Former PAF ACM Sohail Aman Gives His Views on PAF V IAF !

[Trango Towers]

Nothing new here, during the Swift Retort programme one of PAF radar operator disclosed that there were 11 targets locked from which two were destroyed where as PAF was in a position to eliminate all of them.
As for war is concerned, remember, India tried to attack a civilian entity in the middle of the night but failed even though it had the element of surprise, while PAF raided Six Indian military targets in broad day light while India was on full alert.....if they had guts or the will then by all accounts, India should have responded by attacking Pakistani military targets.

For future PAF must learn that all targets locked must be eliminated.
Just imagine the fear in IAF if 11 planes were taken out in broad daylight. They would have been devastated psychological for generations to come

 

[TsAr]

this is an old interview.

 

[crankthatskunk]

If Indians weren’t afraid of starting a full scale war, they’d not have backed down after straight strikes against their military targets.

Wars aren’t exactly a child-like business, once they start, no one can control the outcome. Hence it’s best to avoid them while still responding to the enemy, which we did.

They only backed down, because they also know what Air Marshal knows that they were at a very serious disadvantage and could have lost lot more jets, only spared by Pakistan from their indecisiveness.
The facts went right at the top, Modi making the comments if "Rafale hota".

 

[Bossman]

11 Targets? From what is in the open there were 2 SU-30 on CAP and 2 Mirage-2000 and then 2 Mig21 that makes it 6 in total, any idea what were the other 5 targets.

So you were sitting in the Srinagar control room

 

[MastanKhan]

'I am more concerned with his comments regarding the constraint shown by Pakistan.
He admitted what we know for long that PAF had far more Indian jets locked and could have caused lot more damage. But decided not to, because people were worried about full scale war.

It is exactly like sending a boxer to fight with one of the hand tight behind his back, while opposing fighter has no such constraints.
Indians were not worried about full scale war when they send their jets to bomb Pakistani land, Pakistan proper must add not Azad Kashmir.

@MastanKhan

Hi,

Pakistanis have a habbit of talking about muslim victories all over the world over the period of history and claiming it as their own---either in spain---in turkey or elsewhere.

But when it was their time to shine---the knees of the PAF's braves BUCKLED----.

Cowardice can also be described by using the term PAF general staff,

 

[Myth_buster_1]

For future PAF must learn that all targets locked must be eliminated.
Just imagine the fear in IAF if 11 planes were taken out in broad daylight. They would have been devastated psychological for generations to come

Do u think India would have stayed quite? The reason why they are quite now is because they think f16 was shot down which equalizes the score since no evidence has been shown regarding su30 kill even though the probability is high that it was indeed shot down.
I believe all this drama was set up by india to defame pakistan that they are harboring antak and to understand pakistan capability and unfortunately pakistan fell for the trap thats why india only sent out mig21 in front line know even if its fighter gets shot down it wont be a big loss...

 

[crankthatskunk]

Hi,

Pakistanis have a habbit of talking about muslim victories all over the world over the period of history and claiming it as their own---either in spain---in turkey or elsewhere.

But when it was their time to shine---the knees of the PAF's braves BUCKLED----.

Cowardice can also be described by using the term PAF general staff,

I can still remember the day of OBL raid drama. Then Air Chief Marshal of PAF on TV, commenting that how PAF would have attacked the helicopters, who stayed in Pakistani airspace for a whopping 1.30 to 2.00 hours!! He said the American jets were waiting on the other side of the border.

This was his excuse for not defending the motherland, for which he was given the duty.
So when it comes to their duties, sometime, it is the fear of getting attacked or stating a war.
In other words come and do what you want, carry out a raid 100 km away from the Capital, breach the airspace for hours or come and bomb our land with aggressive intentions, we have our excuses ready.
What makes me laugh are those who don't look at the naked reality and truth but make excuses for the incompetence and cowardice.

 

[Trango Towers]

Do u think India would have stayed quite? The reason why they are quite now is because they think f16 was shot down which equalizes the score since no evidence has been shown regarding su30 kill even though the probability is high that it was indeed shot down.
I believe all this drama was set up by india to defame pakistan that they are harboring antak and to understand pakistan capability and unfortunately pakistan fell for the trap thats why india only sent out mig21 in front line know even if its fighter gets shot down it wont be a big loss...

Pakistan vs ibiza is similar to Israel vs arabs. Why don't the Arabs hit back. Play ground bully. Remember who attacked when

 

[kursed]

They only backed down, because they also know what Air Marshal knows that they were at a very serious disadvantage and could have lost lot more jets, only spared by Pakistan from their indecisiveness.
The facts went right at the top, Modi making the comments if "Rafale hota".

No. Their initial response was to shift gears and turn sub conventional by threatening our F-16 housing bases with surface to surface missile strikes. Modi later clearly pointed to them being nuclear in nature. Pakistan had then responded with clearly saying (and then bringing Shaheen launchers out in full view of over-head satellites) that it'll respond in kind and with more missiles. This is what eventually deterred what was fast looking like a final war.

