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Iran's level of interference now looks like nothing compared to Turkey's, the latter is not sanctioned by the west and is not expecting a US strike of course. Turkey has far more feeling of safety to do what they do.

Its ironic how western interference doesnt even look like interference to u ppl anymore. its like yeah we r their slaves n they can do watever they wish but hey how dare Turkey try to protect others.
 
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Its ironic how western interference doesnt even look like interference to u ppl anymore. its like yeah we r their slaves n they can do watever they wish but hey how dare Turkey try to protect others.

'Protect others' hehe

If there is any Muslim country that has resisted Western interference/hegemony it would have been certain Arab states. Not to forget the 70's oil crisis which Saudi Arabia took a heavy hand in.

This is why the US attacks a number of Arab states. Turkey did not resist the US, Iran was America's buddy till 1979 and Pakistan well look at your air force inventory and that pretty much sums it up.

Not sure what it is with Pakistanis always looking to side with a foreign actor, 10 years ago you guys were strongly with Saudi Arabia, today you do it with Turkey. Try to get rid of this bad habit.

Try again.
 
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Its ironic how western interference doesnt even look like interference to u ppl anymore. its like yeah we r their slaves n they can do watever they wish but hey how dare Turkey try to protect others.
We factor that in, it was Western interference that caused Iran and Turkey to get involved but they are long gone in Syria, and Iraq. They are still 10 times better than Turkey, or Iran could ever be.
 
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The Turks are being hated more by Arabs that don't hate Iran as much for example some Saudis do like Egyptians for example. I would rather allow Assad to be armed with weapons that can hurt Turkey severely should the need arise. UAE was trying to give him 3 billion for a Idlib offensive to harm Turkey.

That's what arabs have done all their life. Arm iraq to take iran, put iraq infront of the truck, arm rebels against assad, then arm asad against Turkey. Arming here and there using free oil money, creating discord among muslims. Trying to be wicked untill it all backfires spectacularly.
 
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We factor that in, it was Western interference that caused Iran and Turkey to get involved but they are long gone in Syria, and Iraq. They are still 10 times better than Turkey, or Iran could ever be.

That's what the Erdofanboy doesn't understand.

There are almost no daily traces of America in Baghdad today. However Iran has made its way in with its retarded backward culture thanks to America's invasion.

Maybe the US would do us a favor to blow Khamenei off the map as well after Soleimani, they never finish the job.
 
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put iraq infront of the truck
It was the king of Kuwait who started this whole thing, if he had not bitched Saddam would have never have invaded and the Arab world would have been a lot better.
arm rebels against assad
Yeah that was shortsighted, I agree but they have now become a merc army of the Turks.
then arm asad against Turkey
Total lie, can you prove this whatsoever?
 
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'Protect others' hehe

If there is any Muslim country that has resisted Western interference/hegemony it would have been certain Arab states. Not to forget the 70's oil crisis which Saudi Arabia took a heavy hand in.

This is why the US attacks a number of Arab states. Turkey did not resist the US, Iran was America's buddy till 1979 and Pakistan well look at your air force inventory and that pretty much sums it up.

Not sure what it is with Pakistanis always looking to side with a foreign actor, 10 years ago you guys were strongly with Saudi Arabia, today you do it with Turkey. Try to get rid of this bad habit.

Try again.
If there is any Muslim country that has resisted Western interference/hegemony it would have been certain Arab states

This part made me laugh so hard :lol:
First of all one step of showoff defiance in 70s is all u got lolz. Also that man who showed defiance is long gone. Policies are changed now and even israel is loved. Afyer facing defeat in arab israel wars, seems arabs have totally given up to west. US attacked a number of arab states with help of other arab states, we know who hekoed who in both invasions of iraq. Western military bases, western firms n all that shows it clearly.
Pakistan also been US ally but we never totally surrendered or never compromised our rules for them. Even they ban tjmjeir weapons on us. Also our relationship with Turkey is as old as with saudi. We r democratic and have our opinions and views n show them openly. Im sure u ppl dnt know much abt it, been living in dictatorships since forever.
 
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Maybe the US would do us a favor to blow Khamenei off the map as well after Soleimani, they never finish the job.
You know, in the past Arab leaders like Sadat had good relations with the Shah of Iran. I was thinking hypothetically if the leader of Iran ever becomes secular could a relationship form that would be good between Arab countries and Iran?
 
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We factor that in, it was Western interference that caused Iran and Turkey to get involved but they are long gone in Syria, and Iraq. They are still 10 times better than Turkey, or Iran could ever be.

See 10 times better. Admit it u guys just love the white guy.
 
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If there is any Muslim country that has resisted Western interference/hegemony it would have been certain Arab states

This part made me laugh so hard :lol:
First of all one step of showoff defiance in 70s is all u got lolz. Also that man who showed defiance is long gone. Policies are changed now and even israel is loved. Afyer facing defeat in arab israel wars, seems arabs have totally given up to west. US attacked a number of arab states with help of other arab states, we know who hekoed who in both invasions of iraq. Western military bases, western firms n all that shows it clearly.
Pakistan also been US ally but we never totally surrendered or never compromised our rules for them. Even they ban tjmjeir weapons on us. Also our relationship with Turkey is as old as with saudi. We r democratic and have our opinions and views n show them openly. Im sure u ppl dnt know much abt it, been living in dictatorships since forever.

In your brain Arab equals GCC. Iraq, Egypt, Syria are all part of the Arab world.

The US never needed anything from Pakistan to start with, you don't have oil/gas. They just armed you to counter-balance India and that's about it. You have a very large population and they're more interested in you managing your people, putting down some extremist groups and that's where it ends.

Much of the Arab world's defiance against the west was taken by working with the USSR. Once the Soviets fell the western world's military and economic superiority was hard to resist, and those that did faced military consequences which Iraq is a clear example of. Iran has been hiding quietly for decades and they're fragile, Turkey is not resisting the US in any way don't fool yourself with some populist speeches and Pakistan is not even relevant to this as their sole area of focus in countering India.

Even during the cold war when certain states were resisting the US, it was Turkey which was with NATO, it was Iran that was with the US. Arab states worked against the US/Israel, the attempts failed. The other Muslim states did nothing.

The forum is full of people trying to hate Arabs, especially Pakistanis lately trying to prove something as they switch their affection to another external state, it's amusing.
 
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That's what the Erdofanboy doesn't understand.

There are almost no daily traces of America in Baghdad today. However Iran has made its way in with its retarded backward culture thanks to America's invasion.

Maybe the US would do us a favor to blow Khamenei off the map as well after Soleimani, they never finish the job.

Always waiting for american favors. As mich as i would like to see khomeni and his mullah regime blown up, id prefer of arabs took the initiative and did it themselves rather than prepping otjers to do it.
Also did u forget it were tje arabs that kept shouting to the west to i terfere in syria and stop assad???? Didn't u guys lobbied n used money n even abused obama for not sending military??? Now how conveniently u say oh its coz of western interference that iran and Turkey found its way in.
 
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The "Jihadists" you talk about, are they Arabs or maybe muslims?

Donors in Saudi Arabia, not the government you dumbass. Did you not read the article? Turkish government directly supports terrorist groups. The Taliban is also not a terrorist group dumbass.

Is it possible to donate such moneys in KSA without permission from Saudis Clan?
 
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