France, Italy, Denmark back European-led naval mission for Hormuz

[925boy]

They are securing ther money, Europe is one of the biggest oil importer of the world.

the moment Iran "locks" the mouth of the strait, all those ships turn to sitting ducks. Problem is alot of ships dont have operating room in that confined Persian gulf. Thats why that british warship Monrose was afraid to engage the IRGC boats, because they knew they didnt have much room or space to maneuver and not get hit.

so it is not about skin colour. It is about long Anglo-Saxon dominance in Europe. .

Anglo- saxon = white. no? sounds like ur agreeing with him.

 

[Trango Towers]

How can we pakistaniz defuse tension between iran and uk/eu?

Before something bad happens pakistan and turkey should come up with a plan...

Im sure if pakistan was in trouble.. Turkey and iran would try their best to ease off tensions..

Stay out....make weapons that if we get picked on we annihilate them. Peace through strength

 

[mangekyo]

Well, in fact Eastern Europeans are lighter, then Western ones (second only to Scandinavia) so it is not about skin colour. It is about long Anglo-Saxon dominance in Europe. After 1991 they got not only Western Europe but half of Eastern one, too.

In this context, white doesn’t mean having fair skin tone. In that sense, most Iranians are white too. What you call Anglo-Saxon slaves. I call white supremacists. We are talking about the same thing. For instance, even though Scandinavians have their own cultural heritage it’s non existent. Everyone here mimics US. From what they eat, drink, listen to, watch, to what they wear and how they behave. For instance. Norway and Poland are both European countries. But Norwegians feel closer to Americans than Poles.

This guy pretty much sums up what I’m trying to say

 

[vostok]

In this context, white doesn’t mean having fair skin tone. In that sense, most Iranians are white too. What you call Anglo-Saxon slaves. I call white supremacists. We are talking about the same thing. For instance, even though Scandinavians have their own cultural heritage it’s non existent. Everyone here mimics US. From what they eat, drink, listen to, watch, to what they wear and how they behave. For instance. Norway and Poland are both European countries. But Norwegians feel closer to Americans than Poles.

This guy pretty much sums up what I’m trying to say

Corvin Mikke is one of a few sane politicians of Poland and Europarliament. Most of Western Europeans lost or loosing their national identity and become some kind of second-rate outskirts of US. Quite surprising (for Westerners, not for me), but it is Eastern Europe who save a lot more European Christian roots.
I just want to make clear terminology - European countries reacts in such a way not because they are white supremacists, but because they are heavily influenced by US. It would be quite strange for dark Italians to be white supremacists against light Slavic peoples.

the moment Iran "locks" the mouth of the strait, all those ships turn to sitting ducks. Problem is alot of ships dont have operating room in that confined Persian gulf. Thats why that british warship Monrose was afraid to engage the IRGC boats, because they knew they didnt have much room or space to maneuver and not get hit.


Anglo- saxon = white. no? sounds like ur agreeing with him.

Anglo-Saxon is just part of European civilization, but they want everyone to believe they are European civilization.

 

[Saddam Hussein]

It’s not about the EU. It’s about white supremacy. Notice how quick they were to show support of U.K and condemn us , while not saying a single word when U.K detained our ship.

You're right it is, the European do not see difference between the people in the middle East like we don't care so much about the differences between Danes, Swedes and Poles. That's why we shouldn't work with them against one another, the social image of ours is at stake and has been damaged by all of this. They're enemies, the GCC states shouldn't be working with them either.

 

[zartosht]

Corvin Mikke is one of a few sane politicians of Poland and Europarliament. Most of Western Europeans lost or loosing their national identity and become some kind of second-rate outskirts of US. Quite surprising (for Westerners, not for me), but it is Eastern Europe who save a lot more European Christian roots.
I just want to make clear terminology - European countries reacts in such a way not because they are white supremacists, but because they are heavily influenced by US. It would be quite strange for dark Italians to be white supremacists against light Slavic peoples.

Anglo-Saxon is just part of European civilization, but they want everyone to believe they are European civilization.

you are completely naïve to the backdoor racism in "western" (white non-eastern euro countries) its not the 19th century anymore where being Anglo-Saxon specifically was championed.... now you need "western European" heritage to be part of the "top" class.

china even accused Canada of white supremacism when they arrested a senior Huawei executive to be a pawn for the US, and then claimed "rule of law"..

anything a white country requests becomes a matter of "rule of law" only they have rules and laws. anything else any none western euro oriented nation does is savagery, rogue, dangerous etc.etc….

white enslavement of colored people is brushed off as "colonialism". colonialism isn't even condemned in their history books but seen as a right of passage almost.

they are completely incapable of having any sort of empathy for any non-white nation. they simply do not see them as equal humans.... . it doesn't take a rocket scientists to come to this conclusion based on their behaviour..


