First racist political party founded in Turkey in 2018, Turks presented as ‘superior race’

[ValerioAurelius]

There are no such races as you wrote. In order to get different race out of one race, you need to put very strong isolation. Without any physical isolation, race members will keep reproducing between each other, which means DNA and genetic codes will keep trading between each other

Do they teach evolution and genetic isolation over there?

I hve a question.

Europeans, Asians and Native americans have up to 6% DNA from Neanderthalians and Denisovians. Africans lack this completly. We differ from africans by 6%.

Africans were mostly isolated through human history. Same counts for american natives and asians. There was zero contact between Europe and subsahara africa. So much, that we not just look different, our entire psychology is different.

To give you a conclusion. The Grizzly bear only differs from the Panda Bear by 4% of its DNA.

That said, nobel prize winner Watson, who discovered DNA says that human races exist of course. Its just not seen as political correct.

 

[OguzSenturk]

Europeans, Asians and Native americans have up to 6% DNA from Neanderthalians and Denisovians. Africans lack this completly. We differ from africans by 6%.

First of all, this is completely false statement. You didn't make your own genetic research. Second, there is no such thing as "African DNA" Wtf ahaha, not all "Africans" have same DNA distribution Same thing also valid for entire human race around the globe.

Africans were mostly isolated through human history. Same counts for american natives and asians. There was zero contact between Europe and subsahara africa.

Yes continents were diversed for a while, but obviously not long enough. You don't get a race in a second You need to keep one group of same race members isolated from other group of same race members long enough that their genital DNAs/reproduction organs get different, so even if isolation lifted they won't be able to reproduce and give healthy baby.

This is not valid for Homo Sapiens. All homo sapiens are able to reproduce with others, and give healthy babies that will also be able to reproduce correctly when they get old enough.

If genital organs did not change enough to prevent reproduction between isolated groups, DNA will keep exchanging as always and the possibility of new race will dissapear.

There was zero contact between Europe and subsahara africa. So much, that we not just look different, our entire psychology is different.

I am not sure which people you are talking about. You could find 2 homo sapiens from Europe and Africa that looks exactly same (btw, the outer look does not define "race" this thesis refuted during 1800s when people discovered two different race bugs that cannot reproduce with each other, but has exactly same look)

In order to make you understand Evolution easily;

get it? If that new "blue" race appears after the isolation, and if isolation caused the change of their reproduction system/organs, then it is a one different race because it will not be able to reproduce with green.

But if isolation was not long enough, and if blue is still able to reproduce with green easily, then there is no possibility to have one different race after isolation lifted.

 

[ValerioAurelius]

First of all, this is completely false statement. You didn't make your own genetic research. Second, there is no such thing as "African DNA" Wtf ahaha, not all "Africans" have same DNA distribution Same thing also valid for entire human race around the globe.


Yes continents were diversed for a while, but obviously not long enough. You don't get a race in a second You need to keep one group of same race members isolated from other group of same race members long enough that their genital DNAs/reproduction organs get different, so even if isolation lifted they won't be able to reproduce and give healthy baby.

This is not valid for Homo Sapiens. All homo sapiens are able to reproduce with others, and give healthy babies that will also be able to reproduce correctly when they get old enough.

If genital organs did not change enough to prevent reproduction between isolated groups, DNA will keep exchanging as always and the possibility of new race will dissapear.


I am not sure which people you are talking about. You could find 2 homo sapiens from Europe and Africa that looks exactly same (btw, the outer look does not define "race" this thesis refuted during 1800s when people discovered two different race bugs that cannot reproduce with each other, but has exactly same look)

In order to make you understand Evolution easily;

get it? If that new "blue" race appears after the isolation, and if isolation caused the change of their reproduction system/organs, then it is a one different race because it will not be able to reproduce with green.

But if isolation was not long enough, and if blue is still able to reproduce with green easily, then there is no possibility to have one different race after isolation lifted.

So you say Lions and Tigers are same race? They also reproduce.

