FK-3 Chinese Surface-to-Air Missile System Details

[aliaselin]

No one gives ToT on top-of-the-line items. What is it -- Jumma Bazaar?



Is it? Any links for details?

The launcher truck for HQ-12 is very special：

Moreover，the minimum altitude is the same number: 50m

 

[batmannow]

Pakistan should have it!
It's been a long long time , that our weak air defences needed a real monster which any of cowboys in the air , would be affraid off?
Our mind sets aren't there for us, deep defence all ways established after long range air defences in modern military setups!

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

F-K3 look wonderful specially against 4th generation jets a great addition to ground defences

 

[WaLeEdK2]

Pakistan should have it!
It's been a long long time , that our weak air defences needed a real monster which any of cowboys in the air , would be affraid off?
Our mind sets aren't there for us, deep defence all ways established after long range air defences in modern military setups!

Have we had any talks with the Chinese yet about purchasing these?

 

[Basel]

Maybe Pakistan could cooperate with China to develop a type of high altitude SAM, it won't be that expensive.

Pakistan & China must work on joint air & missile defense system to handle any threat, like US is doing with other countries.

 

[aliaselin]

无翼导弹操纵特性及控制技术研究’等7项重点预研课题的研究成果，已成功应用于国家重点型号。她还攻克了静不稳定导弹控制关键技术等多个难题，为复合制导关键技术的突破提供了理论支撑

Compared to HQ-12/KS-1A, missle for FK-3 have not fins
By the way, the home used one may be called HQ-22

 

[jupiter2007]

Pakistan should try for Korean Missile

KM-SAM - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The KM-SAM which is also known as the Cheolmae-2 or Cheongung or M-SAM is a South Korean medium range surface-to-air missile (SAM) system.

The Cheolmae 4-H was to be an upper tier interceptor designed to take down ballistic missiles. It was to offer capabilities similar to that of the American Terminal High Altitude Area Defense missile with a range of 150 km (93 mi) and ceiling of 200,000 ft (61 km). Performance levels were to be twice as superior to the Patriot and Cheolmae II missiles, and was expected to be based on the Russian S-400 technology.[2]

 

[Reichsmarschall]

FK-3 is based on HQ-12, and not the latest generation

What is the name of most advanced chinese bulid SAM??? what are its specifications
Thanks in advance

 

[kaonalpha]

Might I ask who shared this information with you ? This was not supposed to be disclosed.

Pakistan is buying Air Defence systems from China and also looking to buy from South Africa and Italy and Germany.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Well it is no secret this thread is running for 2 years and we hear the same statement of intent

 

[Zarvan]

Might I ask who shared this information with you ? This was not supposed to be disclosed.

I read it in some news paper or website can't remember correctly but I read it somewhere.
What I clearly remember is I read this when Army Chief was on Italy's visit.

 

[Penguin]

Pakistan should try for Korean Missile

KM-SAM - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The KM-SAM which is also known as the Cheolmae-2 or Cheongung or M-SAM is a South Korean medium range surface-to-air missile (SAM) system.

The Cheolmae 4-H was to be an upper tier interceptor designed to take down ballistic missiles. It was to offer capabilities similar to that of the American Terminal High Altitude Area Defense missile with a range of 150 km (93 mi) and ceiling of 200,000 ft (61 km). Performance levels were to be twice as superior to the Patriot and Cheolmae II missiles, and was expected to be based on the Russian S-400 technology.[2]

The KM-SAM is the middle-tier of South Korea's three-tier aerial and missile defense system. Though it was developed in Russia by the Almaz Design Bureau with assistance from Samsung Thales, LIG Nex1, and Doosan DST, localization and industrialization were done in South Korea enough to consider it an indigenous system.

KM-SAM - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The 50R6 Vityaz missile system or S-350E is a Russian middle-range surface-to-air missile system developed by GSKB Almaz-Antey. Its purpose is to replace the S-300PS and S-300PT-1A. The system design traces its roots from the joint South Korean/Russian KM-SAM project.

