France offers Greece anti-aircraft and anti-submarine frigates free of charge in new deal

[SD 10]

Wonder what really happened to french during this past decade...... Trying to piss everybody off just to sell some arms?

 

[Muhammed45]

waste of money and pathetic dreams
....... Nobody can match with Turkish miillitary power in the region



Only Turkish UCAVs will be enough to destroy Greek+Egyptian Navies combined , if they enter Turkish EEZ to fight against Turkey


Greek and Egyptian Frigates armed with SAMs with range of 30-50 km

good luck to Greek and Egyptian Frigates ... They will need it



AKINCI UCAV

Max speed : 360 km/h
Combat range : 2.000+ km
Payload : 1350 kg
Endurance : 24 hours
Service ceiling : 40.000 feet

-- AESA Radar
-- SATCOM
-- Electronic Data Gathering ( ELINT / COMINT )
-- 6 multi-core Artificial Intelligence Computers

-- 280 km SOM-C anti ship missile to hit even moving Warships
-- 74/110 km KUZGUN joint attack Bomb with IIR seeker to hit even moving Warships
-- 150+ km KGK-LR glide Bomb with IIR seeker to hit even moving Warships
-- 100/150 km MRASHM anti ship missile to hit even moving Warships
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AKINCI UCAV will carry AESA Radar and 280km SOM-C network enabled anti-ship Missile
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even 10 AKINCI UCAVs can carry 60 KUZGUN joint strike ammunitions for swarm attack on Frigates

60 KUZGUN joint strike ammunitions = $6 million
FREMM Frigate : $500 million

KUZGUN joint strike ammunition with IR seeker ,Data Link ( Low operation cost )

• Weight : 100 kg
• Warhead : 25-60 kg
• Range : 74-110 km

to hit even moving Warships
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btw how can Greek Navy intercept 1.000+ anti-ship missiles HARPOON , SLAM-ER , MRASHM , SOM and ATMACA ?

also Turkey can produce hundreds of TRLG-230 , KGK-LR , KUZGUN guided ammunitions for swarm attack on Greek Frigates

also , Turkey develops RAMJET powered supersonic anti-ship missile and anti-ship Ballistic Missile based on BORA



little Greece and pathetic France still dreaming about to match with regional power Turkey

Why you replying me dude? I'm not a Greece sympathizer.

 

[313ghazi]

France Offers Greece Anti-aircraft And Anti-submarine Frigates Free Of Charge In New Deal – Greek City Times

France has offered to give the Greek navy two first-class frigates, the "Jean Bart" (anti-aircraft warfare) and the "Latouche-Tréville" (anti-submarine

greekcitytimes.com

It seems France is arming Greece against Turkey.

The new may be true, but the site is a fake news website.

 

[T-SaGe]

Wonder what really happened to french during this past decade...... Trying to piss everybody off just to sell some arms?

Contrary to the propaganda activities here, there are signals of normalization between Turkey and France. In fact, just the other day, a discussion program was carried out in state owned channel where Sarkozy and Macron were speakers. They tried to give clear message that all problems between Turkey and France can be overcome, and Macron said that Turkish public was actually very misinformed about him and described himself as beeing of friend of Turks. Sarkozy on the other side, defended his stance about being opposes Turkey's EU membership by portrayed himself as person of honesty, friendly, or something... Both politicians also repeatedly stressed the strategic partnership with Turkey matter anyway. However, of course, French theses were defended by bringing to the forefront in orientalist and protectionist discourses as if there was a growing threat of Islam in France.

Turkey's national interests in the Mediterranean, Africa and in the Balkans-Black Sea-Caucasus axle are in conflict with the French interests. Unless the two states develop a correct negotiation method and become parallel to each other, these conflict areas will continue to exist. Some of these problems are historical and have a history that is more than a hundred years old. Some are related to Turkey's new concept that expand its domain and setup new outer circle for defending homeland.

However, the conflict areas between the two countries cannot turn into a full and comprehensive struggle. Because there are many preventive mechanisms, especially economic relations, NATO and European common institutions. This is why France continues its tendency to test Turkish resistance by putting forward proxies and pawns on the field.

 

[KurtisBrian]

Since France has decided to arm those supposed "Greeks", France should get the same treatment as this modern "Greece".

 

[T-SaGe]

In the last 30-years, Greece is traditionally linked to the German arms industry, especially in naval platform planning and logistics. As second-hand military sales or grant programs, the US is always at the forefront for a half-century. Trying to describe all of France's attempts to change this equation only over the Turkey-Greece-axis is requires that being extremely superficial and unaware of regional balances.

edit: Hah, almost I forgot again. Another irony is that no one discussing the truth of news or how the source's reliable. However, according to Greek media or some military forums, they have been buying these frigates for years. In the current situation, they will still get...

