Fotros - new strategic drone

[xenon54 out]

Stop comparing Turkey and Iran in this thread and also stop derailing it.

But comparing with Israel is ok for you?

Dude, we was talking calm with @haman10 just a little bit competition, but actually we are buddies.

 

[Serpentine]

But comparing with Israel is ok for you?

Dude, we was talking calm with @haman10 just a little bit competition, but actually we are buddies.

The Israeli member claims it has some similarities with Harfang, and this is related to topic.
But the chest thumping that "You can't build your drone, but we can or your drone is a copy but ours is not" is not related to topic. It's more like a di** measuring contest.

 

[mohammadmahdi]

We do not compete with Turkey because our situation with turkey is not the same at all.it is more than 34 years that we are in toughest sanctions...Turkey is good we are good too..I like moslem turkish people as brother

 

[haman10]

The Israeli member claims it has some similarities with Harfang, and this is related to topic.
But the chest thumping that "You can't build your drone, but we can or your drone is a copy but ours is not" is not related to topic. It's more like a di** measuring contest.

dont be harsh on xenon and sinan !

they are my buddies serpi

anyhow point taken

 

[Archdemon]

Just similarities ... any problem !?

Problem? no, well maybe for Iranians, it showing lack of innovation/creativity/ingenuity.

 

[xenon54 out]

The Israeli member claims it has some similarities with Harfang, and this is related to topic.
But the chest thumping that "You can't build your drone, but we can or your drone is a copy but ours is not" is not related to topic. It's more like a di** measuring contest.

Actually the content of our discussion was different than you portray.
And i would like to remind you that everything began with some troll comments.
But it was derailing of thread your right, sry for that.

 

[mohammadmahdi]

Problem? no, well maybe for Iranians, it showing lack of innovation/creativity/ingenuity.

Jealous

 

[KRAIT]

You guys going to use it in Pakistan?

 

[mohammadmahdi]

Iranians still kick *** even they are under embargo.

Other muslims countries can't invent things because they are dominated by the USA, who want them to live in idleness and slowly be killed by their wars to make the Great Israel from the rich Nile to the Euphrate.

If a nation against the arrogant powers stand on its own will be superpower!

 

[SOHEIL]

Problem? no, well maybe for Iranians, it showing lack of innovation/creativity/ingenuity.

This is the fastest way ... we need such a drones right now !

In the next models we will add innovation/creativity/ingenuity ...

...

???

 

[MTN1917]

I never understood such type of industrial activities carried out by Iran. What's the purpose of developing two-three similar type of drones/missiles/...with English caution !!! stickers on them, having almost similar performance parameters? It is something like developing M1A1 Abram and Leopard tanks simultaneously but I think Such behaviors just serve to show off industrial strength propaganda instead of meeting the requirements of your armed forces...

Iran unveils 'strategic' UAV

Iran unveiled its largest unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) to date on 18 November, raising questions about duplication in Islamic Republic's UAV programmes.

The twin-boom/pusher configuration Fotros was displayed armed with a previously unseen type of missile that resembled the AGM-114 Hellfire. The missiles even had 'K-2' written on them in a similar style to that seen on AGM-114K-2 missiles carrying augmented high-explosive anti-tank warheads.

Iranian television also showed footage of the Fotros taking off and landing. Although it flew with its missiles, they were not fired in the footage.

"This strategic drone, which has an operational radius of 2,000 km with its cargo, flies up to a height of 25,000 ft and has the capability of flying for 16-30 hours continuously," Defence Minister General Hossein Dehghan said during the unveiling ceremony. "[It] is capable of being equipped with air-to-surface missiles and rockets of all kinds to carry out combat missions in addition to carrying out reconnaissance and surveillance missions."

No further specifications were released, but the UAV appears to be roughly similar in size to the IAI Heron TP that it resembles. The Israel UAV has a wingspan of 14 m and is classified as a high-altitude system as it can operate above 40,000 ft.

The lower operational ceiling of the Fotros could reflect Iran's inability to produce advanced composites similar to the ones used in the Heron TP.

The performance of the new UAV puts it in the same class as the Shahed-129, which purportedly has an operational ceiling of 24,000 ft and a range of 17,000 km. The Shahid-129 was first seen in 2012 and Iranian television showed an armed version firing a tube-launched projectile in October.

The rivalry between the Islamic Revolution Guards Corps (IRGC) and the regular military could explain why Iran appears to be developing two UAVs with similar capabilities. While the Shahed-129 is clearly an IRGC programme, the defence minister was flanked by senior officers from the air force and army aviation command during the Fotros unveiling ceremony.

Neither UAV would be capable of reliably carrying out reconnaissance missions in hostile airspace as their low operational ceilings make them vulnerable to air defence systems. IRGC officers claim this capability gap is close to be filled by a reverse-engineered version of the 'stealthy' Lockheed Martin RQ-170 Sentinel UAV that came down in Iran in December 2011.

Iran unveils 'strategic' UAV - IHS Jane's 360

 

[SOHEIL]

Iran unveils 'strategic' UAV

Iran unveiled its largest unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) to date on 18 November, raising questions about duplication in Islamic Republic's UAV programmes.

