Formation of All Pakistan Muslim League

[GUNNER]

Yes, and before that they were part of several other groupings. They are perpetual lotas. That was my larger point. One phone call and a little bit of "funding" will have them switching sides like nobody's business. I am sure you've seen that famous series of interviews with "leading" politicians who described how the IJI was formed. All it took was a few phone calls and a few pieces of paper bearing images of the Founder of the Nation.

Before 97, most of PML-Q members were part of N going back to IJI. I know how the IJI was formed. It comprised of several factions - with two things in common - which were pro-Zia and anti-PPP. It also filled a political vaccum as PML-N evolved into a major political party. Musharraf thought that he could repeat the cycle again and cobble together another IJI. But by this time, the PML-N had fallen out of grace and had it's own views other than those of the militay-establishment nexus. While he did managed to form a League of his own, the fact is that once he was out, the PML-N sprang back. Only the diehard members remained with Nawaz when the Intel-NAB joint was hounding them. So, it cannot be called a Lota party anymore. The view is further strengthened by the fact that Nawaz refused to take these Lotas back in. He could have easily over-thrown the central government had he done so. The chaudhrys are ever willing.

The MQM will support Musharraf.

Musharraf will likely contest on his own platform and then obtain the support of the other parties post election. There will be a pre-electoral seat arrangement between all these members of the future hypothetical alliance we are discussing. For example, Musharraf will not want to be seen as part of the MQM. Yet, the MQM will not oppose him. The PML-Q may not have Musharraf on board at the time of elections, but soon after they will all reconvene in Parliament as a unified alliance.

I'll be surprised if Musharraf gets even two seats on his own platform. As far asd Q and F are concerned, they will together get not more than 35 seats in all. As far as the MQM is concerned, even if it improves on it's current tally, it may get up to 25. As i said earlier, this alliance will push PML-N and PPP closer, resulting in their coalition government once more. And once they do, MQM will lose no time in dumping Musharraf. That's my reading.

 

[TechLahore]

^^ The next government is not going to be a PML-N/PPP government, Sir. Utterly and completely impossible.

 

[GUNNER]

^^ The next government is not going to be a PML-N/PPP government, Sir. Utterly and completely impossible.

Everything is possible in politics my friend. While i cannot say for sure what is going to happen tommorow, it is not impossible. But, let's see. Let's just hope that whatveer happens, is the best for the country.

 

[Tayyab1796]

Next elections, it appears , will be betwqeen PMLN/PPP vs PMLQ/Mush/MQM. Eventhough PMLN and PPP will contest against each other but PMLN is increasingly thought of as PPP 's B team now . Urban Lahore and parts of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa will vote for Imran but i don't see him winning on national scene . y do i say Nawaz Sharif is doomed :

* PMLN is not as popular now as it was in 2008 or in 2009 especially after the 'fake degree' marathon . we all know bye-elections are rigged so they are no measure of a ruling party's popularity but what matters is how good is the losing candidate doing.
* PMLN cannot make a deal with PMLQ because PMLQ won't except Nawaz as prime minister also PMLN 's whole politics is now around maligning mushy how can they sit with him .
* PPP 's track record is that they will not hesitate to make a deal with PMLQ or even Mush to prolong or strenghten their rule .
all that leaves Nawaz Sharif licking his wounds and the biggest loser.

 

[SpArK]

What's in a name? Ask Musharraf and Pir Pagara!

2010-09-21 16:00:00
The formation of the All Pakistan Muslim League (APML), the new faction emerging from the merger of PML-Q and PML-F, under the leadership of Pir Pagara, is likely to trigger a 'name war' between former President Parvez Musharraf and the merged party, as Musharraf is set to announce his own political party with the same name on October 1.

Though Musharraf has not established his party so far, he had declared that his party would be called "All Pakistan Muslim League", prior to an announcement made by Shujaat and Pagara regarding the merger of their parties, The Nation reported.

As a matter of fact, both the political gurus rushed to the decision about the party name, leaving Musharraf behind in the name race.



The newly established party's leader- Mushahid Hussain- claimed that there were three Muslim Leagues registered with the Election Commission of Pakistan - the PML-N, PML-Q and the PML-F- of which the latter two had now merged into one party named APML.

Interestingly, Musharraf has already applied to the Election Commission of Pakistan for registering his own party by the name of All Pakistan Muslim League. However, the scenario after October 1, when the former president will formally announce the formation of his party with the same name, it is yet to be seen. (ANI)


What's in a name? Ask Musharraf and Pir Pagara!

 

[SekrutYakhni]

Well in that case why share your opinion here? And if you don't like links with Pakistanis, please let me know, I will be happy to deactivate your account. After all, you are participating on a Pakistani board and that might result in some accidental linkages being formed. I wouldn't want such a disaster to befall you.

Go ahead my friend.

 

[muse]

Count us out, Nawaz tells Gilani
By Zulqernain Tahir
Wednesday, 22 Sep, 2010


LAHORE: A clear-cut ‘no-cooperation’ message by ally and the arch rival Nawaz Sharif has reportedly panicked Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani, making him publicly talk of ‘conspiracies’ being hatched against his government.

The PML-N chief has reportedly told the prime minister unequivocally that in future he (PM) should not expect any co-operation from his party.

A source informed Dawn on Tuesday that Nawaz Sharif’s message had panicked the prime minister as it was indicative of some ‘serious move’ to send his government packing.

“Though apparently, Mr Sharif has expressed his annoyance with the prime minister for backing out of his commitment to constitute an independent commission to monitor the relief work and funds collection for the flood-affected people, the premier believes that the PML-N is seriously contemplating to pose a challenge to his government at the behest of the establishment,” he said.

PML-N senior leader MNA Khawaja Asif has also confirmed that the PML-N chief had given a “clear-cut message” to PM Gilani about his (Nawaz’s) party’s future stance. “Our leadership has made it clear to PM Gilani that it will not support him on any issue and also in case a move is initiated to bring about a constitutional change.”

“Rather we will go for an in-house change. It’s a number game in parliament to bring a no-confidence motion against the prime minister. When we will have the required number we will go for it,” Khawaja Asif added. To a question about the possibility of PML-N ‘merger’ with the PML-Q in this regard, he said it was out of question, hastening to add there could be a possibility of “cooperation” between the two leagues, however, over the issue (of bringing no-confidence move against the prime minister). “We are ready to show flexibility for democracy and national interest,” he said.

The PML-Q and PML-Functional have already announced a merger of the factions.

PML-Q senior vice-president Senator Wasim Sajjad said his party would not be part of any unconstitutional move to topple the present set up. “The present government should complete its tenure. We are also not in favour of supporting a no-confidence motion against PM Gilani,” he said.

About unification of PML-N and Q, Senator Sajjad said: “We have personal contacts with the N leaders, however, there are efforts under way for the merger.”

Premier’s son MPA Abdul Qadir Gilani told Dawn the PPP was ready to face any such challenge. “Governments come and go. We accept the challenges with an open heart,” he said.

Junior Gilani said since Mian Nawaz Sharif had clarified that he would not support any unconstitutional change, the PPP was not worried.