 

[UKBengali]

another Chinese Guy who knowns nothing about Turkish military power



Greek F35s will be destroyed by the Turkish Armed Forces great missile fire power even in Jet Hangars

all Greek Airbases - Jet Hangars are in range of Turkish Missiles

-- 360 km BORA Tactical Ballistic Missile
-- 280 km SOM air launched Cruise Missile .. ( with indigenous engine - range of 500+ km )
-- 250 km ATMACA land based Cruise Missile
-- 1.000+ km KARGI kamikaze Drone


Rafale and F35 are crap of metal in a war against regional power Turkey

Turkey can produce thousands of TRLG-230 , TRG-300 , J600T , BORA , KGK-LR , KUZGUN , KARGI , HISAR , MRASHM , SOM and ATMACA to destroy all military targets in Greece and Greek Islands within a day

even I am not talking about hundreds of ATACMS , HARPY , JSOW , HARM , AIM-120C7 , SM1-MR , ESSM , HARPOON , POPEYE , SLAM-ER and S400





BTW , Turkey doesnt need F-35 which is full of shit with many problems

even UK reportedly to cut F-35 order by 65% from 138 to 48


by 2023 , Turkish MIUS jet engine powered stealth UCAV to carry AESA Radar and 280 km SOM Cruise Missiles with land attack and anti-ship capabilities

Some points:


1. UK is likely to finally order maybe as low as 70 or a maximum of 100 F-35Bs out of a planned 148 due to wanting to invest in the Tempest 6th gen fighter programme. The F-35B is a very good fighter, especially its radar which was so much better than the Eurofighter's Captor-E Mk 0, that the UK are developing the more advanced Mk 2 version for depoyment around 2025 on their Tranche 4 aircraft.

2. Even a single squadron of 18 F-35s when combined with the 18 Rafale's(AESA radar + Meteor BVR missile) that the Greeks already have on order will give the Greek air-force the upper hand over Turkish air-force. The Turkish F-16Cs just won't be able to compete with their AIM-120C7s and the mechanical radars they have. Turkey will soon have their own AESA radar ready but this is unlikely to be as good as the Rafale radar, let alone the F-35s.


In essence, France arming Greece should be really good for the Turkish military as it will propel Turkish defence industry to greater heights and I look forward to the TF-X 5th gen fighter flying with the TAF and other friendly Muslim airforces in the 2030s.

 

[MMM-E]

UK is likely to finally order maybe as low as 70 or a maximum of 100 F-35Bs out of a planned 148 due to wanting to invest in the Tempest 6th gen fighter programme. The F-35B is a very good fighter, especially its radar which was so much better than the Eurofighter's Captor-E Mk 0, that the UK are developing the more advanced Mk 2 version for depoyment around 2025 on their Tranche 4 aircraft.

I am saying again , UK reportedly to cut F-35 order by 65% from 138 to 48

only 48 F-35Bs for 2 Aircraft Carriers , nothing more

UK will focus on UCAV technology ,
because of Turkey has put forward a new military doctrine in the world when Turkey used Drones as primary element in air strikes in Syria

Turkey also develops MIUS jet engine powered UCAV to carry AESA Radar and 275 km SOM-J Cruise Missile for SEAD role

2. Even a single squadron of 18 F-35s when combined with the 18 Rafale's(AESA radar + Meteor BVR missile) that the Greeks already have on order will give the Greek air-force the upper hand over Turkish air-force. The Turkish F-16Cs just won't be able to compete with their AIM-120C7s and the mechanical radars they have. Turkey will soon have their own AESA radar ready but this is unlikely to be as good as the Rafale radar, let alone the F-35s.

You guys can read or what ? I am saying again

in a conflict , hundreds of Turkish BORA , SOM , ATMACA Ballistic/Cruise Missiles will destroy all Greek Rafale - F35 Jets in Jet Hangars within a day

all Greek Airbases , Jet Hangars are in range of Turkish Ballistic/Cruise Missiles


Turkey can turn little Greece into dark age in a conflict .. and still ignorant daydreamers are dreaming about a few Rafale and F-35 Jets

even Turkey doesnt need Airforce to destroy all Greek Airbases , Jet Hangars , Air Defense Systems , military and strategic targets



also Turkey bought S400 Air Defense Systems which can turn Greek Rafale Jets into crap of metal
S400 can block Greek Air Force


also Turkey has great unmanned technologies

Baykar has developed AKINCI UCAV and by 2023 Baykar MIUS jet engine powered UCAV

if Turkey produce 100 MIUS jet engine powered UCAVs to carry AESA Radar and 65 km GOKDOGAN networked air to air missiles ... what can Greece do ?

also Turkey develops AKDOGAN ramjet powered long range air to air missile , similar to METEOR

 

[Beefeatergin]

You forget the economy of Greece vs Turkey. Imagine if Turkey bombs the major areas of Greece, Greece will be forced to back down. The war will be quick for Turkey to give substantial damage to make Greece quit.

