Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution of Pakistan, root of all present and future evils!

[HRK]

Oh really? What other entity claims to protect the State and acts as an "umpire" in violation of the Constitution in Pakistan?

again nobody is calling for military rule here, keeep yourselfffffffff update janabbbbb ......

 

[VCheng]

again nobody is calling for military rule here, keeep yourselfffffffff update janabbbbb ......

Military rule by proxy is just as illegal as military rule by dictator.

 

[expert]

Now the speaker of the assembly claims that somehow the prime minister is immune from legal proceedings with reference to lying. So the PM is not answerable to anybody? How is the different from a dictatorship?

 

[Dr. Strangelove]

Now the speaker of the assembly claims that somehow the prime minister is immune from legal proceedings with reference to lying. So the PM is not answerable to anybody? How is the different from a dictatorship?

jamuriat ka hussan
democracy in pakistan is overrated

 

[HRK]

Military rule by proxy is just as illegal as military rule by dictator.

You are stuck in late 80s & 90s .... therefore, all of your analysis are based on your past experiences which are not relevant in current political situation, if you want to remain 'relevant' in any political debate plz update yourself with current political & social changes ....

Secondly, you may analysis the situation on the ground with the certain angle just for the sack of debate, but that particular approach of your's is also debateable, please allow me to say that it is certainly not that important because neither you hold that position which should attract thorough analysis of your stand and approach nor your approach is relevant.

 

[VCheng]

You are stuck in late 80s & 90s .... therefore, all of your analysis are based on your past experiences which are not relevant in current political situation, if you want to remain 'relevant' in any political debate plz update yourself with current political & social changes ....

Secondly, you may analysis the situation on the ground with the certain angle just for the sack of debate, but that particular approach of your's is also debateable, please allow me to say that it is certainly not that important because neither you hold that position which should attract thorough analysis of your stand and approach nor your approach is relevant.

The Constitution and the Rule of Law are just as relevant today as they ever were, indeed even more so.

 

[HRK]

The Constitution and the Rule of Law are just as relevant today as they ever were, indeed even more so.

Is there anyone who is against this .... ??

 

[VCheng]

Is there anyone who is against this .... ??

The Pakistan Army, for starters.

 

[HRK]

The Pakistan Army, for starters.

No your swayed understanding

 

[Irfan Baloch]

The Constitution (Fourteenth Amendment) Act, 1997 was an amendment to the Constitution of Pakistan passed in 1997, during the government of Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif, leader of the Pakistan Muslim League party. It subjected Members of Parliament to very strict party discipline. Party leaders received unlimited power to dismiss any of their legislators from Parliament if they spoke or voted against their party.

Since Nawaz' party had an overwhelming majority in Parliament, the Fourteenth Amendment effectively prevented the Prime Minister from being dismissed by a no confidence vote. A few months earlier, the Thirteenth Amendment took away the President's reserve power to remove a Prime Minister by dissolving Parliament and calling new elections. The amendments removed nearly all checks and balances on the Prime Minister's power, since there was virtually no way he could be legally dismissed.

In Pakistan, once legislators are elected to national or provincial assemblies, there is no way for the people to recall them before the end of their five-year terms. In the past, this has contributed to a sense of immunity on the part of members of the ruling party, and to rampant corruption among leading politicians. The Fourteenth Amendment increased this perception, and contributed to the overwhelming popular support for General Pervez Musharraf's coup in 1999. The Supreme Court subsequently validated the coup on the grounds that the Thirteenth and Fourteenth amendments created a situation for which there was no constitutional remedy.
Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution of Pakistan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So, there we go PMLN. Its undeniable to say that coup in Pakistan in 1999 was Musharraf's fault alone. Pakistan had already become a civilian dictatorship when Noora passed 14th Amendment, thus becoming Ameer-ul-Momineen (Saudi style).

Seriously, was this the so-called sacred constitution your legislators were bragging about to defend in parliament's joint session weeks ago? Something that can be easily altered with 2/3 majority is sacred? No matter if this majority is achieved through rigging or free and fair elections? Also, where was Supreme Court of Pakistan in 1997 when Noora passed these dictatorial, undemocratic amendments to the constitution with 2/3 majority? Oh, yes, "sacred" SC building was under attack by PMLN supporters back in 1997 when CJ tried to bring Ameer-ul-Momineen under the scrutiny of the law.

brilliant article dear

this same party nukes the constitution it claims to uphold so dearly. 58 2-B was a constitutional and legal way to relieve a PM but since it has been annulled , the only way left is for the Taliban to behead everyone and hang the headless corpses on constitution avenue or for the Khakis to sieze PTV and PM house and send the ruling party to their Saudi hosts.

 

[A.Rafay]

Haven't I quoted many times before that people get the government they deserve?

Maybe the people have changed or are trying to change? The govt they deserved is now not the Govt they want!

 

[VCheng]

No your swayed understanding

My understanding is spot on. The most blatant violator of the Constitution is the Army, to the everlasting detriment of the country.

Maybe the people have changed or are trying to change? The govt they deserved is now not the Govt they want!

Wanting better is a good catalyst of change, if it is real. But real deeds, not noble words, clearly show that most the people clamoring for change are actually pretty comfortable with the overall set up, and hence I can safely conclude that significant changes are unlikely.

 

[Dubious]

The glass is always full. It is only the ratio of water to air that varies. Pakistan is mostly hot air.

hot air moves quicker

 

[VCheng]

hot air moves quicker

Yes, I am very impressed with how quickly it is moving in Pakistan. Is that is why it is in the 25th century when the world has just started the 21st?

 

[Dubious]

Yes, I am very impressed with how quickly it is moving in Pakistan. Is that is why it is in the 25th century when the world has just started the 21st?

Sarcasm looks nice only when it fits not when its a misfit...
Like they say better late than never....

Plus it was YOU who called it hot air so you got something wrong with your physics there

@Syed.Ali.Haider

again nobody is calling for military rule here, keeep yourselfffffffff update janabbbbb ......

Its in his mind he cant help it