foreign NGOs were behind Indian anti nuclear protests in 2011 says Singh

[KS]

wrath doesnt Hurt if the cause which ur standing for is right ... I was an RSS member for 4 years until i was removed ... & BJP member as well as local committee vice-president for 1 year until i resigned ...

Faced many oppositions with in my Extended family members ... Most of my paternal Family Members where Communist ... My dad who passed away when i was 13 ... was again a Hard core CPI carder when he was in Kerala... but i never left my ideology ... stood with it ... i lost many job opportunity due to it ... had to battle with financial problem...was Discriminated at many places But still i am here beating my chest proudly, i am Hindu Nationalist... thats my biggest identity ...

I think you would have done well in concentrating on job first and then hoping to realize whatever you stand for through that..Priorities..

 

[gslv mk3]

My answer either is falling on ur deaf ears ... or its beyond ur logic ...

Nice excuse for running away!!

You were the one who started making derogatory remarks about the RSS. There is no doubt that the priest involved in highjacking the nuclear powerplant is no better or worse compared to the RSS.

and 8 other Indian pdf members agreed to what I said .Dont tell me RSS is not communalist

 

[gslv mk3]

U never see wrong in any thing where church is involved ... Let that be Anti-Nuke project

I am pro nuclear and I dont want priest(who are obiviously not experts in nuclear physics and are misguided by those Anti-Nuke protestors) to interfere in Koodankulam issue..

But I never saw critisizing Medha Patkar,Sugathakumari,VS Achudhanandhan ,our paid Media or even SP Udayakumar
Hater too much?

Italian Marines Issue

I am in for prosecuting them...And wait till they come back....

or Kerala Political Church Nexus ...

Church is generally considered a vote bank of congress.Big deal in Indian Politics??The same way BJP is trying to make Hindhu community their votebank by adding communal colours to many issues like Aranmula Airport.

 

[zaxcolix]

I think you would have done well in concentrating on job first and then hoping to realize whatever you stand for through that..Priorities..

To each his own .....we should not super impose our priorities on someone else under the premise that we are right and they are wrong. .....as it is, we have too many people who are keen to issue 'certificates' to others in pdf.

Nair has his priorities and you have yours. In my book both deserve equal respect ...not derision by giving public advice. I think you own him an apology.

....
and 8 other Indian pdf members agreed to what I said .Dont tell me RSS is not communalist

8 other pdf members agree to you that is your criteria for deciding what is right and wrong ?

....you are in no position to issue 'certificate' to RSS either since its already established that you are communal.

 

[KS]

and 8 other Indian pdf members agreed to what I said .Dont tell me RSS is not communalist

RSS is not communalist..I think people have a very shallow idea of what is communalist..you are not communalist if you identify yourself with one idealogy and work for its upliftment..

Nair has his priorities and you have yours. In my book both deserve equal respect ...not derision by giving public advice. I think you own him an apology.

Thats between me and nair...

Church is generally considered a vote bank of congress.Big deal in Indian Politics??The same way BJP is trying to make Hindhu community their votebank by adding communal colours to many issues like Aranmula Airport.

Yes its becoming a big deal...trying to make Hindus as a votebank is considered communal while the opposite is considered secular..thats the issue..I have not seen one person on the "secular" side who has accepted that Congress and church are communal for influencing voters.

 

[Sashan]

Caste system ll always exist my friend,

If you want to go nihilistic and abandon all traditions of the community and live the urban,unconcerned life,that too becomes a cultural catch point.

White collar people go with white collar people,blue collar with blue collar and any XYZ with XYZ.

So,these factors are a non point.

Community is ethnicity and it can exist without hurting one another.



Thats because the etnic group/community called vellalar/nadar is much older than christianity.

If the traditions include discrimination of other communities, then there is no point in continuing with those communities and their traditions. Assuming it will be replaced with something else as per your argument, atleast it will not be so rigid and set in stone like the existing traditions where the community is chosen based on his birth and not based on what he choose to do. If you take the history, that is when hinduism started poisoning itself with this evil. But I highly doubt that the caste system will go away and getting discrimination will atleast rid of some of the evil.

