First round of informal Pakistan-India talks begin in Islamabad

[undercover JIX]

Its madness for knowing things , curiousity. Its the good kinda madness. Trust me

OK you win, go and have a breakfast with fresh drink.

(Do not take in a wrong way) could be lassi, smoothie, tea...etc

 

[Pakhtoon yum]

Check the link i posted and confirm if its a neutral or pakistani source.

@masterchief_mirza @Pakhtoon yum @undercover JIX As you all bashed me for my unawareness of neutral source. I genuinely tried to find some. https://pakistaniat.com/2007/09/06/1965-war-a-different-legacy/comment-page-6/ Please check nd verify. This article also cites some other neutral sources to back. Hope its admissible to you.

Do you understand the meaning of academic sourse? Also you watch Pakistani shows obsession much

Having a demonstrable example of a fully automated idiot saves us the time otherwise wasted posting secondary evidence that idiots exist.


Wikipedia is basically written by Indians. Read the sources list at the end of any article about indopak issues and you will see it is populated with Indian texts. This is what we call bias. Such articles wouldn't stand up to scrutiny in a court of law or in any neutral agency, yet, as you say, Indians quote it relentlessly.

As our latest Indian friend himself admitted, the sheer weight of numbers in India of uneducated biased "authors" allows them to contribute an unabated stream of garbage into Wikipedia.... And yet the same poster would use this as his reference point.

To give you an example, here is the reference list for the wiki entry for "tiger hill battle". At best, there are 5 biased and 2 neutral sources, could be worse. An entry regarding a battle uses mainly references from one of the belligerents and totally ignores the other! Herodotus would be like Wtf!?

1. Wilson Prabhakar, Peter (2003). Wars, Proxy-wars and Terrorism: Post Independent India. Mittal Publications. p. 142.ISBN 9788170998907.
2. ^ Lavoy, Peter R., ed. (2009).Asymmetric Warfare in South Asia: The Causes and Consequences of the Kargil Conflict. Cambridge University Press. p. 190.ISBN 9781139482820.
3. ^ a b c d e f g Dutt, Sanjay (2000). War and Peace in Kargil Sector. APH Publishing. pp. 210–213.ISBN 9788176481519.
4. ^ a b Orton, Anna (2010). India's Borderland Disputes: China, Pakistan, Bangladesh, and Nepal. Epitome Books. p. 123.ISBN 9789380297156.
5. ^ Data India. Press Institute of India. 1999. p. 419.
6. ^ "Seven Hour Battle that won India, Tiger Hill". Bharat Rakshak. 18 May 2005. Archived from the original on 21 August 2009.
7. ^ Bisht, Rachana (2009). The Brave: Param Vir Chakra Stories. Penguin Books. p. Yoginder singh Yadav Ghatak. Retrieved 15 April 2017.

Yes I've read most of them, it's like that country pops out more pathological liars more then we breath, in a day.

I wish that was the standard for all the "facts" that gets posted here.

Cry me a river. Any sane person would trust a Pakistani source more then an Indian one, any day.

 

[Thorough Pro]

They probably only want us to open our air space for their airlines as that is really killing them.
Pakistan MUST NOT open it's airspace until and unless india apologizes for violation of our air space and pay a million doallar each for all 350 victims

 

[Chhatrapati]

That's rich coming from India, who has invaded mainland Pakistan multiple times in History.

haha all the time Pakistan started the war. Even in 1971, they attacked our forward base.

 

[Hamza913]

all the time Pakistan started the war

 

[Hamza913]

After losing half of the country

Stop being jealous that we've managed to rule over foreigners (unlike you guys).

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

After losing half of the country because of this trolling.

bangladesh is 1/6 The size of Pakistan. Less than 17% of the size of Pakistan. Since when did 1/6=1/2???????.......indian logic!................Also you conveniently forget August the 14th 1947 when a Muslim minority ripped, dismembered and open wide the legs of mother india to create Pakistan from conquered indian territory...............we didn't just take 17% of indian territory but over 35% of it to create Pakistan.................and there is NOTHING indian kind can do get that conquered territory back again........

haha all the time Pakistan started the war. Even in 1971, they attacked our forward base.

Can you please provide GENUINE, SOLID, RELIABLE, INDEPENDENT & IRREFUTABLE EVIDENCE for your claims?. If not then you are lying and making up stories like all other indians always do.

 

[Krptonite]

Honestly I'm just glad both sides are talking about it ( here too). We have too much pent up negative feelings and a complicated history to add to the fire. Might as well find a healthy outlet for it.

 

[Mirza Jatt]

This is completely BS.

 

[Hamza913]

This is completely BS.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sikh_holocaust_of_1746

 

[YeBeWarned]

Let them try but I doubt any positive will come out of these talks .

 

[masterchief_mirza]

After losin********************************is trolling.

No seriously you need to come to terms with the reality that we do not actually want peace. When we send you a love letter from the desk of IK "seeking talks" with a pretty stamp and signature, it is purely souvenir material for autograph hunters - and we know IK has many fans in India esp among its female population. We love that we stole 35% of hinduland from Hindutva and we are equally glad Bangladesh was lost - we really dodged a bullet there! What a basket case nation they are. Anyway, I digress. Point is, be at peace with the trolling and the hybrid war. We here in pk are at peace with the concept of perpetual war - I know right, whadda head f*c* that is!

As a bottom line, in terms of who fired what first shot on what hill from what Enfield rifle in 65 or 71....it's of no real relevance, as the war never really ceased or abated. Some time centuries ago, your lot chose to side with white folks to shaft your Muslim patrons and I don't think we've stopped fighting since. A decisive Kashmir resolution may sort things out but I doubt it. Point is, the war has been continuous. It's the same when someone says "x fired the first mortar today and it was unprovoked so x started the latest skirmish", when in reality that mortar was probably a response to yesterday's, which in turn was a response to the preceding day's.... etc etc. Indo Pak border is like NK SK border... no official end to hostilities. Just a perpetual great game.

 

[Mirza Jatt]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sikh_holocaust_of_1746

Vey smart... you mughals are so brave and smart ...wah !! Martial race !!

 

[xyxmt]

No Aman ki Asha bullshit please , diplomatic relations should end or atleast degraded

US told Modi to do so, he will do it just to show it and then start firing on LOC and abandon it again. Its the same Saas Bahu Kahani

 

[Rusty]

haha all the time Pakistan started the war. Even in 1971, they attacked our forward base.

Pakistan only started 65. And pakistan only ever invaded disputed Kashmir, which is not as big a deal as invading mainland.

India on the other hand went straight for mainland pakistan every time.

Even in 71 pakistan did a pre-emptive strike, which is defensive in nature.

Of course low IQ Indians can never hope to understand the meaning of the words I just said. It's beyond them intellectually.

Vey smart... you mughals are so brave and smart ...wah !! Martial race !!

Mutuals are long gone.
You need to learn to accept that.