Vityaz missile system - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[_NOBODY_]

What is the name of most advanced chinese bulid SAM??? what are its specifications
Thanks in advance

HQ-9
The HQ-9 is China’s new generation medium- to long-range, active radar homing air defense missile. It resembles the Russian S300 system, but China is assessed to have developed variants of the system with a longer range, potentially up to 230 kilometers.

The naval HQ-9 appears to be identical to the land-based variant. Its naval type HHQ-9 is equipped in the PLAN Type 052C Lanzhou class destroyer in VLS launch tubes. The land-based HQ-9 system has an anti-radiation variant, known as the FT-2000 for export. The export designation for the air defense version is FD-2000, and its marketer the China National Precision Machinery Import and Export Corporation (CPMIEC) first made it public at the Africa Aerospace and Defence Exhibition held at Cape Town in March 2009.

In September 2013 the HQ-9 submitted by CPMIEC won Turkey's T-LORAMIDS program to acquire 12 long range air defense systems.After Turkey decided to buy HQ-9 long-range air and missile defence system from a Chinese company, Foreign Ministry Spokesperson Hong Lei told a press conference on September 27, 2013. "The Chinese government carries out defence trade cooperation in a prudent and responsible manner. China's military export does no harm to peace, security and stability of relevant regions and beyond, nor does it interfere in the internal affairs of recipient countries. It is in strict consistence with China's relevant international obligations. The aforementioned cooperation between China and Turkey is defence trade cooperation under normal circumstances."

The land-based version of the long-range HQ-9 probably incorporated some technology from the Russian SA-10. The HQ-9 is designed to be a long-range SAM to counter high-performance aircraft, cruise missiles, air-to-surface missiles (ASMs), and tactical ballistic missiles (TBMs). Technology from advanced Western systems may also be incorporated into the HQ-9.

Much of China's more recent air defense modernization efforts extend from Beijing's observation of Western military campaigns beginning with the Gulf War in early 1991 and Operation ALLIED FORCE in mid-1999. During the Gulf War, the employment of precision-guided munitions, stealth aircraft, and airborne C4I apparently awakened Beijing to the limitations of its air defense capabilities. The design of the HQ-9 SAM reportedly was influenced by these observations, and plans were made to upgrade China's C4I system.

The HQ-9 is a program to develop a new long-range surface-to-air missile (SAM). The HQ-9 development effort may be based on a Chinese-designed missile motor, search and guidance hardware based on the Russian S-300PMU, and guidance technology from the American Patriot. China purchased four to six S-300PMU batteries (48 to 72 missiles) in 1991 and purchased an additional 120 missiles in 1994. In 1993 it was alleged that Israel had transferred a Patriot missile or missile technology to China, though Israel denied the charges. In 1997 the US Office of Naval Intelligence suggested that "technology from advanced Western systems may be incorporated into the HQ-9." A naval version of HQ-9 could be installed on the Luhai-class destroyers if the HQ-9 enters service. However, China is said to have encountered difficulties with the associated radar system, and it is unclear whether the PLA is currently funding this program.

China’s HQ-9, also known as FD 2000, surface-to-air missile system, was one of the main highlights of the Airshow China starts in Zhuhai in November 2012. As part of China’s new generation of medium-to-long range missiles, the HQ-9, features strong radar and air defence capabilities. Its strong command and control capabilities also allow it to coordinate with other weapons systems to form a multi-layered air defense network.

Two Type 052C (NATO codename: Luyang-II class) air defence guided missile destroyers have been built by Jiangnan Shipyard of Shanghai for the PLA Navy. A total of 48 indigenous HQ-9 air defence missiles are housed in eight 6-cell vertical launch systems (VLS). Unlike the Russian-style revolver VLS, the Type 052C’s VLS is fixed with each launch cell having its own lid. The missile system utilises the ‘cold launch’ method, in which the missile was first ejected from the launch tube, and then ignites its rocket engine at low altitude. This launch method avoids the complex flame and gas exhausting pipes on the Western-style ‘hot launch’ VLS, and also decreases damage to the ship structure caused by the rocket motor blast.