 

[Sashan]

Man needs order and a social stratification will always exist. Im not saying caste alone..but on economic, vocational..something or other..Then for some people it gives a sense of one-ness..and I'm also convinced that as strong is the reason that caste system contributed to conversions, it also acted as a check in another sense..I dont know if people are going to picturize what Im going to say..but let me try..when you see a surface being plastered on the floor, you would see the masons sometimes tapping a string onto the freshly laid cement forming an impression..then they criss cross it so that it results in large square patters on the floor..why that is done is because the cracks which may develop on one square would stop when it reaches the division and not spread into the other square..I believe the inherent inorganization the caste system brought to the Hindu society was also one of the reason why the islamic invasions were by and large not sucessful in conversions while more homogenous cultures like persia, egypt etc completely got converted..

so the need of the hour is to educate people so that one's caste remains just a matter of sub-identity to him and does NOT end up being a discrimination tool..its the discrimination based on caste that gave rise to conversions..caste can be just one identity like religion, language and people must respect the person for what he is and not what caste he is..





Not bad when compared to STs...and sachar committe itself was a highly politicized vote catching exercise.. and my doubts about that increased once I found that sachar was on the invitee list of Ghulam Nabi fai which advocates secession of kashmir..




+1..It can and it should..

The social stratification will exist but as you pointed out when the discrimination starts that is when the downhill starts. If you take the hindu religion, the communities existed based on what they were doing for a living - The poisoning started when those communities started drawing a hardline on who would belong to a particular community and who would not and the birth of a person started dictating to which community one belongs to.


As for Sachar committee report, I have quoted in several threads including in another thread, the methodology what he has used is highly questionable and I am not a fan of that report. But I have gone through the 425 page report and the conditions are mostly self-imposed by the muslims. As for the discrimination in different areas what he talks about, he does not come to a conclusion but uses the word "alleged" as it was due to his interviewing people from muslim community and so he recognizes it may be subjective.

 

[joekrish]

Nice excuse for running away!!



and 8 other Indian pdf members agreed to what I said .Dont tell me RSS is not communalist

They are or may be but that does not make some of your priests any better and you trying to defend them and cursing the RSS(though off topic and not needed} wearing a secular hat was funny.

Preaching Secularism is not the sole right of the minority, if you demand it from your fellow citizen learn to respect it.

what Hardliner ... which hard line did they take ???

Well......that depends on ones views.

 

[Iggy]

That is a pathetic comeback to save your tarnished honor My posts are always about facts and not opinions masquerading as facts.

I was not aware Priests are 'elected' by their congregation This is just too funny.

I am not a christian missionary ....... the only missionary I know is the missionary position Please stop embarrassing yourself.


BTW you can ask you friendly religious bigots to share an audited result of their local parish. Do something useful

Dude, I meant about you studied in a Missionary School.. It was a typo error.. Any way what tarnished honor?? Just because some bigots have no other better things to do but to foul mouth other religions for their utter failures, I should be ashamed of my self?? You got to do better than using foul language on my religion and me...



And where did I said Priests are 'elected' by their congregation?? I said day to day activities and financial control is done by a group of common people and priests elected from different churches..

Its work same as the parliament.. Elected representatives from different churches elect the persons and priests to handle day to day functions of the churches..

Your posts are not about facts, they are just bigoted view and religious intolrence from your side..

People like you think only Hindus are real patriots in this country..

You think rest of the religions are just sub standard people living under you!!..


People like you are no better than mullahs from the bordering countries of ours..
Dude, every churches conduct an yearly meeting for the members of the church and they discuss the financial transaction done in a fiscal year. Is that too hard for you to understand??

 

[Iggy]

Yes its becoming a big deal...trying to make Hindus as a votebank is considered communal while the opposite is considered secular..thats the issue..I have not seen one person on the "secular" side who has accepted that Congress and church are communal for influencing voters.

I agree with your point here.. I strongly condemn vote bank politics over religions.. Political parties made a joke out of the word "secular"

 

[bronxbull]

Nice excuse for running away!!



and 8 other Indian pdf members agreed to what I said .Dont tell me RSS is not communalist

People taking extreme positions cannot be described by these single word descriptions,people who dont want to or like to make a choice always try to come up with such verbose terminology for people actually making a choice,because they dont sit,talk and waste time like you.

try to understand something completely before using words to describe it.

I am pro nuclear and I dont want priest(who are obiviously not experts in nuclear physics and are misguided by those Anti-Nuke protestors) to interfere in Koodankulam issue..

But I never saw critisizing Medha Patkar,Sugathakumari,VS Achudhanandhan ,our paid Media or even SP Udayakumar
Hater too much?



I am in for prosecuting them...And wait till they come back....



Church is generally considered a vote bank of congress.Big deal in Indian Politics??The same way BJP is trying to make Hindhu community their votebank by adding communal colours to many issues like Aranmula Airport.

what BJP is doing is a consequence fo the former being the fomer,Hindu by nature are right liberal,they are getting pushed to the right edge because of the Congress's politics.

