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First P-3C fly today after recoverd from mehran base attack damage

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as we failed to protect them lolz

& you failed to realize through which situations Pakistan is going, Pakistan is protecting far important and essential strategic assets. Criticism should be with logic.
 
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& you failed to realize through which situations Pakistan is going, Pakistan is protecting far important and essential strategic assets. Criticism should be with logic.

......politicians are important assets! lol
i know what you mean, but by judging from the current situation military/police are only protecting politicians....specially the ones who are readu to sell the country.

anywayy on topic how many orions do we CURRENTLY have IN SERVICE!?
 
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do china have maritime surveillance aircraft like P-3 Orion please tell me and i am sure Chinese brothers have so why don,t we go for that:undecided:

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Off course they do---don't you remeber the P3C that had a mid air collision with the chinese fighter aircraft and the damaged P3C had to land in main land china----and the chinese took the plane apart and sent it back in crates except for the fuselage which came in an illyushin to the u s.
 
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Yun-8X Maritime Patrol Aircraft
Y-8X MPA

The Y-8 maritime patrol aircraft (MPA) is the land-based maritime patrol and anti-submarine warfare aircraft based on the Shaanxi Aircraft Industry Corporation Y-8 turboprop transport. A small number of the aircraft has been operational in the PLA Naval Aviation Corps since the mid-1980s. This was the first special purpose variant of the Y-8 military transport aircraft being developed.

In 1983, Shaanxi Aircraft Company (now Shaanxi Aircraft Industry Corporation) was requested to develop a special purpose aircraft on the basis of its Y-8 turboprop transport aircraft (Chinese licensed copy of the Soviet/Russian An-12 Cub) that can perform long-range maritime patrol, reconnaissance, and search and rescue (SAR) missions. The development task was officially assigned to Shaanxi in October 1983, with the target set to deliver the first plane to the PLANAF in 1984. The design proposal by Shaanxi was approved in November 1983.

The Y-8MPA is based on the airframe of the basic variant Y-8 transport aircraft, but fitted with upgraded avionics and various mission equipment for long-range maritime flight. The aircraft is equipped with search radar, omega navigation system, self-defence electronic countermeasures (ECM) suite, optical/infrared cameras, sonobuoys, and sonar receiver. The rear cargo door was removed and replaced by a large mission equipment window for sonobuoys racks and cameras. The rear turret was also removed and replaced by the sonar operator seat.

Shaanxi achieved to finish the development in less than a year, issuing 11,000 pages of blue prints and conducting over 20 tests. The first Y-8MPA was delivered to the PLA Navy in late 1984, and the aircraft received national design certificate in 1985. A Y-8MPA plane conducted five reconnaissance missions to the Xisha (Paracel), Zhongsha, and Nansha (Spratly) Islands in the South China Sea between March and June 1986, covering a total journey of 17,000km. The aircraft obtained a large amount of aerial photos of these islands, which were regarded as highly valuable to support the PLA’s operation in the region later.

Since the late 1990s, Y-8MPA aircraft of the PLA Naval Aviation Corps have been frequently spotted operating in the East China Sea region, chasing foreign warships and flying near foreign airspace. Some of these planes are believed to be fitted with special mission equipment for electronic and signal intelligence (ELINT/SIGINT) missions. Both South Korea Air Force and Japan Air Self-Defence Force have sent fighter jets to intercept these Y-8MPA planes in the past to stop them flying too close to their airspace.

Mission Equipment

The Y-8MPA has been extensively upgraded with improved avionics and mission equipment. The aircraft is equipped with Litton (now part of Northrop Grumman) APSO-504(V)3 surface search radar accommodated in the under-chin radome. The aircraft is also upgraded with improved radio, inertial navigation system (INS), Omega global navigation system.

Mission equipments include: infrared submarine detecting set, medium-/high-altitude optical camera, low-altitude optical camera, infrared camera, sonobuoys, sonar receiver, UHF radio marker beacon receiver, and five-man/single-man life boats. The aircraft has been added with an additional seat for the radar operator, and the original tail cannon turret on the Y-8 was removed and replaced by the sonar operator cabin.

Additionally the aircraft is also fitted with self-defence electronic countermeasures (ECM) suite consisting of all-aspect radar warning receiver (RWR) and chaff/flare dispenser.

