"Forced to hang my head in shame": Former Navy chief writes open letter to President Mukherjee, PM M

[SarthakGanguly]

They were on a plateau,,i think they will peak in some years.Probably has a lot to do with media etc.
Contrary to the established view,media has actually helped hindutva a lot.

Totally agree. But the credit does not go to the media. Even now, the media has kept up the offensive. And the knee jerk response has been the consolidation of the Hindus as a block.

 

[Butchcassidy]

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So much love amongst the liberals

Meri aankhein bhar aayein

 

[Hindustani78]

It already had Once in the Past in 1947.

Despite have not learned any lessons.

Still we feel pride in Sicular credentials. This Sicular Mentality will definitely going to divide it once again. Because we are very much worried about what will "Muslims" feel???

If something is good for others then that is also good for them. (Common Civil Code) why they oppose good things in the society?

This appeasement will again going to divide the country we are already late too late.

Other countries have adopted atribution laws but atleast Indian system is not playing in here.

 

[deckingraj]

Are they getting a secure environment??
I don't think so and neither does any minority.
I challenge u to ask any practicing sikh,muslim or a christian this question.
I am out as i don't follow a religion.
It does not matter what u think but what the other 20% are thinking.And trust me the levels of distrust were never higher.
Sadly there is no cure for this hate now,,too freaking late.

May i know on what basis you have made those two bold and tall statements? Can you back your claims with some scientific study or is your opinion based on some hear say in Media?? Keep in mind Media is predominantly private and lure for profits can overpower ethics in seconds......

When i was a kid there used to be jokes around(a usual childhood banter)....you want riots.. cut a cow and throw in front of a temple...or cut a pig and throw in front of a mosque...There was no Hindu government in the center then, so may i ask why do you think me as a child had that kind of thought?? This is because Indians are the most secular and unsecular people at the same time... We are secular as long as no body is messing with my religious beliefs...once you do that all bets are off....Has any of that changed now?? Religious fanatics were there, are there and will always be there....Now your another comment about some and new found boldness in Hindu Fanatics due to a hindu govt warrants some discussion.... Would you agree with me that Law and Order is a state subject?? Center can't do jack about anything unless and until state govt gives its blessings.....Do i need to write the rest of the plot??

Also food for thought - More than 90% of large scale riots in this country has happened under the secular brigade....can anyone deny that...?? So how come minorities are feeling scared now.....Just for records I am a SIKH....

 

[Styx]

Section of Indian civil society is introspecting to what seems like a sectarian issue, but that doesn't mean that our neighbors start to insinuate that India has become a non-tolerant state. We are still constitutionally the same as we were couple of years ago. Law and order situations are a challenge. And the doom and gloom being presented here is an exaggeration.

Incidents that have happened over killing a man over beef or dalit house being burnt is despicable, but our neighbors trying to score brownie points over it must also look at thier internal situation where minorities are pulled out of buses to be shot, blown up in their house of prayer. This holier that thou attitude that is being shoved at our face without any introspection needs re calibration, my post was to point at the same.

honestly, this is the worst kind of 'measuring' contest one could have, a truly pathetic race to the bottom... but, they lost 20 odd minority to suicide blasts these past couple days, and are out to lecture us, some of them.. seriously

the poor world sucks.


the middle east is worse.

parts of the poor world wanting to middle east themselves, pathetic.

 

[Hindustani78]

Just doesnt understand why we Indians should play with our citizens in the name of uniform civil code.

We are having very huge population and our judiciary system is capable of solving cases under fast track.

 

[DesiGuy]

Ur statement is plain stupid to say the least.
Therefore excuse urself from this discussion where u have nothing to contribute as u don't know the ground realities.

if you are too stupid to understand "cause and effect", its not my fault.

Like i said before: Muslims needs to be role models for every non-muslim in the world. It doesn' t matter how much non-muslims bend, Kashmiri pundits did bend and the results are front of you.

 

[Hindustani78]

if you are too stupid to understand "cause and effect", its not my fault.