Also race is not species. What you say is speciation and i agree we are one species. Race is something different than a species. Thanks for proving me right.

That said. this is me next to an exchange studend we had here in last Octobre.

Now you tell me we are same race? ha ha ha

We are not. He is african, i´m italian european. Our gene pool has nothing in common for the last 100.000 years. We are the same species but different race.

 

[OguzSenturk]

So you say Lions and Tigers are same race? They also reproduce.

I said "will give healthy baby which will also be able to reproduce after baby gets old enough" I am not sure if you are trolling or not. In Turkish, that reproduction is called "verimli döllenme", i don't know the exact english translation, but didn't need to since i wrote it's definition. It's basicly a reproduction where the new baby will also be able to reproduce those same race members

Same thing goes for horses and donkeys. Horses and Donkeys can reproduce and give baby "mule", and mules are not able to reproduce with horses/donkeys/or another mule. So, horses and donkeys are not same race. They cannot exchange their genetics with healthy generations of new babies.

lmao You two have more commonity than you and this guy

Or lets look at this african guy

You are not talking with sciencific facts, the fact is, there cannot be any other race if there is no isolation and race members can keep reproducing/exchanging DNA freely

 

[ValerioAurelius]

I said "will give healthy baby which will also be able to reproduce after baby gets old enough" I am not sure if you are trolling or not. In Turkish, that reproduction is called "verimli döllenme", i don't know the exact english translation, but didn't need to since i wrote it's definition. It's basicly a reproduction where the new baby will also be able to reproduce those same race members

Same thing goes for horses and donkeys. Horses and Donkeys can reproduce and give baby "mule", and mules are not able to reproduce with horses/donkeys/or another mule. So, horses and donkeys are not same race. They cannot exchange their genetics with healthy generations of new babies.



lmao You two have more commonity than you and this guy

Or lets look at this african guy

You are not talking with sciencific facts, the fact is, there cannot be any other race if there is no isolation and race members can keep reproducing/exchanging DNA freely

Again you mix species and race.

A german shepherd and a dalmatian dog are same species but different race. Tehy create healthy babies who can also reproduce.

So answer me, you say dog races dont exist? Yes or no?

Also Elon Musk is a European living in Africa. He has zero subsahara ancestor in his family.

 

[OguzSenturk]

A german shepherd and a dalmatian dog are same species but different race.

They are not "races", but "breeds"

Again you mix species and race.

In taxonomic genetic classification, there is no such term as "race". Race is a term being used by regular human being that does not know much about biology, to define species. In taxonomic genetic classification, species is the smallest term to define last group of the closest relatives of one living organism and there is no more classes, as long as that species are able to exchange genetics freely with it's species.

Also Elon Musk is a European living in Africa.

There is no such thing as "European DNA" or "African DNA". He just got his nose DNA from somewhere, his eye DNA from somewhere, his hair DNA from somewhere, his heigh DNA from somewhere, his ear DNA from somewhere etc. He is just one homo sapiens with mixed genetics like all other homo sapiens.

 

[ValerioAurelius]

They are not "races", but "breeds"


In taxonomic genetic classification, there is no such term as "race". Race is a term being used by regular human being that does not know much about biology, to define species. In taxonomic genetic classification, species is the smallest term to define last group of the closest relatives of one living organism and there is no more classes, as long as that species are able to exchange genetics freely with it's species.


There is no such thing as "European DNA" or "African DNA". He just got his nose DNA from somewhere, his eye DNA from somewhere, his hair DNA from somewhere, his heigh DNA from somewhere, his ear DNA from somewhere etc. He is just one homo sapiens with mixed genetics like all other homo sapiens.

In Italian we se race as what you say breed in english. And species is the upper category. So by our standard, various human races exist because they fit exactly to this "breed" category.

Of course there is european DNA. Otherwise you could not check if a human comes from here, which you can. When you take DNA and check it, you can say, thats a european.

 

[HannibalBarca]

Race, Ethnicity... is only CONCEPTS... for categorize humans...into groups... Therefore HAS NO genetical validity...