 

[Trango Towers]

No. Their initial response was to shift gears and turn sub conventional by threatening our F-16 housing bases with surface to surface missile strikes. Modi later clearly pointed to them being nuclear in nature. Pakistan had then responded with clearly saying (and then bringing Shaheen launchers out in full view of over-head satellites) that it'll respond in kind and with more missiles. This is what eventually deterred what was fast looking like a final war.

And that's what would have happened had 11 Been shot down.

 

[SIPRA]

No. Their initial response was to shift gears and turn sub conventional by threatening our F-16 housing bases with surface to surface missile strikes. Modi later clearly pointed to them being nuclear in nature. Pakistan had then responded with clearly saying (and then bringing Shaheen launchers out in full view of over-head satellites) that it'll respond in kind and with more missiles. This is what eventually deterred what was fast looking like a final war.

Both sides restrained, because both had achieved their respective objectives. Modi gained a powerful narrative, though fake and false, but saleable, to spin a thumping victory, in the coming elections, which was precisely the sole objective of Balakot Strikes. Pakistan achieved an upper hand, by giving a bloody nose and more-than-proportionate response to India, on Feb 27. So, there was hardly any need for escalation from either side.

 

[SIPRA]

No. Their initial response was to shift gears and turn sub conventional by threatening our F-16 housing bases with surface to surface missile strikes. Modi later clearly pointed to them being nuclear in nature. Pakistan had then responded with clearly saying (and then bringing Shaheen launchers out in full view of over-head satellites) that it'll respond in kind and with more missiles. This is what eventually deterred what was fast looking like a final war.

In my opinion, Indian threat of missiles strike was merely to achieve an early release of Abhinandan, which was necessary to build an appropriate and effective narrative for the electoral win, with large margin.

 

[Windjammer]

It was due to the threat of missile strikes on their bases that most of our fleet of Vipers remained airborne that day some of them for upto 5 hours at a time, both to avoid being caught on the ground and armed ones to hit back and confront any IAF aggression while the missile forces would hit the high value Indian targets.

 

[crankthatskunk]

No. Their initial response was to shift gears and turn sub conventional by threatening our F-16 housing bases with surface to surface missile strikes. Modi later clearly pointed to them being nuclear in nature. Pakistan had then responded with clearly saying (and then bringing Shaheen launchers out in full view of over-head satellites) that it'll respond in kind and with more missiles. This is what eventually deterred what was fast looking like a final war.

So in your own words, the threat of missiles strikes deter them, not shooting down of just 2 jets instead of 9 or 11, whatever the score was!
In other words it wouldn't have made any difference if Pakistan shot down all the locked jets.
If anything, it would have deterred Indians for years to come, not to try any misadventure.
on top of it, their reputation in the world would have gone down the drains. They wouldn't have come up with lies of shooting down a F 16. Abhinundun wouldn't have humiliation to get a vir chakara.

 

[JawadKKhan]

We are immensely PROUD of what PAF did on 27th Feb. It could not be more perfect response what PAF did on 27th February. In response of few trees, PAF showed its immense capabilities next day in broad day light at highest level of indian air alert. That's literally telling indians who is the Boss!

ZERO proofs by indians and COMPLETE proofs by PAF. Former ACM rightly said our response was immensely graduated and perfect. Its like we SLAPPED hard on their FACE and kept the escalation ladder in control, so they couldn't respond but only could throw a wild imagination of F-16 shot down for indians consumption. Our H-4s delivered complete message to india and had you killed anyone in Pakistan instead of few trees, see our H-4 missiles would have blasted through your Brigade HQs. We showed actual weapon footages of H-4s unlike indians who completely failed to give a single evidence of Balakot. When Reuters, MAXAR, Australian report, EU space imaging all of them confirmed with 100% certainty that all indian bombs fell away, The indian media came to rescue sentiments of indians by giving most comical explanation that multiple 2000 lbs bombs from 50 kms away made a delicate hole in the roof and ordinary feeble house kept standing in the face of immense shockwave, weight, momentum.. This spin has actually given us the opportunity to humiliate indians for eternity for their IQ level.

So in your own words, the threat of missiles strikes deter them, not shooting down of just 2 jets instead of 9 or 11, whatever the score was!
In other words it wouldn't have made any difference if Pakistan shot down all the locked jets.
If anything, it would have deterred Indians for years to come, not to try any misadventure.
on top of it, their reputation in the world would have gone down the drains. They wouldn't have come up with lies of shooting down a F 16. Abhinundun wouldn't have humiliation to get a vir chakara.

Bro, we gave them measured response, as I said in earlier post its like We SLAPPED them hard on their FACE but still controlled the escalation ladder. So, they couldn't respond. We definitely could shot more of their jets but then indians knowing that they are being owned by PAF would have responded from other means. Our strength is our airforce. Their strength is Navy, they would have attacked through navy, and hence full unstoppable war would have started. So, it was wise decision to give a CLEAR message in a measured way. BTW! even we would have shot more then 2 jets, they would never accept. I can bet on my life, they would have not accepted even mig-21 had it fallen on other side of LOC.