 

[bronxbull]

If the traditions include discrimination of other communities, then there is no point in continuing with those communities and their traditions. Assuming it will be replaced with something else as per your argument, atleast it will not be so rigid and set in stone like the existing traditions where the community is chosen based on his birth and not based on what he choose to do. If you take the history, that is when hinduism started poisoning itself with this evil. But I highly doubt that the caste system will go away and getting discrimination will atleast rid of some of the evil.

I think the only people who can complain are the SC/ST people,if at all.

Rest are just on a win-loss spree.

Nobody has become extinct my friend,the only compass we have is what the englishmen gave us,cant say much more.

I agree with your point here.. I strongly condemn vote bank politics over religions.. Political parties made a joke out of the word "secular"

condemning is not enough dude,if you want to be taken seriously.

If you desire to achieve a balance of ideologies Left-Left Liberal-Right Liberal-Right,you gotta do more than condemning things.

 

[Iggy]

condemning is not enough dude,if you want to be taken seriously.

If you desire to achieve a balance of ideologies Left-Left Liberal-Right Liberal-Right,you gotta do more than condemning things.

I for one does not vote for people because he is in my religion..

 

[zaxcolix]

...Just because some bigots have no other better things to do but to foul mouth other religions for their utter failures, I should be ashamed of my self?? You got to do better than using foul language on my religion and me...

Artificial self righteous anger on imagined narrative.....I think what you need is a better education to help you read and then understand what you read. Its as cheesy as it gets....

And where did I said Priests are 'elected' by their congregation?? I said day to day activities and financial control is done by a group of common people and priests elected from different churches..
Its work same as the parliament.. Elected representatives from different churches elect the persons and priests to handle day to day functions of the churches..

why are you explaining the working of a church to me ? Are you trying to convert me or something ? how is this even relevant ? Its already established that church receive foreign funds ......If you want to prove otherwise get me an audited balance sheet of your church ...else shut up and stop wasting everybody's time.

Your posts are not about facts, they are just bigoted view and religious intolrence from your side..

You are the intolerant bigot with a poor education and a limited intellect. Now unless you have some facts to post dont bother me ....... I dont entertain fools gladly. It makes me grumpy

People like you think only Hindus are real patriots in this country....You think rest of the religions are just sub standard people living under you!!..People like you are no better than mullahs from the bordering countries of ours..

Self styled 'Secularist' dishing out 'Certificates' to others ......add that with poor comprehension skills and limited ability to understand ...we have a disaster called seiko

Dude, every churches conduct an yearly meeting for the members of the church and they discuss the financial transaction done in a fiscal year. Is that too hard for you to understand??

why are you telling me how the church administration works ? .......just get us the audited financial statement of your church to show us there was no Foreign funds which is under discussion here. I know its hard for you to understand ...but read this twice ..that might help.

I for one does not vote for people because he is in my religion..

...so what do you want ? a certificate stating you are 'Secular' ? ask Bang Galore or Mk3 ...they are self styled notaries .... you are not so bad yourself ...why dont you just issue yourself that certificate and spare us the boy scout act.

 

[Iggy]

Artificial self righteous anger on imagined narrative.....I think what you need is a better education to help you read and then understand what you read. Its as cheesy as it gets....

Well better education wouldn't help remove the bigoted mindset of your's.. Keep on ranting, you might get somewhere.

why are you explaining the working of a church to me ? Are you trying to convert me or something ? how is this even relevant ? Its already established that church receive foreign funds ......If you want to prove otherwise get me an audited balance sheet of your church ...else shut up and stop wasting everybody's time.

Well genius, it was to help you understand that there no secret funds to send to all churches for converting bigoted idiots like you and all churches are working against the national interest of this country.. Why don't you go to a church near you and ask, most of the churches prints annual report to distribute among the members..

You are the intolerant bigot with a poor education and a limited intellect. Now unless you have some facts to post dont bother me ....... I dont entertain fools gladly. It makes me grumpy

There was a saying, "do not argue with an idiot, they will bring you down to their level and beat you with their experience".. Now I understand, it was meant mainly about you!!

Self styled 'Secularist' dishing out 'Certificates' to others ......add that with poor comprehension skills and limited ability to understand ...we have a disaster called seiko

Yup!! And you are the genius around here.. Just because everybody does not agree with you makes them stupid and dump..

why are you telling me how the church administration works ? .......just get us the audited financial statement of your church to show us there was no Foreign funds which is under discussion here. I know its hard for you to understand ...but read this twice ..that might help.

As I told you stop whining here and why don't you go to a church and they might have a printed copy of the financial transactions.. Do not worry. They won torture you.. Most of the priests are very kind which is hard for you to comprehend..