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Both Shepherd and Dai Toruko accounts belong to Hürşit, lol :-) Just bann him already.

Why should we have anything against Israelis? We had good relations with them since the 13th century, even during this heightened years after 2010 events, our export-import trade with them has tripled in just 7 years meanwhile it's getting less and less with other Middle Eastern countries...Jewish lobbies in the US are still one of only people alongside with Pakistanis and Somalis that support us.
 
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You dont do it and be proud of it.
But you did play the racist card, that's not fair.
Especially since there are many fake accounts.
I'm not saying that there are no fake accounts, but the religious or nationality of a person with fake account has nothing to do with the facts that he has fake account.
 
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Jews hide their identity. This is historically proven and it is not a secret.
Why are Jews ashamed for their identity?

That has to be one of the most generalized statements I've ever read on this forum.

Not sure where you're referring to. But in my country, every Jewish person that I know doesn't hide their identity and goes about their life like anybody else does.
 
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Both Shepherd and Dai Toruko accounts belong to Hürşit, lol :-) Just bann him already.

Rather you are the Hürşit.

I'm not saying that there are no fake accounts, but the religious or nationality of a person with fake account has nothing to do with the facts that he has fake account.

Your explanation is not an excuse to call people as racists.
The fake type has behaved like this. So my assumption have no bad intentions.


That has to be one of the most generalized statements I've ever read on this forum.

Not sure where you're referring to. But in my country, every Jewish person that I know doesn't hide their identity and goes about their life like anybody else does.

Did I say everyone is doing it? No!
 
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That has to be one of the most generalized statements I've ever read on this forum.

Not sure where you're referring to. But in my country, every Jewish person that I know doesn't hide their identity and goes about their life like anybody else does.

@DavidSling and @500 are persons who defend own/national interests except for some kindergarden childs or fake accounts. That my opinion which can be different for some others.
 
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@xenon54 Hani türkün türkten başka dostu yoktu? Nasıl kemalistsiniz siz yahu?
Ne alaka simdi?

You're right but he still has a point. The fact that Kreml agreed to produce this system outside of Russia is something really remarkable. The parts you've bolded are correct but yet noone knows the real capabilities of Turkey in the field of missile tech. We have got hints of several ongoing (more or less) secret projects but of course nothing's sure respectively signed yet. So, I guess, even Russia is taking a little risk at this point. I have this feeling that this project, if realised, will encourage an important breakthrough in our missile related R&D.

We'll get dozens of modern S400 missiles. You can't make me believe that we won't secretly "look" inside of one of these. What about the radar systems? Having them is good, it's also a kind of political leverage on Russia. Also keep in mind that Russia must be convinced that Turkey won't let NATO touch these systems. We all know they're already working on S500 but still it would help Western scientists a lot to have a profound insight of this system.

All in all, it's a deal I would describe as "acceptable" (= stopgap solution).

@Combat-Master

I have a question regarding the Yildirim missiles. Did we purchase blueprints or something like that or did we RE the missiles?
I wasnt even disqussing Turkeys capabilities, the thing is we will get no ToT on critical technologies, thats also what your article points out so calling the deal with ToT is just not correct, thats my point.

We will listen to you yanks and hey, even work with you sometimes. But the Turkish people will not submit to you - that's the Saudis job. Erdogan, luckily, it not immortal. Anyway, we'll get those f35s and you will sit there and watch like a good little boy. ;)
He is Indian false flagger who doesnt know anything about Turkey but barks a lot like the others of his sort.
Check his profile.

No F-35s to Turkey until Erdogan is gone.
No F-35 for India either. :bunny:

Jews hide their identity. This is historically proven and it is not a secret.
Why are Jews ashamed for their identity?
Maybe its not wise to show everywhere that you are a jew when you have been persecuted for most of your history, i dont know just an idea.
 
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It became a trollfest rather than defense forum.
I would like to see some unified turkish F35 thread with specs, unit symbols, local achievements and more.

The thread needs a Hazrat @Zarvan show for a good background to became how you wished!
 
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