First high speed train on Delhi-Agra section in November 2014

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*east-west DFC
*north-south DFC
*east costal DFC
*south-west DFC &
Banglore-chennai DFC.

Feasibility study for those sectors is already underway. Delhi-Chennai, Kharagpur-Vizag and Chennai Goa are being explored for additional DFCs. However a lot would depend on project execution of Eastern and Western DFC. It would be interesting to note that IR is also bringing in new technologies for these DFC like High Horse Power Elelctric locos (12,000 HP Bo-Bo+Bo-Bo configuration), 6000 HP HHP diesel Loco (Christened WDG 6), 7.8 m high OHE (for double stacked container movement) and upto 32 ton axle loading tracks.

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Feasibility study for those sectors is already underway. Delhi-Chennai, Kharagpur-Vizag and Chennai Goa are being explored for additional DFCs.

yeah and that is what would form south-nort ,east-west ,etc. DFC. But i wish they do it at a faster rate.because the longer it takes the higher would be the cost and most imp we would be loosing valuable time.

However a lot would depend on project execution of Eastern and Western DFC.

It would indeed,a slower execution of these projects would make JICA & WB think again,because WDFC alone would cost 70K crs.

It would be interesting to note that IR is also bringing in new technologies for these DFC like High Horse Power Elelctric locos (12,000 HP Bo-Bo+Bo-Bo configuration), 6000 HP HHP diesel Loco (Christened WDG 6), 7.8 m high OHE (for double stacked container movement) and upto 32 ton axle loading tracks.

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32.5 tons per axel when the limits are at 40tons per axel. Though i read it somewhere that only electric locos would be used for WDFC ,and that they would be at first imported from japan ,so would the later once be built in India? ,because tht sounds more feasible to me
I read tht disel once would not be used,or has they changed the plan?and that this would be also the first double-triple stacked container trains on the planet earth

 

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I know,what i meant was i didn't see any automated machines ,maybe i would have missed it.
but thanks for that pics from another angel looks beautiful !

Thats great ,though i havent seen much pics of progress on DFC.but i do expect it to be completed at a faster rate as there are another 4-5 such frieght corridors planned or say wiating for approval

you can check the gallery Photogallery

 

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hough i read it somewhere that only electric locos would be used for WDFC ,and that they would be at first imported from japan ,so would the later once be built in India? ,because tht sounds more feasible to me

There are plans to produce 800 odd HHP electric locos at Madhepura (Bihar). As of now Siemens, Alsthom and Bombardier are in fray. at 12,000 HP they will be amongst the most powerful locos anywhere.

I read tht disel once would not be used,or has they changed the plan?

Eastern DFC may not be electrified initially and hence the Diesel Traction. WDG 6 at 6000 HP are proposed to be used. IR in any case is looking for HHP Diesels. Here is a report on such a behemoth.

32.5 tons per axel when the limits are at 40tons per axel.

as of now the max limit on tracks is about 25 tons/axle and hence 35 t/a would be a quantum jump.

and that this would be also the first double-triple stacked container trains on the planet earth

No not really, the practice is quite common in US and France.

Even in India, Double stack trains are operating from Pipvav port (in Gujarat).

However on WDFC, this will the first time that Double Stack container trains will be used under OHE wires. About 2 years back, IR conducted a trial with two Vizag based WAG 7 locos with high reach pantographs for this purpose successfully.

 

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There are plans to produce 800 odd HHP electric locos at Madhepura (Bihar). As of now Siemens, Alsthom and Bombardier are in fray. at 12,000 HP they will be amongst the most powerful locos anywhere.

That's almost 2 times of WAG9 ! I guess alstom would win it with its HDXclass ,especially 2,2B,2F . I dont know what bombraider has got i mean all i could come across was ''Iore'' @7300hp with TRAXX max @7500hp. For sismens its Amtrak cities ,vectron which are @8600 max. I wonder bombraide & sismens have any other locmotive on par with HDX class.

Eastern DFC may not be electrified initially and hence the Diesel Traction. WDG 6 at 6000 HP are proposed to be used. IR in any case is looking for HHP Diesels. Here is a report on such a behemoth.

