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[DavidSling]

Pakistanis are thousands of mile away from Israel . Pakistan has " indirect trade relation with Israeli and Israeli companies" . Paul Simon was one of most favorite person among Pakistani politicians. If you know Paul Simon. Pakistani are no prejudice , but creation of state of Israel bring huge unstability in the region

Cause ISIS and Al qaida terror activities brought peace and tranquility to the region and to the world.
Israel brought more advancement and progress in science than Pakistan can only dream on, and yet, Pakistan wars weren't peaceful either right?

 

[MadDog]

The key word in your sentence is "show". As a rule, Pakistanis in Pakistan are only shown information about Israel if it can be spun to "show" Israeli Jews in a negative light.

Once indoctrinated, Pakistanis usually show blind loyalty to a particular narrative and will forever see Israel's actions through such glasses, even when they move elsewhere. It's a cultural trait Arabs and Pakistani educators are well aware of.

Bullcrap, there are plenty of Pakistanis willing to accept Israel as a state and believe in 2 state solution, however while you place a Pakistani flag in your display pic, your posts are drenched in Pakistanphobia , all of my Israeli friends knew Pakistan as an arab country, I had to explain it 70% of the muslims are non arabs, no wonder you're mentioning Pakistanis & Arabs in the same breath !!!

Israel is not in our region & it is the least of our concerns...Pakistan is becoming regionally & economically integrated into EuroAsian landmass through CPEC & One road One belt initiative, we have become the 1st country to defeat a full fledged insurgency thus reaping benefits of our geostrategic location, please end your obsession with us, focus more on your volatile neighbourhood, your existence & future is in a questionable state keeping in mind the poor performance of your forces against a small sectarian group like hezbullah !!!

 

[Solomon2]

Pakistanis are thousands of mile away from Israel .

Yep. You know what Pakistani politicians are like. If they don't tell the truth about what you can see with your own eyes, why would you believe their claims about a people thousands of miles away they invoke as scapegoats?

Paul Simon was one of most favorite person among Pakistani politicians.

Umm, what?

If you know Paul Simon. Pakistani are no prejudice , but creation of state of Israel bring huge unstability in the region

Is the extermination of the Jews of the Middle East the sort of "stability" you're looking for? "Stability" isn't always desirable, HAIDER.

 

[HAIDER]

Yep. You know what Pakistani politicians are like. If they don't tell the truth about what you can see with your own eyes, why would you believe their claims about a people thousands of miles away they invoke as scapegoats?

Umm, what?

Is the extermination of the Jews of the Middle East the sort of "stability" you're looking for? "Stability" isn't always desirable, HAIDER.

Well, its political slogan, its question of reach out. Isreali fought arab nationalism , not Islam. Gamal Nasir was nationalist . But Jews been hurt more by other religion not by muslims. Should be coexistence with mutual respect and rights.

 

[Solomon2]

Bullcrap, there are plenty of Pakistanis willing to accept Israel as a state and believe in 2 state solution -

Publicly?

...all of my Israeli friends knew Pakistan as an arab country -

I'm an American. I had Pakistani neighbors as a kid. They actually spoke English better than my own parents. I never thought of Pakistan as an "Arab" country.

Israel is not in our region & it is the least of our concerns...

Are you sure? Pakistan's Higher Education Commission considers pro-Israel portrayals as "contrary to the ideology and principles of Pakistan". Sounds like a pretty high concern, yes?

...Pakistan is becoming regionally & economically integrated into EuroAsian landmass through CPEC & One road One belt initiative -

100 years ago France and Germany were extremely integrated economically yet that didn't prevent a long and devastating war between them, as their conflicting nationalisms swelled in proportion to their increase in mutual wealth.

....please end your obsession with us -

Americans are indeed becoming obsessed with Pakistan. There's just been too many incidents over the past two decades of terrorism in the U.S. with Pakistani connections.

On the other hand, have you considered why Pakistan is obsessed with Israel? What is a Pakistani to do once he realizes that ALL the negative things said to delegitimize and demonize the Jews of Israel since the founding of Pakistan have been garbage? Can a Pakistani swallow pride and grow courage enough to challenge the dominant narrative, even to the point of shaming his relatives?

Oh, you've confused Paul Simon the singer with Paul Simon the politician - they're two different people.

But Jews been hurt more by other religion not by muslims. Should be coexistence with mutual respect and rights.

You can point to that in Israel far more often than in other states in the Middle East, yes?

 

[HAIDER]

Publicly?

I'm an American. I had Pakistani neighbors as a kid. They actually spoke English better than my own parents. I never thought of Pakistan as an "Arab" country.

Are you sure? Pakistan's Higher Education Commission considers pro-Israel portrayals as "contrary to the ideology and principles of Pakistan". Sounds like a pretty high concern, yes?