The twin-boom/pusher configuration Fotros was displayed armed with a previously unseen type of missile that resembled the AGM-114 Hellfire. The missiles even had 'K-2' written on them in a similar style to that seen on AGM-114K-2 missiles carrying augmented high-explosive anti-tank warheads.

Iranian television also showed footage of the Fotros taking off and landing. Although it flew with its missiles, they were not fired in the footage.

"This strategic drone, which has an operational radius of 2,000 km with its cargo, flies up to a height of 25,000 ft and has the capability of flying for 16-30 hours continuously," Defence Minister General Hossein Dehghan said during the unveiling ceremony. "[It] is capable of being equipped with air-to-surface missiles and rockets of all kinds to carry out combat missions in addition to carrying out reconnaissance and surveillance missions."

No further specifications were released, but the UAV appears to be roughly similar in size to the IAI Heron TP that it resembles. The Israel UAV has a wingspan of 14 m and is classified as a high-altitude system as it can operate above 40,000 ft.

The lower operational ceiling of the Fotros could reflect Iran's inability to produce advanced composites similar to the ones used in the Heron TP.

The performance of the new UAV puts it in the same class as the Shahed-129, which purportedly has an operational ceiling of 24,000 ft and a range of 17,000 km. The Shahid-129 was first seen in 2012 and Iranian television showed an armed version firing a tube-launched projectile in October.

The rivalry between the Islamic Revolution Guards Corps (IRGC) and the regular military could explain why Iran appears to be developing two UAVs with similar capabilities. While the Shahed-129 is clearly an IRGC programme, the defence minister was flanked by senior officers from the air force and army aviation command during the Fotros unveiling ceremony.

Neither UAV would be capable of reliably carrying out reconnaissance missions in hostile airspace as their low operational ceilings make them vulnerable to air defence systems. IRGC officers claim this capability gap is close to be filled by a reverse-engineered version of the 'stealthy' Lockheed Martin RQ-170 Sentinel UAV that came down in Iran in December 2011.

Iran unveils 'strategic' UAV - IHS Jane's 360

 

[Archdemon]

Iran unveils 'strategic' UAV

Iran unveiled its largest unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) to date on 18 November, raising questions about duplication in Islamic Republic's UAV programmes.

The twin-boom/pusher configuration Fotros was displayed armed with a previously unseen type of missile that resembled the AGM-114 Hellfire. The missiles even had 'K-2' written on them in a similar style to that seen on AGM-114K-2 missiles carrying augmented high-explosive anti-tank warheads.

Iranian television also showed footage of the Fotros taking off and landing. Although it flew with its missiles, they were not fired in the footage.

"This strategic drone, which has an operational radius of 2,000 km with its cargo, flies up to a height of 25,000 ft and has the capability of flying for 16-30 hours continuously," Defence Minister General Hossein Dehghan said during the unveiling ceremony. "[It] is capable of being equipped with air-to-surface missiles and rockets of all kinds to carry out combat missions in addition to carrying out reconnaissance and surveillance missions."

No further specifications were released, but the UAV appears to be roughly similar in size to the IAI Heron TP that it resembles. The Israel UAV has a wingspan of 14 m and is classified as a high-altitude system as it can operate above 40,000 ft.

The lower operational ceiling of the Fotros could reflect Iran's inability to produce advanced composites similar to the ones used in the Heron TP.

The performance of the new UAV puts it in the same class as the Shahed-129, which purportedly has an operational ceiling of 24,000 ft and a range of 17,000 km. The Shahid-129 was first seen in 2012 and Iranian television showed an armed version firing a tube-launched projectile in October.

The rivalry between the Islamic Revolution Guards Corps (IRGC) and the regular military could explain why Iran appears to be developing two UAVs with similar capabilities. While the Shahed-129 is clearly an IRGC programme, the defence minister was flanked by senior officers from the air force and army aviation command during the Fotros unveiling ceremony.

Neither UAV would be capable of reliably carrying out reconnaissance missions in hostile airspace as their low operational ceilings make them vulnerable to air defence systems. IRGC officers claim this capability gap is close to be filled by a reverse-engineered version of the 'stealthy' Lockheed Martin RQ-170 Sentinel UAV that came down in Iran in December 2011.

Iran unveils 'strategic' UAV - IHS Jane's 360

Surprised by Janes's ignorance, One moment the mention Heron TP and at the same breath saying it has wingspan of 14m, Heron TP has wingspan of 26 meters! Heron 1(AKA Mahaz 1) have a wingspan of 14m, Fortos most resemble to Harfang UAV which has wingspan of 16,6 meters.

 

[mohsen]

this video from Al-Alam is focusing much more.
http://v.alalam.ir/news/2013/11/18/alalam_635203912688612186_25f_4x3.mp4
damn if it was HD we could read the missile specs too.

 

[MTN1917]

Surprised by Janes's ignorance, One moment the mention Heron TP and at the same breath saying it has wingspan of 14m, Heron TP has wingspan of 26 meters! Heron 1(AKA Mahaz 1) have a wingspan of 14m, Fortos most resemble to Harfang UAV which has wingspan of 16,6 meters.

Yes,I know that the author has confused Heron TP with Heron.

Fotros is in the same category as Heron, MQ-1 and etc, so Fotros lower flight ceiling is mostly related to the Fotros category(which mostly fly at 30000 ft)

I posted this article in response to Cabatli's questions about duplication effort in Iran UAV program.