Four forces colliding in the Middle East

[XenoEnsi-14]

You might want to reconsider that since even apricots are technologically more advanced than what Iran has came up with so far. Which is nothing except for a cardboard jets, RC planes which are supposed to be UAVs, North Korean and Soviet junks which are supposed to be indiginious military systems, etc...

Turkey's exports:

And Iran's

Where'd you get those? You forgot the Kingdom of Petroleum Lords, I mean Saudi Arabia.

Anyways there was no so called "Spring" just momentarily chaotic moment that may have lasting affects. And there's only three forces working in the Middle East: Turkey, Israel, and the West.

 

[IRAN 1802]

What are you talking about? What loans, what Arab money? Did you even watch the video?



Tell me more about how Iran mastered the technology

Oh hell !!! U are feeble ! This image is an artic poster not a reall picture !!!!!

 

[TurAr]

You mean you do not know even how your economy runs? Pity. Read more.

When you launch a satellite then come here and talk. Right now you do not have any orbital launch capability. And I do not think you will have in this century either. Maybe the next century. And that is also a maybe.

We are building our own satellites and as far as I know we are already working on a launching system. While Iran plays with monkeys

Oh hell !!! U are feeble ! This image is an artic poster not a reall picture !!!!!

 

[Daneshmand]

Like Iran who writes in arabic and half of your words are arabic
Azeri and Turkmen get to decide that since Shah Ismail is their ancestor.

Proudly. In alphabets that prophet wrote in. But then what a secular would know about it.

I am sure, similarly, in a hundred years time, you would consider Khamenei as your ancestor as well. Since he is also an Azeri. As I said, you do not have a history and therefore you have to make one for yourself. I have no problem with that. You can make all Iranian leaders as your ancestors. It makes me proud.

We are building our own satellites and as far as I know we are already working on a launching system. While Iran plays with monkeys

Bringing in pictures and drawings like a kindergarten kid, would not win you an argument on a defense forum. Turkey does not have any orbital launch capability. And it will not have one atleast in this century. That is the difference, which I pointed above. It is about apricots and orbital launch. You like the former and we like the latter.

 

[IR1907]

To Pakistanis who have became brainwashed by Wahabi and other $hit propaganda let me add this to my previous comments :

There are areas inside Pakistan where your supposed Army cant even go on... you are forced to rely on your American supplied F16's to bomb the hide outs of the terrorists inside Pakistan area. There is no such thing in Iran, all of our territory is under firm control of the central government and thats how a functional state should be.

Now that we lost 5 of our scientists due to the hit and run attacks of the worlds best intelligence agencies (CIA, MOSSAD, MI6) is a totally different story. We dont have armed gunmen roaming around our territory, we do not have daily explosions going on in the country, we do not have Iranians killing each other based on tribal or some other ridicilous rubbish.

To compare Pakistan and Iranian security is such a joke... one is a firm regional leader with hands reaching all over the Middle East while the other is struggling very hard to become a functional state with full control over their territory.

Anyway i hope i didnt offend any Pakistanis with it, its just a reminder to Pakistanis who have became brainwashed by $hit propaganda.

 

[IRAN 1802]

Proudly. In alphabets that prophet wrote in. But then what a secular would know about it.

I am sure, similarly, in a hundred years time, you would consider Khamenei as your ancestor as well. Since he is also an Azeri. As I said, you do not have a history and therefore you have to make one for yourself. I have no problem with that. You can make all Iranian leaders as your ancestors. It makes me proud.

The Seljuk Iranian army shouldn't rescue them from Romans maybe
Btw many of them are not from Antolia but they are Mongols . Turkia

 

[Mahmoud_EGY]

I'm not a supporter of him but Turkey has democratic leader whereas you are an Egyptian Sisi fascist supporter who silenced the democratically elected leader of your country. In other words, you don't respect the majority vote of your people. You are so full of integrity

the people voted for him and the people wanted him out next year simple as that why would we stay with someone who is not Egyptian first who serve his brotherhood goals even if it is against our nation security someone who will not keep his promises about many things including the constitution and he was working on staying in power for ever we did what we have to do even if your leader call it a military coup funny thing is we have restored our foreign relations and it is even better and your democratic leader is hated by almost every one in the middle east and europe with his only friends are some terrorists who will be destroyed no matter how long it will take

 

[Daneshmand]

The Seljuk Iranian army shouldn't rescue them from Romans maybe

It is ok. We are a magnanimous nation. Look at Iraq. Saddam causes so much pain for Iran. But without even keeping a grudge we are helping Iraqis today. Such is the greatness of our nation. Such is our magnanimity.

 

[TurAr]

Bringing in pictures and drawings like a kindergarten kid, would not win you an argument on a defense forum. Turkey does not have any orbital launch capability. And it will not have one atleast in this century. That is the difference, which I pointed above. It is about apricots and orbital launch. You like the former and we like the latter.

I'm playing along and presenting you actual facts while you are just trolling with saying things like "you don't have x and you suck". "Come back when you have uranium enrichment or satellite launcher bla bla..." Is it the way to win an argument? Because I can literally come up with thousands of things that we have and you don't.

 

[IR1907]

It is ok. We are a magnanimous nation. Look at Iraq. Saddam causes so much pain for Iran. But without even keeping a grudge we are helping Iraqis today. Such is the greatness of our nation. Such is our magnanimity.