Like i said before: Muslims needs to be role models for every non-muslim in the world. It doesn' t matter how much non-muslims bend, Kashmiri pundits did bend and the results are front of you.

Role models for being cultured and civilized enough to live thier lifes free even when the survelliance systems are being placed on them just because they are Indians.

Problem here are the survelliance systems which are being placed on Indian citizens irrespective of their religion.

 

[lightoftruth]

Nope government is not and neither is media.
Thats all propaganda,,its squarely due to divisions on the ground and these divisions are not created by bjp all ofsudden.

No,they existed for centuries but rss/bjp are acting as a catalyst to take this to a whole new level and are trying to call an eye for an eye.In other words trying to compete with other communities and nations in intolerance index and are actually moving up quite fast.

Problem is we have 200 crore of these other people whom RSS etc are trying to tame and its just not possible.Its a futile effort which will lead bjp to victories but will fracture what was already a cracked india.

What guarantee is they will stop at this?
What if they ban alcohal tomorrow?What if they start implementing whats written in vedas tomorrow??

This is all a possibility,,,people of india are stupid and gullible already and could be easily moulded in any direction.

200 20.
Indian society is not that easy to understand by census numbers,religions are divided on caste/sects/language/cultural ways, similarly many religions follow their ancestral practices which were of different religion.So generalization is most probably faulty.

Do you think RSS ever stopped ? killings over cows are new ? Do you think RSS has less supporters in Congress,SP,JDU ? Many of these parties are direct result of emergency in India and RSS never broke their relationship.

Constitution is supreme, their are limits, with courts.
read the constituent assembly http://parliamentofindia.nic.in/ls/debates/vol7p12.htm discussion on ban on cow slaughter, it was an issue then it is an issue now.

don't worry about alcohol it is amongst high revenue generation commodity.

 

[Raja.Pakistani]

