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[Koovie]

I dont care if I bash India, Pakistan or China. I care about India more than you.

You are doing a great job for India by writing nonstop BS on PDF from the USA.... keep it up you hardcore patriot

 

[Nisha]

You are doing a great job for India by writing nonstop BS on PDF from the USA.... keep it up you hardcore patriot

Whatever man, debate or move along.

 

[SRP]

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[Dillinger]

@desert warrior

Back off! I do not agree with her AND I do not want to hear anything about who started it first. No excuses and NO pretexts. EDIT YOUR COMMENT..NOW!
@Nisha..express you disagreement or acrimony without labeling people regardless of any circumstance..EDIT YOUR POSTS TOO!

 

[Koovie]

Look another lil ******. You are doing a great job doing absolutely nothing. Run along rapist

 

[Dillinger]

Koovie..bro.. disagreements regardless...reign them in bro..as a senior member.

 

[Nisha]

And that's where your logic is flawed.

Democracy works perfectly fine. AND its not as "western" as you think it is.

Villagers don't have a clue hunh? The said same villagers also went to the zilla parishad and forced them into building them a road quicker than my society office's letter got the MCD to clean up the dumpsters in my society...they know their rights pretty well when it suits them.

Lets not single out the villagers shall we..lets look at the holiest river in India which flows through plenty of urban and civilized cities and even the holiest of our cities. Let me give you a hint..ever seen floating corpses decomposing while people take a bath just a few meters away from them?

This is us..and its all of US.

As I said, governments don't change people but people constitute and elect the government.

By any chance do you appreciate Japanese precision, I know its old but still..their society..efficiency..quite a wonder no? AND an example that has been quoted so many times that it has become one of the worst cliches. Here's whats not quoted ever..the reason- "The ancients who wished to illustrate illustrious virtue throughout the world, first ordered well their own States. Wishing to order well their States, they first regulated their families. Wishing to regulate their families, they first cultivated their persons. Wishing to cultivate their persons, they first rectified their hearts....." That's a quote...figure it out.

Oh and that quote applies universally..got nothing to do with just Nippon.

Hold up. You were the one to throw th villagers under the bus not me. I stated some may be guilty of it, not all. Corruption is everywhere. In a place like India, its bad from the top -down. How can we establish rule of law when the very same ppl who frame such laws are corrupt. "The fish rots from the head down."



Whose responsibility is it to provide proper sewage? Drinking water? You can blame the people all you want, but unless the govt set a good example what can you possibly expect?



Japan's scenario is different. As a nation its virtues and system had never been broken. India was in shambles from islamic invasions to the Europeans. I definitely blame us. But I also think that sole part "US" is the easiest to fix because it as nothing to do with outsiders. The issue is we need to frame it correctly. In order to do so, the govt, the ppl and public will has to come together.


You have to build a concenus first. To do so, start using media to push forth ideas and the benefits. As it slowly seeps into the minds of ppl, it will motivate and push ppl to demand more change. This is the spark that starts a fire.




There have been gurus older than us in different times, who had the right ideas but lacked the goodwill of those in charge to impose sufficient change. What is truly holding us back now?


I like what you are conveying to me, cause it makes sense. But I ask you, how do we work together to resolve this. Or do you just give up. Im a fighter, what are you?



As for democracy, it has its merits but I don;t think its perfect system. Its a good system as long as citizens keep an eye on it. When we the ppl loose our focus, then it can be bad. Very bad. As for it being Western, I don't think it is. I was simply referring to it from an Indian perspective.




Even Bill Gates pointed out the flaws of building a city in India. He was referring to Mumbai and the lack of planning. He compared India to the Chinese, and noted how they make sure there is a Health commissioner included in every planning group. He also noted how sewage, roads, etc are all developed with the future in mind, so it can easily be increased to meet future demands.
You cannot blame ppl who are not educated on the subjects. This solely lies on govt, politicans, officials, etc. India may have a middle class that is equivalent to the entire US popualtion but it has a far bigger poor class.


Even Burma has conceded it wil educate it ppl fully. Why not us? I agree even the educational standards suck so why not make a heroic push to establish "Akash" as the primary means of educating our ppl, creating and investing in our own industry and etablishing uniform standards regardless of where you live or reside in India?

 

[SRP]

@desert warrior

Back off! I do not agree with her AND I do not want to hear anything about who started it first. No excuses and NO pretexts. EDIT YOUR COMMENT..NOW!

you don't know bro.. I tried very hard yesterday to convince her about maoists and India. But she show me her di** instead.

 

[Nisha]

you don't know bro.. I tried very hard yesterday to convince her about maoists and India. But she show me her di** instead.

Actually you didn;t try at all. You merely replied the same way you did today with foul language and no points. All emotion, all BS. In fact, it was Tshering who convinced me otherwise. You can go and look that up. That;s a FACT

 

[SRP]

Actually you didn;t try at all. You merely replied the same way you did today with foul language and no points. All emotion, all BS. In fact, it was Tshering who convinced me otherwise. You can go and look that up. That;s a FACT

I asked you for links. Did you give any link? Did I started talking abusive languages?

 

[Dillinger]

Hold up. You were the one to throw th villagers under the bus not me. I stated some may be guilty of it, not all. Corruption is everywhere. In a place like India, its bad from the top -down. How can we establish rule of law when the very same ppl who frame such laws are corrupt. "The fish rots from the head down."



Whose responsibility is it to provide proper sewage? Drinking water? You can blame the people all you want, but unless the govt set a good example what can you possibly expect?



Japan's scenario is different. As a nation its virtues and system had never been broken. India was in shambles from islamic invasions to the Europeans. I definitely blame us. But I also think that sole part US is the easiest to fix because it as nothing to do with outsiders. The issue is we need to frame it correctly. In order to do so, the govt, the ppl and public will has to come together.