they even see Russians and eastern euros as lesser peoples.. the germans even codified that into their policy in ww2. to genocide the eastern "sub humans" for lebenstraum. while never enacting the same policies against western euro states that had fallen.

there is a clear western European bias to everything "Western" countries do. whther its politically, culturally or whatever. you really have to be thick or in denial to not see it at this point

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

you are completely naïve to the backdoor racism in "western" (white non-eastern euro countries) its not the 19th century anymore where being Anglo-Saxon specifically was championed.... now you need "western European" heritage to be part of the "top" class.

china even accused Canada of white supremacism when they arrested a senior Huawei executive to be a pawn for the US, and then claimed "rule of law"..

anything a white country requests becomes a matter of "rule of law" only they have rules and laws. anything else any none western euro oriented nation does is savagery, rogue, dangerous etc.etc….

white enslavement of colored people is brushed off as "colonialism". colonialism isn't even condemned in their history books but seen as a right of passage almost.

they are completely incapable of having any sort of empathy for any non-white nation. they simply do not see them as equal humans.... . it doesn't take a rocket scientists to come to this conclusion based on their behaviour..


they even see Russians and eastern euros as lesser peoples.. the germans even codified that into their policy in ww2. to genocide the eastern "sub humans" for lebenstraum. while never enacting the same policies against western euro states that had fallen.

there is a clear western European bias to everything "Western" countries do. whther its politically, culturally or whatever. you really have to be thick or in denial to not see it at this point

I have yet to see the western societies in a significant way showing any remorse of what their invasions have done to Iraqis, Palestinians, Afghanis, Syrians, Libyans, Somalis, Yemenis, Iranians, Bosnians, and many others in Africa, Asia, South/Central America, and the Caribbean.

There is always excuse for the countless massacres and genocides that happened in those countries as a result of the western invasions or wars inspired, funded, armed, and guided by western societies.

There is a term in western societies which they like to hold onto: "International Order". This order allows them who they invade, sanction, demonize, sabotage, and humiliate. Take for example Libya and Iraq. The governments of both countries complied all of the resolutions of the so-called UNSC - which is an instrument of an "International order". Yet, both nations were invaded, their leaders killed, and millions of people perished, wounded, and orphaned. The tragedies are still on-going.

Just look at the Palestinians. Some group of people from western societies claimed God has given them the land. This group of people claim to be in a "diaspora" for 2,000 years. Well, for the past 2 years, how many empires came and gone? The so-called "international order" allows the indigenous people to get evicted from their ancestral homeland - which they've lived since time memorial - because some group of people had a religious book that tells them God gave them the land. For goodness sake, where have you been the past 2,000 years if God had given you the land? The so-called "international order" is designed to protect the invaders and settlers of this land.

The suffering caused by the so-called "international order" throughout the world is endless.

 

[vi-va]

France, Italy, Denmark back European-led naval mission for Hormuz: diplomats
BRUSSELS (Reuters) - France, Italy, the Netherlands and Denmark support a European-led naval mission to ensure safe shipping through the Strait of Hormuz, three senior EU diplomats said on Tuesday after Britain proposed the idea following Iran’s seizure of a tanker.

Britain proposed the idea to senior EU diplomats at a meeting in Brussels, saying it would not involve the European Union, NATO or the United States directly, the diplomats said.

Spain, Sweden, Poland and Germany also showed interest. The mission to protect vital Middle East oil shipping lanes could be run by a joint Franco-British command, one of the envoys said.

I have different view. I think it's a bad thing for US. It's an European led military mission under the cover of supporting US stance.

US dominate European military affairs for decades, and US is backstabbing European countries right now. European have more and more interest to build a military by themselves instead of NATO.

European have to do it with caution otherwise US will intervene in the name of NATO. Now Iran crisis provide a good excuse, but Trump is blinded.

 

[Mithridates]

I have yet to see the western societies in a significant way showing any remorse of what their invasions have done to Iraqis, Palestinians, Afghanis, Syrians, Libyans, Somalis, Yemenis, Iranians, Bosnians, and many others in Africa, Asia, South/Central America, and the Caribbean.

There is always excuse for the countless massacres and genocides that happened in those countries as a result of the western invasions or wars inspired, funded, armed, and guided by western societies.

There is a term in western societies which they like to hold onto: "International Order". This order allows them who they invade, sanction, demonize, sabotage, and humiliate. Take for example Libya and Iraq. The governments of both countries complied all of the resolutions of the so-called UNSC - which is an instrument of an "International order". Yet, both nations were invaded, their leaders killed, and millions of people perished, wounded, and orphaned. The tragedies are still on-going.