Saddam was a dictator, he held a entire nation hostage for his sick goals. We cant blame all Iraqis for that murderer.
If that guy had any brains he would offer a political and military alliance with the new Iranian government. With the vast potential both countries had it would be a untouchable anti imperialist power base.

 

[Daneshmand]

Saddam was a dictator, he held a entire nation hostage for his sick goals. We cant blame all Iraqis for that murderer.
If that guy had any brains he would offer a political and military alliance with the new Iranian government. With the vast potential both countries had it would be a untouchable anti imperialist power base.

That is the point. Other nations might not have behaved like Iran has. They would have blamed Iraqis. But Iran has a long history and knows the difference between public and personal policies.

I'm playing along and presenting you actual facts while you are just trolling with saying things like "you don't have x and you suck". "Come back when you have uranium enrichment or satellite launcher bla bla..." Is it the way to win an argument? Because I can literally come up with thousands of things that we have and you don't.

It is you who is trolling with your ridiculous pictures. If you had any brain, you would have brought counter-arguments. But then this is too much to expect from your level of intellect.

I did not say, "you suck". Like a neurotic, you are imagining things about what I said. I said, it is a matter of taste. One nation chooses to become the world's largest apricot producer and another chooses to be the third or the seventh or fifteenth largest producer of apricots beside launching satellites. It is just a matter of ambitions and goals. Come back here to criticize Iran when you have an enrichment program and orbital launch capability.

 

[IR1907]

That is the point. Other nations might not have behaved like Iran has. They would have blamed Iraqis. But Iran has a long history and knows the difference between public and personal policies.

Yes, our country is forgiving but we wont forget !
But its same with any arab country, really. Take Saudi Arabia as example, some hatred exists yes but if both nations had some mutual cultural programs tensions would get reduced.

I dont believe in endless sulking, its rubbish and it does certainly not suit us civilized Iranians.

 

[atatwolf]

We are building our own satellites and as far as I know we are already working on a launching system. While Iran plays with monkeys

Actually, there shouldn't be the need to prove Turkish capabilities to Farsis. Their Mulah leaders are spending all of their money on fake military products and propaganda making farsis believe they have superior tech compared to their neighbors and we are taking them out of their sweet dream which makes us the bad guys. I'm not going to do that anymore. Farsis can be Seljuk all they want and believe they ruled themselves since the beginning of times.

 

[TurAr]

It is you who is trolling with your ridiculous pictures. If you had any brain, you would have brought counter-arguments. But then this is too much to expect from your level of intellect.

I did not say, "you suck". Like a neurotic, you are imagining things about what I said. I said, it is a matter of taste. One nation chooses to become the world's largest apricot producer and another chooses to be the third or the seventh or fifteenth largest producer of apricots beside launching satellites. It is just a matter of ambitions and goals. Come back here to criticize Iran when you have an enrichment program and orbital launch capability.

Don't get personal now. Save the insults.

I was trying to tell you why your logic is flawed. How many countries in Europe have enrichment program along with launch center? Are you saying that the countries without those have no right to criticize Iran because Iran "mastered technology" by tinkering Soviet rockets and using them to kill monkeys? By wasting money on cardboard planes? By investing on a so-called nuclear program which brought nothing but misery and sanctions? Come back here when Iran isn't a joke anymore bud.

Iran:

 

[SipahSalar]

I do not want to continue this conversation with you because of the first sentence you put there, respecting Iran. But as some one who can speak toti poti Urdu, I can assure you that I can bring in references here about your country, that will blow up your mind. Do not make me bring them here. Because I will, if you push this. Rest assured that in every aspect of what you are talking Pakistan is in a bigger shithole than Iran. A much deeper and darker one.

As for how many bombs, that is the question right. Keep guessing.

If you want to stop, it's fine by me. I was just rebutting the statement that Pakistan cannot protect its children by saying Pakistan at least does not exploit it's own children.

I have seen an Irani member here who has a picture of Qaher-313 in his avatar, even Irani members tell him its fake but he doesn't believe them, makes me laugh every time. He is a rare sight though.

There are areas inside Pakistan where your supposed Army cant even go on... you are forced to rely on your American supplied F16's to bomb the hide outs of the terrorists inside Pakistan area. There is no such thing in Iran, all of our territory is under firm control of the central government and thats how a functional state should be.

I loved how you added "American supplied F16's". Please enlighten me what planes does Iran have? And who provided them? You have 5 decades old F-4s, which are, BIG SURPRISE, American Supplied. And some F-14's that cannot be used because of lack of spare parts, again AMERICAN SUPPLIED.
As for no-go areas, not anymore. All areas are under Pakistani control since launch of Zarb-e-Azb. The terrorists have escaped into Afghanistan.

Now that we lost 5 of our scientists due to the hit and run attacks of the worlds best intelligence agencies (CIA, MOSSAD, MI6) is a totally different story. We dont have armed gunmen roaming around our territory, we do not have daily explosions going on in the country, we do not have Iranians killing each other based on tribal or some other ridicilous rubbish.

Ever heard of Jundullah? Baluch seperatists?

To compare Pakistan and Iranian security is such a joke... one is a firm regional leader with hands reaching all over the Middle East while the other is struggling very hard to become a functional state with full control over their territory.

Again, when you fail to protect your country's biggest struggle, i.e nuclear weapons and you say it's a "different story', well it's not! When your top-notch scientists are being cherry picked inside your own country, I'm sorry to say but you don't have control over it.