Words have meanings... therefore the use of "Breed" and "Race" are not related..;and shouldn't be used to mean the other...

Period...

Humans is only humans... HOMO Sapiens... Period...

Period,Period and Period...

ps: Last word... see what Ignorance bring us... See... Only problems... and the Ignorant will always praise or make escuse of his weakness... Wait and see...

 

[OguzSenturk]

In Italian we se race as what you say breed in english. And species is the upper category. So by our standard, various human races exist because they fit exactly to this "breed" category.

Do you know what does "breeding" mean? If you use "race" term to define "breed", you need to have regular breeding in entire Europe in order to have one "European breed" lmao. That is ridiculous

You can just leave your apartment, go to street, and look around. Just check the young people with their lovers, do they look exactly same? There is no "power" above homo sapiens to enforce "breeding" over us That is why breeding is impossible within humans as humans do over dogs/cats.

 

[Desert Fox]

Exactly.

Scientifically there is only one human race to still exist, which is Homo Sapien.

Our competitors (such as the Neanderthals i.e. Homo sapiens neanderthalensis, and Homo erectus) have long since died out.

Chinese and other East Asians are infact the most racist and ethno-centric, second only to Jews of course.

This is why East Asian countries have such tight immigration and citizenship policies toward third world countries.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...ism-over-photos-pairing-africans-with-animals

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[HannibalBarca]

Chinese and other East Asians are infact the most racist and ethno-centric, second only to Jews of course.

This is why East Asian countries have such tight immigration and citizenship policies toward third world countries.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...ism-over-photos-pairing-africans-with-animals

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It' smostly to make up to their Colonialist history... since they can't pick on their past Masters..; they will jump on the weak...
Ignorance and Arrogance 101... coupled with Stupidity...

That's why when they jump into conversation as being "Superior" or "Better" to their rivals or enemies... I always pity them...

 

[Desert Fox]

It' smostly to make up to their Colonialist history... since they can't pick on their past Masters..; they will jump on the weak...
Ignorance and Arrogance 101... coupled with Stupidity...

That's why when they jump into conversation as being "superior" to their rivals or enemy..; i always pity them...

The Chinese are destroying Africa by stealing all of the resources and raw materials while dumping masses of cheap goods. The new face of colonialism.

https://www.voanews.com/a/chinese-overfishing-threatens-west-african-economies/3947764.html

@Nilgiri @Psychic @Gomig-21 @Hamartia Antidote

 

[HannibalBarca]

The Chinese are destroying Africa by stealing all of the resources and raw materials while dumping masses of cheap goods. The new face of colonialism.

@Nilgiri @Psychic @Gomig-21 @Hamartia Antidote

They are using the African workers...worst than slaves...
And the Paradox... it's their answer to that treatment... "We are bringing them Civilisation"... Isn't it familiar... Doing what they hated and critized for so long when it was done to themselfs until recently... Even right now... they will give you escuses... for their behavior...

In theEnd..; the Wheel turn... anyone will get their share of "Boomrang" one day or another...

 

[ValerioAurelius]

Do you know what does "breeding" mean? If you use "race" term to define "breed", you need to have regular breeding in entire Europe in order to have one "European breed" lmao. That is ridiculous

You can just leave your apartment, go to street, and look around. Just check the young people with their lovers, do they look exactly same? There is no "power" above homo sapiens to enforce "breeding" over us That is why breeding is impossible within humans as humans do over dogs/cats.

Yes, we actually have all the same phenotype here.

The power to force breeding on us is the mediterranean and sahara who made it impossible to mix.

 

[ValerioAurelius]

They are using the African workers...worst than slaves...
And the Paradox... it's their answer to that treatment... "We are bringing them Civilisation"... Isn't it familiar... Doing what they hated and critized for so long when it was done to themselfs until recently... Even right now... they will give you escuses... for their behavior...

In theEnd..; the Wheel turn... anyone will get their share of "Boomrang" one day or another...

Why is africa always on the recieving end?