For Israel, the new road to peace runs through Mecca

[Solomon2]

For Jews to think that the road to their legitimacy in Israel will come from convincing the Saudis is a disgusting assumption -

"A critical mass of Arabs, Muslims and leftists still struggle with Israel’s historic legitimacy, leading us all to constantly overplay our hand"

...The Saud Family does not represent Islam or the interests of Rasool Allah -

When new thinking on any issue is instantly labeled treacherous, only inward looking violently inbred and dogmatic ideologies such as jihadism can thrive.

...It is land theft on a grand scale -

...Go and read what the Jewish Sanhedrin says about both Jesus (Peace be upon Him) and Maryam (Radi Allahu Tallah). You will be disgusted. These Zionists are animals.

Our unwillingness to hear outside our own echo chambers has severely limited our ability to innovate solutions. It is post-truth.

...there will be peace on this Earth and you Zionists will not be a part of it because you have demolished the Middle east. You should be ashamed of yourself.

We have allowed our political, religious, and ideological tribalism to shape our emotional response.

I am a Sunni but Israel cannot be legitimized.

Like a broken record, we are guilty of repetitive sloganeering, lazy thinking, emotional decision-making, and a dogmatic approach to what should be the art of politics.

 

[NakedLunch]

"A critical mass of Arabs, Muslims and leftists still struggle with Israel’s historic legitimacy, leading us all to constantly overplay our hand"

When new thinking on any issue is instantly labeled treacherous, only inward looking violently inbred and dogmatic ideologies such as jihadism can thrive.

Our unwillingness to hear outside our own echo chambers has severely limited our ability to innovate solutions. It is post-truth.

We have allowed our political, religious, and ideological tribalism to shape our emotional response.


Like a broken record, we are guilty of repetitive sloganeering, lazy thinking, emotional decision-making, and a dogmatic approach to what should be the art of politics.

All this nonsense means nothing to me. Do you understand that? There are weaker people here who will buy your snake oil but I know what Isra-Hell is and what you Israelis are. Israel has NO right to exist. It really is that simple. If you think there is a Pakistani that can argue with me on this point then send that poof to me.

 

[Solomon2]

...If you think there is a Pakistani that can argue with me on this point then send that poof to me.

Israel has been the perennial “what about” excuse used by Arab despots seeking to silence their domestic opponents as “Zionist collaborators.”

NL, I can see you're getting really worked up. Perhaps chamomile instead of ginger tea?

 

[NakedLunch]

Israel has been the perennial “what about” excuse used by Arab despots seeking to silence their domestic opponents as “Zionist collaborators.”

NL, I can see you're getting really worked up. Perhaps chamomile instead of ginger tea?

Dont even try and be clever with me. I had a Jewish English teacher. LOL!

 

[Solomon2]

Dont even try and be clever with me. I had a Jewish English teacher. LOL!

Whereas all I've had is a Pakistani lunch?

 

[hussain0216]

The basic premise of this article is that we should excuse israel its occupation and apartheid because arab despots are worse

whilst we need to and should hold all arab despots accountable and look to hang em

none of that excuses israels occupation and oppression of the Palestinians


This article simply tries to absolve israel because there are worse things in the world?

What drivel!

 

[Qutb-ud-din Aybak]

Peace is an illusion, like heaven on earth.

Greater israel is actually death.

 

[R Wing]

And what can or would ISRAEL offer to Saudi Arabia in return ???

First of all you cannot contain Iran that easily.

Above all where Palestinians figure in this equation ?

The Saudis are willing to go to bed with anyone that can help them contain Iran or any other sort of threat to the undemocratic royal family --- from Israel to terrorist groups in Syria.

 

[Spring Onion]

The Saudis are willing to go to bed with anyone that can help them contain Iran or any other sort of threat to the undemocratic royal family --- from Israel to terrorist groups in Syria.

Well every country has the right to do so.


The logical question here is that if Israel benefits from alliance with Saudi Arabia then what Israel can offer to KSA in return ?

How can Israel-KSA alliance benefit Palestinians ?

Where are Palestinians in this equation ?

Israel cannot contain Iran hence she seeks help of Arab nations so your assumption is not on spot that much.

 

[Solomon2]

The logical question here is that if Israel benefits from alliance with Saudi Arabia then what Israel can offer to KSA in return ?

Did you read the article? You have it backwards. It discusses what Israel can offer KSA: a military alliance against Iran. In return Israel gets "recognition" (which experience shows can be withdrawn) and maybe security improvements. Not much in return for the pledge of Israeli blood, is it?

Where are Palestinians in this equation ?

The Palestinian Arabs? I dunno. Shopping, maybe? Here's the latest from Gaza:

Truly sane Arabs and Muslims understand that they have very little moral or legal claims against Israel and its Jews; certainly far less than what the Jews could cite against them. Resolutions of the U.N., E.U., etc., are merely to appease extremists. So many Palestinian Arabs would prefer to live and let live - as much as the "Palestinian" terror masters and politicians ruling them permit, anyway.

 

[Natan]

Greater israel is actually death.

"Greater Israel" is a horror story you keep telling each other among your kind. What we care about is one Israel between Jordan river and the sea.

 

[EgyptianAmerican]

Solomon has officially gone insane, this will never happen. This is just a stupid idea and will never come into reality.

they have very little moral or legal claims

Wrong, almost all Sane Muslims and Arabs see that they have a LOT of claims on Palestine. It's the insane ones that don't.

 

[Solomon2]

Solomon has officially gone insane, this will never happen. This is just a stupid idea and will never come into reality.
Wrong, almost all Sane Muslims and Arabs see that they have a LOT of claims on Palestine. It's the insane ones that don't.

Oh, that's me defining "sanity" as based upon facts in context. I have met Arabs who define "sanity" as a matter of the individual adhering to accepted social norms - which may not be fact-based at all.

 

[EgyptianAmerican]

accepted social norms

no

 

[Qutb-ud-din Aybak]

"Greater Israel" is a horror story you keep telling each other among your kind. What we care about is one Israel between Jordan river and the sea.

deny it???
deny your religious beliefs that messiah would come without greater israel plans.