Former Pakistani ambassador et al: What is Moderate Islam?

[Desert Fox]

Mystics all the way!

I love Sufism, wish everyone could denounce Wahabi Islam and actually study what Islam requires of it's followers and their non-Islamic friends.

Sufis have in a way changed Islam, they have innovated and that is harram!

“…and the best speech is the Speech of Allah, and the best guidance is the guidance of Muhammad (peace be upon him), and the worst of all affairs are the newly invented matters (in the religion)”

[Muslim]

AllahuAlim!

 

[muse]

Lo gi Aalim aagiya - Sufism innovates and that is haraam and you have nothing against it? What does that say about the strength of your convictions?

 

[Desert Fox]

I never said wahabiism is right...it's probably the worst corruption that has entered Islam.

please watch what you say, Wahab is also the name of Allah, Al-Wahab means the Bestower:

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Lo gi Aalim aagiya - Sufism innovates and that is haraam and you have nothing against it? What does that say about the strength of your convictions?

what are you suggesting i do? and don't jump to conclusions and name calling!

 

[EjazR]

People who blame "wahabbis/salaafis" for Al Qaeda tactics and that "sufism" is the best thing after sliced bread don't know what wahabbis are and what sufism is.

 

[SekrutYakhni]

Tasawuf is the true sense of your religion, Islam. Admit it or not...

 

[muse]

Sufism innovates and that is haraam and you have nothing against it?, Well?? How can you stand that ?

 

[SekrutYakhni]

Sufism innovates and that is haraam and you have nothing against it?, Well?? How can you stand that ?

Sufism innovates? It does not! People innovate Sufism! Well, I don't like to say Sufism!!! Tasawuf, to be more precise.

 

[muse]

Easy - let the Ninja do his own talking.

 

[SekrutYakhni]

Easy - let the Ninja do his own talking.

What do you think about Tasawuf? One liner..

 

[Desert Fox]

Sufism innovates and that is haraam and you have nothing against it?, Well?? How can you stand that ?

you still haven't replied to my post #18, instead of resorting to rants and name calling why don you reply with logic and prove me wrong where you think i'm wrong!

 

[Desert Fox]

Sufism innovates? It does not! People innovate Sufism! Well, I don't like to say Sufism!!! Tasawuf, to be more precise.

Explain to me how Sufism does or does not innovate, as for the answer to your reply :

Sufi Exposed, Bida'ah, Inovations & Shirk!

 

[anurag_singh]

People who blame "wahabbis/salaafis" for Al Qaeda tactics and that "sufism" is the best thing after sliced bread don't know what wahabbis are and what sufism is.

What are you wahabi or sufi or anything else?
what are your views about these sects?
If you don't want to speak on the forum openly please pm me.

 

[Sinnerman108]

People who blame "wahabbis/salaafis" for Al Qaeda tactics and that "sufism" is the best thing after sliced bread don't know what wahabbis are and what sufism is.

Ejaz, this is one of those few occasion when I am 100% in agreement with you.

 

[Sinnerman108]

What do you think about Tasawuf? One liner..

boy aren't you a bit too young to be talking about tasawuf and tareeqat ?

Let me ask you, are you willing to abide by rational if we debated with you ?

are you willing to expose your beliefs and insecurities in the name of logic ?

 

[Spring Onion]

The very fact that the term Moderate Islam is being used to work as a counterbalance against the forces of tyranny carrying out their nefarious deeds in the name of Islam should be cause for worry for all right thinking Muslims. The use of this term pre-supposes the widespread prevalance of its anti-thesis i.e. extremeist Islam, and thereby paints the proponents from both sides of the divide with the same common brush- followers of Islam.

Think about it......

The problem is we are dangling between two extremes

1. That is the likes of Conservative extremists militants

2. That the likes of Liberal extremists .


The fake terms like Liberal Islam, Conservative Islam are propagated through out by the respective extremists and both are wrong.

What is conservative or liberal ? Islam is just the name of Moderate ways of balancing your life and acts.

everything other than that either going towards militancy or other extreme is pure extremism

Both are harmful in the long run be it Religious extremism or anti-Religious extremism