Honourable President and Honourable Prime Minister,
It is with a heavy heart, that I write this open letter to you at a time when our beloved country and people are facing severe challenges and threats to our shared heritage.
I have served in the Armed Forces of India - joining soon after Independence as a 14 year old, to end up 45 years later Chief of the Indian Navy [1990 to 1993] I have witnessed many transitions in India - from the horrors of partition in 1947 to the very different world of digital connectivity that we see today.
I also write to you as one who was brought up in the Hindu faith. However, the Hinduism I knew and experienced was gentle, inclusive, and filled with extraordinary diversity. My religion taught me values of love and respect for all beings. My brand of Hinduism was not filled with the kind of violence, intolerance represented by the current brand of "Hindutva" that seems to be fanning the flames of division and fear across the country.
Today, as a veteran in my eighties, I am forced to hang my head in shame as I witness a series of incidents and assaults on our fellow citizens, especially minorities and Dalits. Our armed forces which I have had the honour to serve for 45 years, have been an exemplar of India's secular ethos. Be it in ships and submarines, or in planes and battle formations, we do not discriminate on the basis of caste or religion - we train, we fight, we live, we eat and we die together.
So why are we bearing witness to increasing attacks on minorities across the country, ever since the present government came to power in May 2014? It appears that certain communities are being singled out for special attention - for instance Muslims. Today a Muslim has to prove his or her loyalty, and they are being repeatedly put in a situation where their places of worship are under attack, as indeed their eating habits, and other basic freedoms. The instances of completely unacceptable and unilateral mob behaviour leading to many deaths as well as direct insinuations being made by senior leaders, are too numerous and well known to be repeated.
There seems to be a systematic and well orchestrated attempt to impose a majoritarian single point agenda of creating a Hindu Rashtra in India - led by the RSS and their network of groups, which is disturbing to say the least. This in turn has resulted in a dangerous pattern of mob behaviour including intimidating and lynching people merely on the basis of rumours - in total disregard for the established rule of law. In many cases those responsible for implementing the law, have themselves displayed blatant partisan tendencies and behaviour.
Most shocking of all is the fact there has been no unambiguous condemnation of such actions and behaviour by those at the helm of affairs in the country. Sadly, time and time again, the response of the government seems to indicate an almost studied, but certainly not benign, indifference. The co-ordinated response of those in government seems to be to downplay the serious and vicious nature of these allegations and attacks - by terming them 'sad' and 'unfortunate' - whereas there should be outrage and a demonstrated will to ensure that this society will not tolerate such behaviour. That there are MPs, Cabinet ministers and elected Chief Ministers who are in the forefront of these comments and actions, leads one to believe that the ruling party and its satellite organisations are working to a plan.
I do not need to point out to the top leadership today, that this is playing with fire in a nation where minorities - especially Muslims and Christians, as also Dalits and adivasis, are already feeling discriminated and marginalised. Instead of treating this amazing diversity as our strength, today we are being seen by the international community as increasingly insular, parochial, intolerant, racist and even fascist. The violence visited upon vulnerable sections reinforces the image of India as an imperfect democracy where all forms of dissent are discouraged and human rights trampled upon with impunity.
The Prime Minister and his ministers in the government are sworn in by the President of India, and they take an oath pledging to uphold the Indian Constitution. Their failure to do so, as evidenced in the foregoing, is a serious matter and does not augur well either for national security or national integrity. The Central and State Governments must act swiftly, unequivocally condemn all such incidents and ensure that justice will be done and the guilty are punished. Such action alone will have a salutary deterrent effect on all those, be they fringe or mainstream, who are speaking and acting in many voices that are totally against and inimical to, our traditional ethos and the syncretic culture of our country and its people.
India represents a unique blend of peoples and cultures which have evolved over 5000 plus years in a constantly changing and dynamic process. This diversity and unique nature of our society and people can probably never be replicated anywhere on this earth - and for this reason alone, the concept of a single religious identity or mono culture represents an insult to this ancient civilisational heritage.
Honourable Mr President, Honourable Mr Prime Minister, you have both sworn to honour the right of every single citizen to freedom of speech, worship, association as brilliantly articulated in the Indian Constitution. As a former serviceman and a veteran, like you, I too have promised to uphold the same constitution. It is our bounden duty that the elected Government of this nation must honour the rights of every citizen of this land as amply spelled out in the Preamble of the Constitution and further elaborated in the Directive Principles of state policy. As Supreme Commander and the Chief Executive - this is what you must ensure and implement by all the powers vested in you by the people of India.
If we do not stem the rot now - it might be too late. Indeed we the people of India look to you to take all steps necessary to restore faith in our democracy and in the promise of bringing dignity, fraternity and equality to each of our citizens.
Admiral L. Ramdas

"Forced to hang my head in shame": Former Navy chief writes open letter to President Mukherjee, PM Modi - The Times of India

Brilliant. India need more patriot people like him to come forward and express their genuine concern over this rise of intolerance and extremism by Hinduvats

 

[Hindustani78]

Brilliant. India need more patriot people like him to come forward and express their genuine concern over this rise of intolerance and extremism by Hinduvats

You really dont understand Indians.

Once the flag comes they forget everything.

 

[Raja.Pakistani]

You really dont understand Indians.

Once the flag comes they forget everything.

Off course i cannot understand all Indians because they are all different from extremist to moderate and from moderate to liberal etc . I appreciate the sane voices. We were saying exactly same thing what this ex navy chief said but we were labelled as hater while he is patriot

 

[Hindustani78]

Off course i cannot understand all Indians because they are all different from extremist to moderate and from moderate to liberal etc . I appreciate the sane voices. We were saying exactly same thing what this ex navy chief said but we were labelled as hater while he is patriot

Indians are not extremists but very mild people and all are having thier views. we are very open society when its about open debates.

 

[Mirza Jatt]

What happened in Dadri was terribly sad, but now it is becoming a reason for unnecessary India bashing. Govt should ensure no such incident takes place in future but If we dont move forward and be stuck to this incident, then it will do more harm than good to us.

 

[AugenBlick]

Govt should ensure

which govt.?