You have to build a concenus first. To do so, start using media to push forth ideas and the benefits. As it slowly seeps into the minds of ppl, it will motivate and push ppl to demand more change. This is the spark that starts a fire.




There have been gurus older than us in different times, who had the right ideas but lacked the goodwill of those in charge to impose sufficient change. What is truly holding us back now?


I like what yoyu are conveying to me, cause it makes sense. But I ask you, how do we work together to resolve this. Or do you just give up. Im a fighter, what are you?

The Indian citizenry is not analogous to a fish. I referred to the villagers again exactly because my previous post had singled them out..I balanced it out for my own sake.

The fundamental mistake being made by you is holding to the assumption that a change in the government can change the populace..probably brought on by conflating a nation with a conventional organisation. In a conventional organisation or enterprise a top order shuffle, a change in guard can and does revitalize the organisation. Unproductive units are closed down and unproductive staff stream lined. Unfortunately in the case of a nation the said units and staff are analogous to its citizenry and the citizenry cannot be modified/closed down/streamlined.

And ergo I insist that while your passion is albeit admirable for its intensity it is misguided. You're a fighter..I am just a worker. These leaders rise from among us. And despite all the power that a babu wields..the babu still bleeds and the babu still dies but when the said babu dies the one who replaces him turns out to be equally corrupt. This scheme rinses and repeats itself over and over again ad infinitum and ad nauseum. So what does that tell us? That the pool they are rising from itself has been compromised.

Da Xue's words are not very different from the words of our own gurus. The reason for that is simple, those words are the result of the proper application of intellect. And intellect is a human trait which isn't unique to India and our gurus. It applies to us..as it applies to the Chinese (the people from among whom it originated) and to the Japanese (the people who adopted it) and to the west (the people who read it and learnt from it like they also drew wisdom from the works of our gurus).

 

[Nisha]

I asked you for links. Did you give any link? Did I started talking abusive languages?

Not sure if it was you or the other person. I would gladly gave links but it was the abuse I got that made me stick to my guns.

 

[SRP]

Not sure if it was you or the other person. I would gladly gave links but it was the abuse I got that made me stick to my guns.

Did I abused you yesterday? Look at that thread again. I asked links for your claims but from when you show me **** from that moment I gone mad. Sry for what I told. I edited my post and expect you to edit those posts what you told me and koovie bhai.

 

[Nisha]

The Indian citizenry is not analogous to a fish. I referred to the villagers again exactly because my previous post had singled them out..I balanced it out for my own sake.

The fundamental mistake being made by you is holding to the assumption that a change in the government can change the populace..probably brought on by conflating a nation with a conventional organisation. In a conventional organisation or enterprise a top order shuffle, a change in guard can and does revitalize the organisation. Unproductive units are closed down and unproductive staff stream lined. Unfortunately in the case of a nation the said units and staff are analogous to its citizenry and the citizenry cannot be modified/closed down/streamlined.

And ergo I insist that while your passion is albeit admirable for its intensity it is misguided. You're a fighter..I am just a worker. These leaders rise from among us. And despite all the power that a babu wields..the babu still bleeds and the babu still dies but when the said babu dies the one who replaces him turns out to be equally corrupt. This scheme rinses and repeats itself over and over again ad infinitum and ad nauseum. So what does that tell us? That the pool they are rising from itself has been compromised.

Da Xue's words are not very different from the words of our own gurus. The reason for that is simple, those words are the result of the proper application of intellect. And intellect is a human trait which isn't unique to India and our gurus. It applies to us..as it applies to the Chinese (the people from among whom it originated) and to the Japanese (the people who adopted it) and to the west (the people who read it and learnt from it like they also drew wisdom from the works of our gurus).

That was such a deep post! Thanks. If I could thank you a "Thanks" million times overs, I would. This was exactly what I was looking for. And you have no idea how this post just further convinces me of an idea that will help Mother India in a way that tries to resolve the issue you pointed out. Though it may be slow, I think it has the capacity to work. You are correct, changing govt is only part of the problem. Without changing the mindest of ppl, we will just end where we began.


Im just throwing ideas but a good, solid primary education that incorporates dynamic classes like governace and such may be good beginning. Though slow, these kids will eventually educate and teach their parents.



You have such a way with words! DId your dad seriously frame that program you mentioned? If so, is he still alive?

Did I abused you yesterday? Look at that thread again. I asked links for your claims but from when you show me **** from that moment I gone mad. Sry for what I told. I edited my post and expect you to edit those posts what you told me and koovie bhai.

Im sorry too. ....I understand we all get flustered at times and nobody likes to hear bad things about their country, true or false. Let's move on and be more constuctive. I only use this site to interact with other Indians to gain perspectives and help in some small way. Peace!

 

[Dillinger]

That was such a deep post! Thanks. If I could thank you a "Thanks" million times overs, I would. This was exactly what I was looking for. And you have no idea how this post just further convinces me of an idea that will help Mother India in a way that tries to resolve the issue you pointed out. Though it may be slow, I think it has the capacity to work. You are correct, changing govt is only part of the problem. Without changing the mindest of ppl, we will just end where we began.


Im just throwing ideas but a good, solid primary education that incorporates dynamic classes like governace and such may be good beginning. Though slow, these kids will eventually educate and teach their parents.



You have such a way with words! DId your dad seriously frame that program you mentioned? If so, is he still alive?

I am just 22 so ya dad's "young" and alive.

We all have to throw ideas and try and work at them. Some times we get a little over board though..trust me..the posters you may be having confrontations with come in with the same passion as you. Nothing gets one up and sharp as operating in hostile territory.

He framed the particulars of the program..the initiative obviously was authorized by the MOE..as that was a policy decision of the ministers.