The HQ-9 in terms of speed alone is not comparable with the US-Russian anti-missile capability. The HQ-9 has the world's largest warhead [180-kg] to increase its lethalisty and integrated combat capability, compared with S-300PMU1, S-300V, PAC-2 warhead weights of 143 kg, respectively, 150 kg, 80 kg. Although the design is more traditional, but because the large weight, the destructive power is second only to the special design of its detonation device S-300V2.

The combat systems and C4I capability microelectronics appearance are of Western style and performance, and more impressive than the missile itself. Electronic technology is the HQ-9 advantage over the S-300, claimed to be almost equal to its level of sophistication similar products in Europe and America. Technical and performance of the HQ-9 missile itself had ordinary performance, but the very modern reliable phased array radar electronic equipment has great development potential. With the rapid development of military microelectronics industry, the HQ-9 can have better electronic equipment, one area where the S-300 series is really behind in a lot of technology. Some display and control consoles are a generation behind, a 5 to 10-year gap. However, the more integrated performance and system integration of advanced European, American and Russian air defense missile systems have the upper hand.

To compensate for the gap between hardware and software, so that overall performance close to the foreign level, a small amount of production of the HQ-9 was turned over to the military after the trials, the Institute had already developed its own modified missile programs, especially the propulsion system of technological innovation, including: establishment of high-energy fuel HTPB tactical missile production line; using high-quality fiber / epoxy composite motor case, to meet a variety of complex loading conditions, the shell strength and stiffness of the stringent requirements; nozzle technology to high-quality practical than red the introduction of new products, reduce the overall weight of the structure. After the the improvement measures, the mass production of HQ-9A performance will be quite different, especially in the anti-missile operations, with appropriate improvements and upgrades of electronic equipment will become an advanced dual-use advanced regional air defense missile system. Now the HQ-9A system is believed to be comparable in performance to the Russian S-300PMU1 (SA-20).

By 2010 China had deployed at least sixteen battalions of the more-capable S-300PMU1 (150 km range) and comparable domestically-produced HQ-9, along with at least eight battalions of the even-more- capable S-300PMU2 (200 km range). By 2013 China had started to produce an improved version of the HQ-9, the HQ-9A. with improved electronics and programming, the combat effectiveness of the latter even better, especially more powerful anti-missile capability.

We have HQ-9s and right now they are guarding very sensitive areas.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Pakistan Should work with Turkey / CHINA (People's republic of honorable)

Tier 0
FM-90 Series Chinese

Tier 1
(I N V E S T M E N T IS NEEDED Here)

Turkish Hisar-A Series

Turkish Hisar-O Series

• Big fan of Turkish tech, these two platforms are ideal
• The truck / static platforms
• The missile tech , looks solid
• Turkish friends are maturing the range further (Big PLUS)
• We need these for air bases / military bases of strategic importance cities

Tier 2
Chinese HQ-9 SERIES

I think if Pakistan & Turkey can agree on a PACKAGE for short/medium range missiles I would sleep tight , knowing the (Short/Medium) range is ample covered. Considering the brotherly ties we share with Turkey , I am sure we can really close a deal on this front

The 4-6 Missile carriage of the Turkish package is ideal for our needs and the Technology will mature further to Long range

• The defensive weapons are needed to fill a gap present in Air Based deference.

 

[Quwa]

The Army and Air Force selected the HQ-16 for their respective medium-range SAM requirements. Haris Khan from PakDef said the systems should be fully delivered by August of this year. But @kaonalpha, you mentioned on another thread that Pakistan was also looking at a South African SAM. If that is the case, then it is likely that the Umkhonto IR and/or R are being studied to operate as short-to-medium range fire-and-forget SAMs.