100 years ago France and Germany were extremely integrated economically yet that didn't prevent a long and devastating war between them, as their conflicting nationalisms swelled in proportion to their increase in mutual wealth.

Americans are indeed becoming obsessed with Pakistan. There's just been too many incidents over the past two decades of terrorism in the U.S. with Pakistani connections.

On the other hand, have you considered why Pakistan is obsessed with Israel? What is a Pakistani to do once he realizes that ALL the negative things said to delegitimize and demonize the Jews of Israel since the founding of Pakistan have been garbage? Can a Pakistani swallow pride and grow courage enough to challenge the dominant narrative, even to the point of shaming his relatives?

Oh, you've confused Paul Simon the singer with Paul Simon the politician - they're two different people.

You can point to that in Israel far more often than in other states in the Middle East, yes?

I am talking about Late senator Paul Simon .

Publicly?

I'm an American. I had Pakistani neighbors as a kid. They actually spoke English better than my own parents. I never thought of Pakistan as an "Arab" country.

Are you sure? Pakistan's Higher Education Commission considers pro-Israel portrayals as "contrary to the ideology and principles of Pakistan". Sounds like a pretty high concern, yes?

100 years ago France and Germany were extremely integrated economically yet that didn't prevent a long and devastating war between them, as their conflicting nationalisms swelled in proportion to their increase in mutual wealth.

Americans are indeed becoming obsessed with Pakistan. There's just been too many incidents over the past two decades of terrorism in the U.S. with Pakistani connections.

On the other hand, have you considered why Pakistan is obsessed with Israel? What is a Pakistani to do once he realizes that ALL the negative things said to delegitimize and demonize the Jews of Israel since the founding of Pakistan have been garbage? Can a Pakistani swallow pride and grow courage enough to challenge the dominant narrative, even to the point of shaming his relatives?

Oh, you've confused Paul Simon the singer with Paul Simon the politician - they're two different people.

You can point to that in Israel far more often than in other states in the Middle East, yes?

No, actually media is now free.

 

[Solomon2]

No, actually media is now free.

Then would you say Pakistanis (outside schools and universities, of course) are free to change their minds and publicly endorse Israel?

 

[MadDog]

Then would you say Pakistanis (outside schools and universities, of course) are free to change their minds and publicly endorse Israel?

Yes they are already doing it...tons of news articles & discussions are there in Pak media debating why we should recognize Israel especially interms of defence equipment imports !!! The handshake between ex FM Khursheed Kasuri & Silvan Shalom...Musharaf's address to American Jewish congress calling for 2 state solution followed by Pak's recognition of Israel are real life examples too !!!
As far as US-Pak terror question u pointed out is concerned...Pak arrested most wanted al-qaeda terrorists more than any country did, it was successful interms of defeating an insurgency where US & its allies failed right across the border , so dont use 1-2 incidents to generalize everything !!!
Don't forget the memorable pics of President Reagan with Jallaludin Haqqani & Gulbudin Hekmatyar in Oval Office declaring them moral equivalents of founding fathers of US !!! US was equally as responsible as Pak interms of creating this menace in 1st place !!!

 

[Solomon2]

... The handshake between ex FM Khursheed Kasuri & Silvan Shalom...Musharaf's address to American Jewish congress calling for 2 state solution followed by Pak's recognition of Israel are real life examples -

Conditional recognition = endorsement for terror against the Jews. No moral benefit to Pakistan in that.

Don't forget the memorable pics of President Reagan with Jallaludin Haqqani & Gulbudin Hekmatyar in Oval Office declaring them moral equivalents of founding fathers of US !!! US was equally as responsible as Pak interms of creating this menace in 1st place !!!

The Chinese say, "Feed a man a fish and you've fed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you've fed him for a lifetime."

The Chinese do NOT say, "Teach a man to fish and you're responsible for whatever evil he chooses after that forever and ever."

 

[KevArooshi]

So according to you I'm Pakistani, but according to other indians I'm Chinese.
So what's the truth?

Ask your mother.

 

[oproh]

Ask your mother.

Why should I do that indian?

 

[MadDog]

Conditional recognition = endorsement for terror against the Jews. No moral benefit to Pakistan in that.

The Chinese say, "Feed a man a fish and you've fed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you've fed him for a lifetime."

The Chinese do NOT say, "Teach a man to fish and you're responsible for whatever evil he chooses after that forever and ever."

Naa my friend, the west was our partner in crime for all of this, including your beloved Israel, which airlifted weapons to Pakistan to be given to these Afghan militants to fight Soviets.

 

[KevArooshi]

isis meaning was: israili secret inteligence serivce.. so now they are seving their own people who are fighting with Muslims.

I need to have a word with your guardians. Your literacy skills are disgraceful.

Why should I do that indian?

Because i, your father, big brother - says so. Thanks