Just look at the Palestinians. Some group of people from western societies claimed God has given them the land. This group of people claim to be in a "diaspora" for 2,000 years. Well, for the past 2 years, how many empires came and gone? The so-called "international order" allows the indigenous people to get evicted from their ancestral homeland - which they've lived since time memorial - because some group of people had a religious book that tells them God gave them the land. For goodness sake, where have you been the past 2,000 years if God had given you the land? The so-called "international order" is designed to protect the invaders and settlers of this land.

The suffering caused by the so-called "international order" throughout the world is endless.

well recent days i discovered a really interesting law of human nature, after British government decided to rob our tanker and we responded i came across funny comments in social media. British users were hesitated about putting the blames on Iran and accusing us with common names like terrorist, savages or other lovely ones, specially after they knew that if they try to miss with us their navy gonna end up with a pain in the back. it's a really amazing phenomena and to me it was unbelievable. they do not consider that maybe we are wrong if the opponent is a weak nation. i hope it open our policy makers and increase our defence budget.

 

[sammuel]

Denmark.....looooool

i have also wondered about that , but i checked and it seems Denmark have been part of task forces in the past :

" Danish Task Group is a unit tasked with commanding, educating and training maritime forces in peace, crisis and war. It is a mobile unit that is experienced in orchestrating exercises, organising insertions (search and rescue, non-combatant evacuation operations, disaster relief operations, etc.) and commanding naval, aerial and land-based units. Danish Task Group was created to expand Denmark's level of competency and quality of material, by participating in international maritime operations. As such Danish Task Group has been commanding combined maritime forces in both exercises (such as BALTOPS and Joint Warrior) and operations (Combined Task Force 150 (2008) and -151 (2012)) a number of times. "

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Danish_Navy#Danish_Task_Group

Combined Task Force 150

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combined_Task_Force_150






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[Mithridates]

You're right it is, the European do not see difference between the people in the middle East like we don't care so much about the differences between Danes, Swedes and Poles. That's why we shouldn't work with them against one another, the social image of ours is at stake and has been damaged by all of this. They're enemies, the GCC states shouldn't be working with them either.

actually i was thinking to the same matter, during Safavids the fear of ottomans pushed us toward Britain, now lets pass a century, Britain cuted of Afghanistan of Iran, caused a huge famine in Iran, humiliated us over our own oil, destroyed our steel industry, manipulated our constitutional revolution and finally destroyed it, captured our islands, orchestrated a coup against our prime minister and so on. while if ottomans one day attacked us they would be pleased and do nothing. this is a historic lesson for any Iranian and anyone from our region.

 

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[Foxtrot Delta]

Off topic: a great idea of creating a joint task force of Turkey and Pakistan Navy. The Turkish and Pakistani frigates' joint arrangements to Africa, latino or Pacific ports, sailing together even once a year to show the flag, will allow us to deepen our friendship.

We have no bussiness in africa or pacific. Though joint patrols in atabian sea, persian Gulf red sea and turkish Mediterranean sea is plausible. If only was not in deep shit we could include them too.

Anywys its off topic.. I hope chinese pakistaniz and turks can some how defuse trnsions. Perhaps russia too.

How come shupa power india is so quiet and not trying to ease tensions for the sake of Iran a good partner of theirs. Seems we pakistaniz care alpt more about iran than say anyone else. Perhaps turks do too.

 

[vi-va]

We have no bussiness in africa or pacific. Though joint patrols in atabian sea, persian Gulf red sea and turkish Mediterranean sea is plausible. If only was not in deep shit we could include them too.

Anywys its off topic.. I hope chinese pakistaniz and turks can some how defuse trnsions. Perhaps russia too.

How come shupa power india is so quiet and not trying to ease tensions for the sake of Iran a good partner of theirs. Seems we pakistaniz care alpt more about iran than say anyone else. Perhaps turks do too.

We have no problems with any countries especially remote countries such as Turkey as long as our sovereignty is respected.

 

[sammuel]

" for them beating woman is normal " says the mullah to a crowd of woman dressed in Batman costumes.

" They have a wild nature " ... " they kill easily and commit murder in cold blood ".

Putting aside the racist nature of his words i would just remind Mr Supreme " leader " that he and the others mullahs are directly responsible for the bloodiest war in the middle east in the last 100 years.

It is true that Sadam , being a butcher , was the one that started the war. But the responsibility that it lasted for 8 years lays in the hands of the mullahs.

Iran could have easily stopped the war after two years. There was a ceasefire agreement on the table. But Mr Ayatollah Khomeini rejected it. He his " great vision " was that the blood of the martyrs would serve as good fuel for his Islamic revolution.

So the war continued for another 6 long years. Most of the casualties of that war where in those 6 years. The war ended with the sides holding more or less the same lines that they held 6 years before. Most of the casualties where in those 6 years.

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