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Fire on INS Matanga

Yeah ISI did it, ooooh. Come on man, it's a mishap by the workers. Plenty of those happening though. Hmmmm

Mr. Informant has passed the verdict, somebody notify this to the govt so they could save on the costs involved in determining the plausible clauses that'd come out of the court of inquiry that has been set up.
 
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Mr. Informant has passed the verdict, somebody notify this to the govt so they could save on the costs involved in determining the plausible clauses that'd come out of the court of inquiry that has been set up.

Wut?
 
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Back to back incidences of fire???
Nope.
Its beyond my comprehension.

How did ISI infiltrate 7 times man? Man! No man!

And you're saying RAW is incompetent to as not to be able to locate a spy?

The issue is the severe lack of checks and balances on the navy personnel.
 
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How did ISI infiltrate 7 times man? Man! No man!

And you're saying RAW is incompetent to as not to be able to locate a spy?

The issue is the severe lack of checks and balances on the navy personnel.

Yes may be one or 2 incidents.Rest appear to be sabotage cases.
 
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You're off the deep end.

I am sure our Navy doesnt believe in brinkmanship...it definitely doesnt give the sense of triumphalism.

@Informant

In three of the cases the ships were very new. Talwar which hit a fishing boat is one of our latest acquisitions from Russia. Tarkash which collided with the jetty in Mumbai is a frontline destroyer and Airawat which went aground in Visakhapatnam port is hardly four years old. So material obsolescence did not lead to these mishaps. A minesweeper caught fire whilst under refit and this is also not old age related. Sindhuraksha which sank in Mumbai naval dockyard after an explosion is one of our later submarines and had just received a mid-life refit and modernisation in Russia.
All those familiar with this process know of the extensive and thorough work that is done during this period to give the vessel effective operational value for the next decade and more.

Another submarine Sindhughosh touched bottom while leaving the dockyard in Mumbai ...It is true that the naval harbour had not been dredged for some time some alleged that this was the reason the vessel met with the mishap ...but it was during high tide, when there is sufficient depth of water, that the submarine met with the accident and not during the period when insufficient depth could be the factor.
Finally Sindhuratna's accident has to be seen in the context that she had just come out of repairs. The vessel cleared the mandatory period of harbour work-up under the scrutiny of the Submarine Force Commander of the Western Naval Command and only then was it cleared for the next phase of efficiency tests at sea for which this Commander himself and his team were on board.Media reports indicated that this submarine's battery had outlived its useful life which was preposterous as the Navy would never have cleared the vessel for operational and dived work-up at sea if this had been the case. It has now emerged that this report was entirely incorrect. In any event the fire did not start in the battery pit but through short circuit of cables in the crew compartment. Interestingly submarines of this type are in frontline operational service in two very credible navies those of Russia and China along with some others.
 
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I am sure our Navy doesnt believe in brinkmanship...it definitely doesnt give the sense of triumphalism.

@Informant

In three of the cases the ships were very new. Talwar which hit a fishing boat is one of our latest acquisitions from Russia. Tarkash which collided with the jetty in Mumbai is a frontline destroyer and Airawat which went aground in Visakhapatnam port is hardly four years old. So material obsolescence did not lead to these mishaps. A minesweeper caught fire whilst under refit and this is also not old age related. Sindhuraksha which sank in Mumbai naval dockyard after an explosion is one of our later submarines and had just received a mid-life refit and modernisation in Russia.
All those familiar with this process know of the extensive and thorough work that is done during this period to give the vessel effective operational value for the next decade and more.

Another submarine Sindhughosh touched bottom while leaving the dockyard in Mumbai ...It is true that the naval harbour had not been dredged for some time some alleged that this was the reason the vessel met with the mishap ...but it was during high tide, when there is sufficient depth of water, that the submarine met with the accident and not during the period when insufficient depth could be the factor.
Finally Sindhuratna's accident has to be seen in the context that she had just come out of repairs. The vessel cleared the mandatory period of harbour work-up under the scrutiny of the Submarine Force Commander of the Western Naval Command and only then was it cleared for the next phase of efficiency tests at sea for which this Commander himself and his team were on board.Media reports indicated that this submarine's battery had outlived its useful life which was preposterous as the Navy would never have cleared the vessel for operational and dived work-up at sea if this had been the case. It has now emerged that this report was entirely incorrect. In any event the fire did not start in the battery pit but through short circuit of cables in the crew compartment. Interestingly submarines of this type are in frontline operational service in two very credible navies those of Russia and China along with some others.

