda funny when people like ephone shout on others on how bad other people spellings are and when they themselves know nothing about English - LOL

He has all the traits of bigotry of an angry white man, except his skin is yellow.

 

[JanjaWeed]

bad move by french govt. this is a classic case of reverse secularism. it's only done to please the right wing nationalists, which is an insidious & dangerous practice which will result in greater radicalisation of muslim community in france! french govt has to stop this dangerous & subversive trend, otherwise you will see more & more young women in veils, burkhas than before & they will isolate theselves from rest of the population. this can not be good at all for france as a country!!

 

[ARSENAL6]

He has all the traits of bigotry of an angry white man, except his skin is yellow.

LMAO

Good one !

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

LMAO

Good one !

This is the trait of some Chinese people who suffer with the inferiority complex.

We call them banana, because they are yellow outside, but white inside.

These people have desperatedly sought the acceptance from the white people, and looking down towards their fellow countrymen and other group of non-white people will make them feel better.

 

[ARSENAL6]

This is the trait of some Chinese people who suffer with the inferiority complex.

We call them banana, because they are yellow outside, but white inside.

These people have desperatedly sought the acceptance from the white people, and looking down towards their fellow countrymen and other group of non-white people will make them feel better.

Dude you're crackng me up ! But seriously lets not steep down to his level if he wants to be racist let him the mods will get him. I don't want you to be ban by fools such as him

 

[53fd]

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