Specifications

Flight crew: 5
Mission crew: 2~4
Wingspan: 38.0m
Length: 34.02m
Height: 11.6m
Empty weight: 35,488kg
Normal take-off weight: 54,000kg
Maximum take-off weight: 61,000kg
Cruising speed: 550km/h
Maximum speed: 662km/h
Service ceiling: 10,400m
Max climb rate: 10m/s (sea level)
Range: Ferry range 5,620km
Flight endurance: 10.5 hours
Runway: Take-off 1,270m; landing 1,050m

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based on 'old' soviet tech like IL-38's (i think or TU-142)
 
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......politicians are important assets! lol
i know what you mean, but by judging from the current situation military/police are only protecting politicians....specially the ones who are readu to sell the country.

anywayy on topic how many orions do we CURRENTLY have IN SERVICE!?

ok for the last time

3 were delivered in the early 90's - were grounded then upgraded after 911. 1 was lost - 2 survived and in service.
8 were contracted under EDA scheme - 7 to be upgraded, 1 for spares. 3 were delivered after upgrade. 2 were lost.

currently 3 are operational
4 are still in US under upgrade

total 7 after they are delivered by 2012.
PN has activated their 2 Atlantique ASW platforms in the interim.

there is no discussion (as yet) on US replacing the 3 attrition/terror losses.
 
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Still a huge facepalm to come to know that some of these planes were destroyed by infiltrators.

I can only hope the people responsible for safeguarding the base and these planes have learned that attacks can come from every corner and now are even more prepared then ever.

Still I scratch my head and wonder how this could've happened. As news like this does us no good, neither helps the self esteem of the army and soldiers in general.

Edit: It's good news that the birds have been restored and I think this is what we should focus on rather than spark a new debate about the attack on the Mehran base.
 
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based on 'old' soviet tech like IL-38's (i think or TU-142)

sorry sir but whats wrong in buying some of these even if they are based on old soviet tech. PAF is buying them for ZDK03 so why not PN for MPA and ASW. Chinese have developed their tech and i think it is more reliable than P3C which we had to ground because of sanctions. Even Saab2000MPA or Cn235 MPA is an option.
 
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sorry sir but whats wrong in buying some of these even if they are based on old soviet tech. PAF is buying them for ZDK03 so why not PN for MPA and ASW. Chinese have developed their tech and i think it is more reliable than P3C which we had to ground because of sanctions. Even Saab2000MPA or Cn235 MPA is an option.

i just made a comment. i was not evaluating the pro's and con's. why is india replacing these types in their inventory. the word 'old' and 'out-dated' comes to mind!. the P3C's are at the moment the 'best' technology available to PN.
 
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Still a huge facepalm to come to know that some of these planes were destroyed by infiltrators.

I can only hope the people responsible for safeguarding the base and these planes have learned that attacks can come from every corner and now are even more prepared then ever.

Still I scratch my head and wonder how this could've happened. As news like this does us no good, neither helps the self esteem of the army and soldiers in general.

Edit: It's good news that the birds have been restored and I think this is what we should focus on rather than spark a new debate about the attack on the Mehran base.

Another conspiracy theory in the works my friend -- don't we see the writing on the wall or as a nation can not read period!!!! GHQ, NHQ, Parade Lane, Mumbai Hotel, Marriot, Mehran etc...... When do we rest our conspiracy theories and face up to the facts or not facing up to the facts is an attempt to create confusion amongst the masses and buy time????
 
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as i ve stated before, only Gray old P-3c survived the attack.
Now two days ago i ve seen this bird landing at Faisal base. Good to see him back. :tup:
 
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Still a huge facepalm to come to know that some of these planes were destroyed by infiltrators.

I can only hope the people responsible for safeguarding the base and these planes have learned that attacks can come from every corner and now are even more prepared then ever.

Still I scratch my head and wonder how this could've happened. As news like this does us no good, neither helps the self esteem of the army and soldiers in general.

Edit: It's good news that the birds have been restored and I think this is what we should focus on rather than spark a new debate about the attack on the Mehran base.

the country is at war, within and without - we dont seem to get the message
 
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we can get Yun-8X Maritime Patrol Aircraft at 2 year lease
after 2 years our more p-3orions will be come
 
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Another conspiracy theory in the works my friend -- don't we see the writing on the wall or as a nation can not read period!!!! GHQ, NHQ, Parade Lane, Mumbai Hotel, Marriot, Mehran etc...... When do we rest our conspiracy theories and face up to the facts or not facing up to the facts is an attempt to create confusion amongst the masses and buy time????

Ask those who created this mess.
 
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