That makes sense. But still it would be better to electrify the line if they building it all up from scratch.

However on WDFC, this will the first time that Double Stack container trains will be used under OHE wires. About 2 years back, IR conducted a trial with two Vizag based WAG 7 locos with high reach pantographs for this purpose successfully.

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I didn't knew about this. So for double stack container movement we have 7.8m high OHE ,any report on how high would it be for triple stacked container movement on DFC's ,which would be run on some routes,as per reports.

 

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That's almost 2 times of WAG9 ! I

Yes that will be quite a beast.

I guess alstom would win it with its HDXclass ,especially 2,2B,2F . I dont know what bombraider has got i mean all i could come across was ''Iore'' @7300hp with TRAXX max @7500hp. For sismens its Amtrak cities ,vectron which are @8600 max. I wonder bombraide & sismens have any other locmotive on par with HDX class.

Bombardier may hold the aces, it has a great experience with HHP locos like Swedish IORE as you mentioned. btw IORE has lot in common to our own WAG 9.

I wonder bombraide & sismens have any other locmotive on par with HDX class.

Vectron is a very versatile machine and could prove to be a dark horse in the race.

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It is important to point out here that the loco in focus aren't a single unit but permanently MUed twin units (like in case of IORE, Co-Co+Co-Co), so the existing models can prove sufficient for the requirement as net output required in only 6,000 HP each.
Also IR is dabbling with a concept of single unit 9,000 HP unit to be produced at Dankuni (WB)
http://www.ireeindia.org/seminar2013/Newsletter-sep-13.pdf

That makes sense. But still it would be better to electrify the line if they building it all up from scratch.

Yes eventually they may electrify the section, but at present cost and budgets, they wish to go for Diesel traction, not a bad choice considering in US most heavy traffic moves on Diesel.

I didn't knew about this. So for double stack container movement we have 7.8m high OHE ,any report on how high would it be for triple stacked container movement on DFC's ,which would be run on some routes,as per reports.

At this point of time DFC is designed for double stacking only, but further stacking could be possible with recessed flatcar wagons.

 

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It is important to point out here that the loco in focus aren't a single unit but permanently MUed twin units (like in case of IORE, Co-Co+Co-Co), so the existing models can prove sufficient for the requirement as net output required in only 6,000 HP each.

I mentioned HDX class cos it was a 12000HP behemoth but its for a single. Yeah others were around 8600hp per unit. In a multiple unit configration they would be easily be around 12K hp. But i guess we can even use WAH9 ,if requirment is for 12K hp with multiple units.

Also IR is dabbling with a concept of single unit 9,000 HP unit to be produced at Dankuni (WB)
http://www.ireeindia.org/seminar2013/Newsletter-sep-13.pdf

didn't knew about this project. Its music to my ears.will research more about this now.

At this point of time DFC is designed for double stacking only, but further stacking could be possible with recessed flatcar wagons.

Hmm,i read it on wiki that they would be using double & triple stacked containers on wDFC. I guess we hv to wait untill projects completion to know wt would be plying on those routes. Btw flatcar wagons look boring

 

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didn't knew about this project. Its music to my ears.will research more about this now.

Specifications for 7,000 KW (~9400 HP IGBT locomotive)
http://www.dfccil.gov.in/upload/1375709622748.pdf

http://elocos.railnet.gov.in/study_material/HHP_presentation(HHConference)_4_Feb_13.ppsx

HDX class cos it was a 12000HP behemoth but its for a single

actually it is not! It is a combination of two Bo-Bo unit coupled permanently (MUed).

& i tell you this, because owing to restriction of loading and physical size (mostly the length), it is not possible to accommodate very large size transformers and IGBT drives for very high rating power electricals.
Even the other Chinese Godzilla (Siemens DJ 1) is also a Bo-B0+B0-Bo configuration loco, similar to what IR is looking for.

& so is the Big Daddy LKAB IORE (at 14,200 HP) but with Co-Co+Co-Co