Chinese investment in Greece will make it a major trade hub and give it money to purchase a powerful enough military to kick turkeys ***. Russia may supply Greece at a discount since they are orthodox brothers

maybe even in MARS ...


Turkey can turn little Greece into stone age in a war

Now Turkey has Ballistic Missile technology up to 1.000 km to hit even Egypt
Turkish SOM air launched Cruise Missile having range of up to 500 km with indigenous turbojet Engine to hit Egypt
Egypt is not stupid to fight Turkey for Greece


also 800 - 1.400 km Turkish GEZGIN land - naval based Cruise Missile on the way


and Turkey has developed KORKUT 35mm SPAAG with airburst ammunition and HISAR Air Defense System to intercept Cruise Missiles

Greek f 35 can fly deep strike missions over tirkish air space and blow huge parts of tirky to hell while they remain unharmed

 

[SpaceMan18]

Chinese investment in Greece will make it a major trade hub and give it money to purchase a powerful enough military to kick turkeys ***. Russia may supply Greece at a discount since they are orthodox brothers

Greek f 35 can fly deep strike missions over tirkish air space and blow huge parts of tirky to hell while they remain unharmed

Lmao Greece is done with their crappy economy , and plus you're and Indian troll with a Chinese flag so quit your antics Pajeet no one's falling for it

 

[Vapnope]

Chinese investment in Greece will make it a major trade hub and give it money to purchase a powerful enough military to kick turkeys ***. Russia may

"Will make it"
So far Greece is living paycheck to paycheck. Any more hostility and no one would want to invest in a country which is going to get bombed by her neighbor. All these free weapons will end up in junk yard if expensive RMOs and spares are not bought from the sellers.

 

[Beefeatergin]

Lmao Greece is done with their crappy economy , and plus you're and Indian troll with a Chinese flag so quit your antics Pajeet no one's falling for it

Wasn’t you the one who said you don’t have time to talk to me after you and your Indian butt buddy @gulli got butt hurt

"Will make it"
So far Greece is living paycheck to paycheck. Any more hostility and no one would want to invest in a country which is going to get bombed by her neighbor. All these free weapons will end up in junk yard if expensive RMOs and spares are not bought from the sellers.

Greece won’t get bombed by turkey if Greek f 35 premitively blow Istanbul to hell using its stealth advantage

 

[MMM-E]

Greece won’t get bombed by turkey if Greek f 35 premitively blow Istanbul to hell using its stealth advantage

F-35s will be destroyed even in Jet Hangars
and there is no 100% stealth capability


btw 24 F-35s can drop only 24 Bombs on İstanbul
and 24 F-35s can not find an Air Base for landing , because of all Air Bases , Jet Hangars will be destroyed in Greece



on the other hand , Turkey can fire hundreds of BORA , SOM , SLAM-ER , ATMACA Missiles on Athens


if Greece buys 18 Rafales and 24 F-35s , Turks are not sleeping
Turkey can produce even 2.000 BORA , SOM , and ATMACA Missiles and hundreds of KARGI Kamikaze Drones to wipe out all Air Bases , Jet Hangars and Air Defense Systems in Greece within a day


after Missile attack , Turkish Airforce F-16 Fighter Jets , UCAVs easly to rape little Greece with thousands of air lanunched SOM , MRASHM , KUZGUN , KGK-LR , JSOW , NEB , HGK , TEBER


that will be so funny to destroy China's $multi-billion investments in Athens within hours


and without Turkey , China's OBOR project is nothing in middle corridor from Beijing to London ...

 

[fitpOsitive]

France Offers Greece Anti-aircraft And Anti-submarine Frigates Free Of Charge In New Deal – Greek City Times

France has offered to give the Greek navy two first-class frigates, the "Jean Bart" (anti-aircraft warfare) and the "Latouche-Tréville" (anti-submarine

greekcitytimes.com

It seems France is arming Greece against Turkey.

Bill will be paid by Germany? I don't think Germany will give any bail out to Greece for buying French arms in future.

 

[Muhammed45]

Bill will be paid by Germany? I don't think Germany will give any bail out to Greece for buying French arms in future.

I think that Germany has to do it, the papa of Europe
Greece and other EU countries are open markets for German goods.