This just points to gross mismanagement/incompetency of the crew. It's even more embarrassing to insinuate that ISI is behind it. ISI na hogaya jinn hogaya. I do not believe your Navy is that blind to not find a mole after so many incidents.

I now realize people on both sides of the border are the same. Conspiracy theories galore.
 
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This just points to gross mismanagement/incompetency of the crew. It's even more embarrassing to insinuate that ISI is behind it. ISI na hogaya jinn hogaya. I do not believe your Navy is that blind to not find a mole after so many incidents.
Okay lets not bring ISI into picture.Then there's an alternate theory.
That these ships and subs were sabotaged so that it could lead to new purchases.
What say??
I know I took you on rollercoaster ride with my ISI theory.
FYI: you got trolled!!!:devil:


Informant said:
I now realize people on both sides of the border are the same
Ohhh you tubelight!
This is what I have been telling you since morning that ppl on both sides of the border are same...INDIANS!!!
:p:
 
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Okay lets not bring ISI in picture.Then there's an alternate theory.
That these ships and subs were sabotaged so that it could lead to new purchases.
What say??
I know I took you on rollercoaster ride with my ISI theory.
FYI: you got trolled!!!:devil:

Not really man, but some of you are thinking that. IMHO self sabotage. IN needs new subs. So they doing it on purpose.

Ohhh you tubelight!
This is what I have been telling you since morning that ppl on both sides of the border are same...INDIANS!!!
:p:

Please woman. You need a shrink, STAT!
 
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Not really man, but some of you are thinking that. IMHO self sabotage. IN needs new subs. So they doing it on purpose.
Again not sure if it can be bracketed as self sabotage.


Informant said:
Please woman. You need a shrink, STAT!
Look who is talking :coffee:

Somehow you've forgotten your roots.And you need a shrink, pronto!:p:
 
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Again not sure if it can be bracketed as self sabotage.



Look who is talking :coffee:

Somehow you've forgotten your roots.And you need a shrink, pronto!:p:

Yendians Navy want the shiny toys so no big deal :woot:

My roots are in Pak. :taz:
 
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Yendians Navy want the shiny toys so no big deal :woot:
8-)

Bad spellings.It is "Indians".

Frankly I have no idea why even the ministry is blamed.From the period 1986 to 2014 our country's defence budget has increased 17 times from Rs 13000 cr to Rs 2.2 lakh cr ...in this same period the Navy's allocation has increased 38 times from Rs 1000 cr to about Rs 38000 cr.One wishes the jump was even greater given the increasingly maritime nature of future threats, but no sensible government can overlook issues on the land borders where we face two potentially hostile neighbours or the long land borders that we share with them. The only way of giving the Navy more money was either to cut the shares of the Army and Air Force...or to increase the defence allocation by further reducing the already poor outlays made for education, health and welfare of people and other developmental projects or to tax more.
All these are not easy choices to make...

Informant said:
My roots are in Pak. :taz:
And Paksitan is a part of India or was a part of India (hardly matters).
Ergo your roots are in India.:p:
 
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Yendians Navy want the shiny toys so no big deal :woot:

My roots are in Pak. :taz:
lol,,...yes Indian navy want those toys and now they have it......Napak navy also want them,,,,but cant have it....and its the biggest deal........:lol:
 
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lol,,...yes Indian navy want those toys and now they have it......Napak navy also want them,,,,but cant have it........:lol:

Oh man Napak, real genius. Line mardi yaar.......NOT.
Retard.

8-)

Bad spellings.It is "Indians".

And Paksitan is a part of India or was a part of India (hardly matters).
Ergo your roots are in India.:p:

My dada dadi are buried in Yendia. Khush that'll keep you happy for a while.
 
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